Innovatehno.eu???????????????????

[bistander]

Does it work

I just sent some emails to the innovate team and got a automated response to use another email address info@innovatehno.eu
If They do not come thru at a reasonable time with a reasonable response I am willing to spill some beans to the group here if some of you guys are willing to work together.I know things about this unit and I might have enough info so that we can back engineer it and replicate it.Bottom line it has to be all open sourced.Thats the only way Ill do this.Everything out in the open.That makes it harder for anyone to dissappear or get strong armed or what ever.And havong it spread over several countries is an advantage for Us.So whos on boardif I decide to go this way?Its going to be all up to the innovatehno guys response or lack of.

Hi Knownothing,

It sounds like you believe this free energy machine works. Does it work as they claimed last month before they disappeared? Can you provide proof of functionality or a convincing demonstration?

That would get me interested enough to participate.

Regards,

bi

[IKNOWNOTHING]

the machine

I know some of the history of the device and some key things to steer the progress in the right direction.When I tell you the history then you will understand all this.My expertise is not electronics but more mechanical but I have a decent understanding of electronics but what will be needed is other input from other peoples experiences of life.Like I said earlier it doesnt matter if the innovate team got it to work or not but the machine when originally designed and by who is what will get you going.It worked at the time of design from my research of the history based on its application.Some of this might not make sense to you right now but Ill give Innovate about a week and then thats it.Some guys from the overunity group are working on something that is on the right track more or less but I will have to see how we can communicate all on one site and not spread over three or four.Also when we have this thing figured out then the next step is the motor for vehicles which is based on this machine.It requires no charging ,no batteries,drive when you want as far as you want,as fast as you want(with in reason).Anyways enough for now and see who else is interested.Financially I am not in a very good situation right now so we will have to see who is and there is another avenue for gathering more info and that is the location of one of the units but its not in North America but in Europe.Its one of the originals.So if anyone can afford to do a bit of travel and looking I have a big clue there.

[citfta]

I agree with bistander on this. If I can see some convincing evidence of the possibility of this working I am willing to help. We both have good backgrounds in electronics. I also have some contacts in Europe and know others who have other contacts. I also have a milling machine and small lathe. So I will be waiting until you feel it is time to share.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[IKNOWNOTHING]

getting ready to start the project

OK so far so good at least progress in some areas.I am trying to get a good diversified team together here because I beileve we can crack this thing but we will need to focus and no petty bickering.I am still working on the biggest lead i have and I figure this sunday Ill post what Ive got and some of the key people Ive gotten in touch with it will be up to them to reveal themselves.I think if we could get Graham and the old German guy on overunity and Stephan and who ever else would be good.I dont have access for posting on one of the sites so if anyone here does and can pass the message along then that would be great.Its not so much the more the merrier but rather the better the quality the better the progress.So quality people would be good and we have some good ones.I understand from seeing one of the short vids that someone actually made it to the company and took pics.I think any and all pics we can post and decipher would also help alot.I already am talking to someone who has a few.2 things also that would be a big help is someone who really knows how to mine patents .i have information and so does someone else so that the parameters can be narrowed substantially on this search.I took a look at this from a different angle than most when I was researching so it brought up new material on an esoteric level which is what was needed.Should we leave the title to the post and continue under that or start a new post and title?Thoughts?

[IKNOWNOTHING]

The Project!!

Ok ,a few years ago i use to live in the city and 2 doors down from me lived an old man from Germany.He was one of the last survivors of the bombing of Dresden.He wouldnt talk to to many people and those who he did many didnt like his arrogance and stuff but I knew where he was coming from so I tolerated him and he me.
One of the things that always bothered me about the war was why would the allies bomb a city of basically old men,women and children and civilians and wounded soldiers.I couldnt see the advantage from any angle and especially military wise.Dresden was basically a hospital city where wounded were sent to recover and the rest of the men that could were off on the war somewhere else.
Anyways.we got to talking about all kinds of stuff when he mentioned about a guy named Herman Coler.At the time I didnt put 2 and 2 together so I didnt think much of it.years later i moved to where I am now and once I got internet and started researching it hit me Herman Coler is actuallY Hans Coler real name is Hermann Gustav Hans Coler.When I wanted to go back and talk to the old guy more I found out he had already died so i had to try to remember a lot of what he said
Germany was having a problem with energy and fuel because of allied bombings and stuff so they had all kinds of new and creative ways to over come that problem as it arose.Before the war there was some heavy research and prototype building of flying saucers and this I beleive because my grandfather was in the war(both actually the one and the other only the second war) and he told me about one place where they were building the saucers and what happened to the first 3 proto types.
Coler was behind one of the engines which was a type of electromagnetic version of his energy device.But thats not what this is what innovate has .If you research the British intelligence reports on Coler and his device,it mentions he had built another one in the 6KW range and he was using it to power his house.they(the Brits) claimed it was destroyed by a bombing.I beileve it was not and the unit was found by innovate and copied.
Denis told me they had around 15 people working on this thing and the most progress was when they found an old man who was a helper back in the war with the team who originally built it.The guy is in his 90s and it took awhile.I have been emailing Denis since end of last summer before he went public and gave him some ideas and suggestions along the way.
My interest was to get this technology into North America.I tried every way i can think of to approach it at every angle i could think of but these people are very stubborn and difficult to deal with.I gave him until today to email back and explain but they didnt come thru so here i am telling what I know so that we can try to replicate it.It has to be done open and the information distributed fast to the public when we figure it out because I think they are running into a lot of trouble over there in Croatia with harassment and threats and other things.No one will put this kind of money time and research into something like this for fraud.this has been going on for awhile to get this and other devices to work and market and they just dont have the experience and know how to deal with the big crooks and businesses that want to shut them down.My one grand father lived in Croatia for awhile so I know how these people can think on an average and stubborness is a weakness in this case .
This device was used by the Germans in their Uboats to extend the range of the underwater distances.the average sub back then was around 350 to 500 miles for underwater travel before having to surface for recharging the batteries and that didnt matter from what country they originated.My grandfather was telling me of the newer subs being able to dive off the coast of Germany and not having to resurface until Antarctica.If they had this device then it makes sense because the batteries would be charging while under water along the way.this would greatly extend the range.the last 100 or so subs made in Germany dissappeared and are unaccounted for by the allies.The Germans kept some of the most accurate records from any nation and all kinds of stuff. so we know these subs existed but not many know they were used for the escape of 1/4 million scientists,metaphysicalists,politicians,military people and others of very high caliber and use for their next settlement which was Neu Schabenland in Antarctica.The German government in 1938 and 1939 did the largest exploration in the world of Antarctica and yet it gets not mentioned at all in our history lessons in school for a reason.It takes an energy unit like this to be able to do anything in such a climate for any length of time if you dont have regular supplies of gas and oil coming to you.We are just now finding out some of the things going on in Antarctica and what the government has been covering up all these years.Admiral Byrd on a military mission disguised as a reconnisance mission as he called it went there and got his ass kicked.Of cource he was dealt with just like Patton when they discovered something the ruling bastards didnt want us to know.
Denis said they were able to get the bugs out of the device and make it reliable so I guess some of them saw dollar signs but when dealing with the devil( the system) how can you expect to win when he makes the rules and not you?
One of the things we talked about was an increase in production right away.he said it was around 20 units a mo nth and I told him that was a joke because i could sell 20 units in a day.He didnt beleive this until his website advertised it and he got swamped.So then we were talking about a warehouse of 20,000 square feet and production of over 1000 units a month to start.i told him this will go viral if it gets out and everything works as claimed.He also didnt beileve that until his web system crashed so maybe now he does.I told him it should be written up as a book so any one can follow it and that would sell so fast you couldnt push the button fast enough to send as an ebook.he didnt want to do that because he wanted full control of the quality and if any problems should arise then they could deal with it whereas the do it your selfer would be self responsoble which there is nothing wrong with that in my mind.You screw up then you should take the blame.
Ive narrowed down to 36 possible locations of the existance of Colers home machine and am waiting for emails back as they come in to eliminate and narrow down the search for this existing unit.
Denis also said that the patents for this device had run out and they didnt have any so anyone could build it.He was worried about this and in particular whats in the black box.I told him to seal it with resin or plastic to make it more difficult to tke apart which they liked that idea but I was still trying to get across to him that someone sooner or later was going to pull it apart and reverse engineer it and patent or build thier own and market it.he didnt believe it at first but then started to reallize from the number of inquiries coming from North America even though this thing is set up for Europe grid.Thats why the contract.
Then came the clincher.Glenn Candy from Nresearch spoke to Jakov/Jacob and everything he was not suppose to tell he blabbed on his web site right away and he was trying to advertise for distributerships as well.all he was really doing was making money on his web site and getting suckers to invest into his bitcon scam because like he always says.God has spoken to him.When I told Denis what he palns to do about it he said he has his lawyer looking into it.I asked him are you for real?a Croatian lawyer getting anywhere in the US?There wasnt going to be a dam thing they will be able to do about it and thats exactly what happened.
So back to the device.Coler was connnected to a guy Will von Unruh.i think unruh might be the real brains behind this and Coler being a navel military guy just oversaw the project and research.The Brits claim Unruh stole Robert Norrbys patents but I couldnt see from what i did find any thing similar and so there might still be something else out there.I think if we get some one on board who knows how to really patent mine and takes a bit of time to search we can really narrow down the expired ones and that would be a very good find.In the mean time I will post what info I receive on the search for the existing unit that they copied from.all for now back in a day or two.

[IKNOWNOTHING]

The Project!!

theres more but im tired and its late.I have been in contact with the Australian connection and he is onboard as well but Ill leave it up to him to say something.i know he can confirm some of what i have mentioned as well.So tomorrows another day.

[wantomake]

Still interested

I am still interested and wait to get started.

wantomake

[IKNOWNOTHING]

The Project!!

One of the things that Denis did tell me was they needed a battery to get it started but that was it so when I went on the overunity site and saw the pix of the little bicycle generator my best guess is that it is used to charge the battery.I have one of those units and they work pretty good but noisy.You hane to try to think like these guys and a lot of money I dont think they have so why not use the little gen as a charger for the battery.
I also do a bit of remote viewing.I knew I had some kind of ability for years but never really used it for anything practical other than finding things I lost the next day or 2.One sight I keep getting is a PMH but the only thing I can see is the U with the coils but no bar or metal across the bottom to make it a PMH unless there is another way of doing it.
One of the guys at overunity said that the thing was bolted down and he couldnt tell if a cable was running up one of the legs to power it.Could a field be tested from the leg if power was running thru it?I suggest that it was bolted down because of the possibility of theft.I know here anything that isnt bolted down gets stolen with in a few days from some of the locals.Bolting down makes it harder and takes longer to walk away with something.
another thing I didnt see is any magnets with the RVng but there is magnetic current.The balck box I always get a blank.Can see anything in there and I dont know why.The top of the U is being covered from a joining.I think the thing sticking out is a distraction.
Denis said all the parts to make this thing have been around for 50 years so that makes it a little simpler as to what can be used for the unit plus considering the time line of Willie and Hermann then a lot of stuff is a no go.
another thing Denis stressed is that there be enough room around the unit for it to draw the power from.If this is the case then they must have had rooms in the Uboats for this or maybe didnt need any batterys but just drew the power from the units to power the electric motors.
One thing I do keep seeing in the RVing is Colers other unit has something large missing and it moves.Its not in the patent because this second piece is what is really needed to make it work.Anyways need some one with more experince and time on the RVing because I can only do one thing at a time and that can take days and usually has to be just a yes and no question but it does work but in my case slow because I am mostly self taught.
So where the group participation in this?No heads getting together?No questions or suggestions or speculation?Maybe I should try again and get on the overunity site?

[bistander]

No answer first time, 2nd try

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So where the group participation in this?No heads getting together?No questions or suggestions or speculation?Maybe I should try again and get on the overunity site?

Hi Knownothing,

It sounds like you believe this free energy machine works. Does it work as they claimed last month before they disappeared? Can you provide proof of functionality or a convincing demonstration?

That would get me interested enough to participate.

Regards,

bi

[RAMSET]

Sir
I did make an invitation for you

over here

InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?

Chet K

[wantomake]

Technical parts

IKNOWNOTHING,
Did Denis give you any other basic parts or components other then the battery for starting? Is there a patent for this device? If it expired then the patent number. That would get more attention I think.

wantomake

[bistander]

Battery & generator?

Battery for starting? A bicycle generator for keeping it charged? WTF?

As I read from the company's website, the unit was installed by the company on the customer's property and guaranteed to run for 5 years providing all energy to the customer's home without fuel or any input of any kind.

Why does it need a starting battery? Doesn't it run continuously? Why turn it off? O.K. Maybe for reboot or other malfunction restart. But even then, why would you use a generator, let alone a bicycle generator, when you could use a simple electronic battery charger off the mains supply.

The talk of a starting battery and bike generator doesn't instill confidence to me.

bi

[IKNOWNOTHING]

Zero on the demonstration.I dont have a machine in posession but the machine we have to find is the one Denis said they copied from and I have narrowed it down to 36 locations so it will take time as I get replies in of a yes or no where it is.Now if I had some coin to afford to fly over to Europe and visit these locations I could probably have an answer in a week but I dont have the money so I have to make due with a slower researching process.I am going on what Ive found from researching which as you know is long time consuming work to get any results,and from what sources Ive talked to and from what sources make sense in its history.Even a con or fraud has an element of truth to it.Its the truth we have to find and how much of it has been smoke screened.If I had the whole thing or all of its doings and schematics do you think I would be on here trying to get a group of people together to figure out the unit?No Id be down in Panama or Costa Rica having a beer with Aaron and talking about things while me ebook sells on the unit.But instead I am here telling what I have found out and know and am hoping and knowing there are others who will come forward with more information on this device so we can fill the holes.Every one has a different way of looking at things and someone will see what has been missed or doesnt fit the puzzle like the comment below on the battery and bike gen.The bike gen is my speculation and Ive given my reasons why I havent heard any one come up with anything else yet.I will admit I could be wrong.My expertise is not in electronics but sometimes one cant see the forest for the trees and when someone sees things on a simpler platform then the clarity starts to come into it.The battery maybe is used to bring the disc up to speed which you could not do by hand.Didnt Thanes Hein have a magnetic motor requiring a certain rpm before it would run itself?or something like that?When i talked to Denis he said patents run out and the Oz connection said 2 patents 1940s so with 3 names already to search how hard can that be?Time consuming yes but we are getting closer.I am trying to find all my emails from Denis as he gave me some specs like weight and power and the same for the van motors.Im sure there are smoke screens on the unit because they know people will dissect the vids and pix.So the question is are we smart enough to figure this out with everyones input,clues,discussions,research etc?I believe there is enough talent on this site so that we can do it.

[IKNOWNOTHING]

the project

Ok so heres a start of what I see and correct me where im wrong or if im right .I see a possible form of a PMH with 2 maybe 3 pairs of coils 2 possibly for fine tuning and 2 maybe for bringing the voltage down to run thru a type of invertor where the plugs are in.The motor and disc,we know a spinning magnet can produce electricity but can a spinning leyden jar?i know a radial tire produces electricity on a car going down the road from the steel belts and no magnets are there.So if something with no magnets spinning or turning can produce electricity then it starts to look like a possibility for the leyden jar idea.So maybe they need to be a certain distance from the coils to charge them and if the charge is larger than the drain it can be dumped into the coils that bring the voltage down to the inverter.The motor doing the spinning might be just a regular motor or a different motor winding inside.I dont know if different windings will affect speed control to keep this thing from running away or not.Just some thinking on this thing.Anyone got anything else?

[IKNOWNOTHING]

The bicycle generator might be a decoy but also keep in mind Croatia isnt exactly a rich country with Radio Shacks around and more common than not those people use whats around first.My one grandfather was like that.Pretty smart at times to know things like that.I am kind of like that here miles from nowhere so you use what you have to make things work.Also the demo unit you see on the vids I doubt is exactly the unit you would get installed because there are a few things that look like they were put on just because they worked.
Has anyone checked into their health claim that was passed?there must be a government record for that.