Magnetic field of a bifilar pancake coil

[Bob Smith]

I found out, when I pulse a bifilar coil with back emf, it creates a resonance between the dielectric field and a third field.

This third field has no magnetic properties.

Normally the field is resonating between the dielectric field and the magnetic field.
Both these fields can be measured.

But when pulsed with back emf, I can only measure the voltage of the dielectric field. When this Sine wave is zero volts, the energy of the dielectric field is transformed into another field.

this video tells more about it:

https://youtu.be/X0axISEVNVk

Hello Evostars
I hope I am not repeating someone else's post. One of Eric Dollard's early Borderlands videos demonstrates longitudinal magneto-dielectric waves, and shows how resonance will separate dielectricity from magnetism at the same time. I've cued it up to just before the demonstration.
https://youtu.be/LwFWx5RkwDE?t=1265

So, according to this piece, it would seem that with resonance, you have voltage separated from amperage (magnetism) and the presence of the third field (longitudinal).

It would seem that Vladimir Utkin also talks about the same 3 fields in his PDFs that have been circulating around. I don't have time to post it right now, but if someone else doesn't, will get to it this week.
Bob

[evostars]

Hello evostars !


very nice video; i would like to see your explanation using some drawings if possible, because you talk about three fields and they interact with each other, i am also working with similar idea which is the extended Tesla bifilar coil, in short the ETBC, this coil show double frequency compared normal parallel LC with the same value of C and L ! this is to be expected because instead of 2 field ( magnetic And electric in ordinary parallel LC ) we have another radiant field .. i hope to see your explanation !

thanks in advance

I'dont really understand what you are asking, extended bifilar tesla coil? sound interesting. The capacity of a bifilar coil, can only be calculated from the measured inductance, and the resonant frequency. A larger capacitance (by series connection of the bifilar coil) lowers the resonant frequency.

I see the magnetic field as a double (water) vortex.
I think the third field, is like a ring vortex.
These 2 vortexes are much alike, there is only a difference of rotation.
the magnetic vortex, spins inward as a (phi) spiral. and then outwards again in the other "pole"vortex.
The ring vortex spins inwards, as a circle, containing its energy. Therefor it is not polarized.

The ring vortex, is created by a back emf.
This voltage is negative as related to the voltage that created the magnetic field where the back emf is created by.
This negative sign, might imply a different spin direction.

This is still speculation.

but the resonance induced by the back emf, has no magnetic properties...
so it must be a different field.

Maybe we cant directly observe the third field, but we can see the effect it has on the magnetic and dielectric fields (in resonance).

I ordered parts to further explore this.
I hope to use a enhancement mosfet, and trigger it with a back emf pulse.
This way I'm able to very shortly interrupt a strong current in a coil.
create stong back emf. etc...

[evostars]

Hello Evostars
I hope I am not repeating someone else's post. One of Eric Dollard's early Borderlands videos demonstrates longitudinal magneto-dielectric waves, and shows how resonance will separate dielectricity from magnetism at the same time. I've cued it up to just before the demonstration.
https://youtu.be/LwFWx5RkwDE?t=1265

So, according to this piece, it would seem that with resonance, you have voltage separated from amperage (magnetism) and the presence of the third field (longitudinal).

It would seem that Vladimir Utkin also talks about the same 3 fields in his PDFs that have been circulating around. I don't have time to post it right now, but if someone else doesn't, will get to it this week.
Bob

Thanks for sharing Bob!

this quote from Bedini:
"so again the term Free Energy is wrong as you must put some form of energy in to start the process of conversion and hope you get more out.
Just remember that the energy cannot be destroyed it can only be converted into another form"
I totally agree on. It takes energy to recycle it. and make use of its flow.

With resonance the fields are split indeed.
At one time the dielectric field is maximum. than it transforms into the other field, which becomes maximum. so the other field is zero.

We can see the magnetic field when the voltage is zero.
but now with the back EMF, when the resonant sine becomes zero, the magnetic field isnt there. so there must be a different field.
(i keep saying it, because its so important).

Vladimir Utkin? interesting! I'd love to see it.

I'm not often on the forums, as I feel it distracts me. So PM me if you want a quicker reply.

[evostars]

interesting:

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Utkin.htm

http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/VladimirUtkin2.htm

info about bifilar coils, fields, and back emf (instant energetic pulses)

[boguslaw]

How about simple explanation... ? The third field is ....you know what it is, it's around us

[Allen Burgess]

10 times the magnetic strength.

Comparing the magnetic fields of regular and 4 inch diameter bifilar coil
using a trifield meter. Significant improvement with bifilar where the application
does not need a pancake layout.

Both arduino signal generators set the same
the larger bifilar having over 10 times the strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwvA0ebhvfI

@Mikrovolt,

Excellent video; Mighty impressive results. Your number of video views are very modest compared to the importance of your content. This puzzles me?

Mikrovolt's video reinforces my demonstration video of locking 48 hex nuts with the same single spark and longer wire as 6. Imagine that! Mikrovolt generates 10 times the magnetic force with the same input pulse simply by adding copper wire to his larger bifilar coil.

[mikrovolt]

Thanks allen, hopefully we get closer and closer to understanding the phenomena.
Possibly the larger inside circumference relates also ?
I was wondering if accelerating charges might be part of the distance
inside was significant to the current to gauss with bifiliar pancake coils.
again having an uninhibited acceleration path for flow has always plagued long coils.
I tested one like the video long ago inspired by black chisel that used a coil that shape.

Looking at Tesla's objective regarding current. eliminating the condenser
in order to neutralize self inductance, to overcome the slow flow nature of conventional inductor coils.

Tesla, in his patent (512340):
In electric apparatus or systems in which alternating currents are employed the self-induction of the coils or conductors may, and, in fact, in many cases does operate disadvantageously by giving rise to false currents which often reduce what is known as the commercial efficiency of the apparatus composing the system or operate detrimentally in other respects.

The effects of self-induction, above referred to, are known to be neutralized by proportioning to a proper degree the capacity of the circuit with relation to the self-induction and frequency of the currents.

This has been accomplished heretofore by the use of condensers constructed and applied as separate instruments.

My present invention has for its object to avoid the employment of condensers which are expensive, cumbersome and difficult to maintain in perfect condition, and to so construct the coils themselves as to accomplish the same ultimate object.

I have found that in every coil there exists a certain relation between its self-induction and capacity that permits a current of given frequency and potential to pass through it with no other opposition than that of ohmic resistance,

or, in other words, as though it possessed no self-induction.

This is due to the mutual relations existing between the special character of the current and the self-induction and capacity of the coil, the latter quantity being just capable of neutralizing the self-induction for that frequency.

It is well-known that the higher the frequency or potential difference of the current the smaller the capacity required to counteract the self-induction
end of tesla quote

To me this says the bifilar coil, is dodging lenz law (which isnt a law, but a observation) OR only a law like ohms law. ohms law aplies to DC circuit. high frequency AC pulsed circuits, is a different story (where resistance is frequency dependent, and phase related)

@ bob
the third field produced by waveguides does exist.
Not normally taught in electronics the perpendicular near field component waves
in the air repeat once the metallic dipole propagates the first.
This field continues after previous field line unlike having only single metallic dipole.

https://youtu.be/JYKEZATy4Fk

[Allen Burgess]

Power gain from adding wire.

Here's perhaps Bruce TPU's coolest video; Bruce demonstrates voltage climbing
as he adds lengths of copper wire end to end in series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1uzG0G0NIA

[Allen Burgess]

More magnetic field strength with less input.

Here's another excellent video by "zeropoint 132" demonstrating how additional wire doubles magnetic field strength while more then halving the input, reinforcing Mikrovolt's bifilar magnetic strength comparison test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk

[Allen Burgess]

More magnetic field strength with less input.

Faraday's law mentions a magnetic field in motion generating electrical current. "Zeropoint 132's" video test is using a single uninterrupted D.C. current pulse.

Microvolt is pulsing his bifilar repeatedly, so a receiver coil of equal copper mass and configuration, in wave length distance, would generate A.C. current at the increased level!

The formula would be: 1unit of input, times 1 unit of copper mass would equal I unit of output; 1 unit of input, times 2 units of copper mass would equal 2 units of output!

[Allen Burgess]

Negative Quadfilar Inductance.

I'm preparing a video for uploading right now. I wound two serial bifilar coils together in a spiral wrap. I connected the two serial bifilar coils together in series and measured the inductance. I set the inductance meter to the 20 Henry scale. The two ends of the eight wires went to the measuring electrodes.

What you'll see in the video is the inductance increasing spontaneously in the negative range to 20 negative Henrys then OL. I reversed the electrodes from positive to negative, and still got a reading of inductance in the negative range steadily increasing to 20 Henrys then OL.

Here's the really exciting part: I clamped two ceramic block magnets in attraction around the end of a plastic tie and held them to the Quadfilar air core hole while holding the test electrodes in the inductance meter; A very noticeable and powerful swinging was induced in the suspended magnets both from each side of the coil and with the magnets turned around. Stand by for the video!

[Allen Burgess]

Failed upload.

I'm on my fourth failed attempt to upload this video off my "Huawei" android phone. I'm planning to re-video record another with my Toshiba laptop. This constitutes a landmark video; Please be patient, I won't disappoint anyone, I promise!

[Allen Burgess]

Quadfilar resonance spontaeneously building a magnetic force in "Negative Henrys".

This first video finally uploaded: I'll follow up with a second demonstrating the induced magnet field oscillation. This will prove once and for all that a real magnetic field is building spontaeneously in the Quadfilar coil, measured by the inductance meter in "Negative Henrys".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHyL8uusX7A

[Allen Burgess]

Speaker wire bifilar.

@evostars,

I couldn't help being impressed by your PHI factor speaker wire bifilar pancake coil. Surly you can appreciate my Quadfilar spiral 2 double speaker wire coil.

I have some measurements I would like you to try and make on your coil to compare with mine:

I have four ends from the same twin wire. The two ends of the same single wire measures 68 MegaOhms, and the two ends of the different unconnected wires measures 9 Mega Ohms.

The two ends of the same single wire measures negative 5 Henrys and the two ends of the different wires measures a positive .3 mH.

I'm certain our speaker wires are the same length and gauge. What do you make of these measurements?

[Allen Burgess]

Oscillating "Quadfilar Spiral" magnet field.

I'm astonished to witness the spontaneously oscillating field of my "Quadfilar Spiral Coil" rocking a stack of 8 tiny 1/4" Neo disk magnets suspended nearby by rubber bands. This coil is alive with no power attached at all. Just incredible!