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  • Originally posted by evostars View Post
    You gave false information?
    To see his reaction?

    I dont understand why you would do this?

    Nelson Rocha has already hit a hard wall, trying to do business.
    Secrets can make you an easy target, NDA's also!

    I hope you will share your results and insights with the world skycollection.

    Is there a reason why you dont have 4 multimeters, so you can show DC voltage and current on the input and output side of your very inspiring video's?
    Many times I have proposed to the two forums, ENERGETIC FORUM and OVERUNIT.COM to send one multi-layer pancake coil with only the shipping cost to be analyzed, I even proposed it to Coradelectro, and to other people who are in these forums, and the last one to Master Ivo, everyone rejected the proposal and did not take it seriously. This time yes I sent my last SKY 48 creation with a person who interested in it and will be analyzed very soon. The last configurations that I have created have different results since they are now more powerful coils and they are configured differently, I really feel sorry for the people who rejected my offer.
    Saludos desde Mexico

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    • Steinmetz explains electricity

      In C.P. Steinmetz his book
      "Elementary lectures on electric discharges, waves and impulses, and other transients" from 1911,
      he describes how electricity works, in a way that is very logical, by using the dielectric and magnetic fields.

      It has inspired me greatly. I'm very grateful Nelson Rocha shared his first edition of this book with me.
      It has given me great insights in how a bifilar coil really works, and what we can do with it.

      I am making a video series explaining the fundamentals, and how this is translated to the bifilar tesla pancake coil.
      These are the first 3 in the series (more to follow, please subscribe on my youtube channel)

      Lesson 01: Fields; electric energy stored in the dielectric and magnetic field
      https://youtu.be/NSKKbEo6fzI

      Lesson 02: Power, inductance and capacity; and how they relate.
      https://youtu.be/LclozdKdZRc

      Lesson 03: Infinite voltage and current; and how the time factor plays a role
      https://youtu.be/zmZxQp1PW1U

      I hope this will inspire more people.
      Together these 3 videos hold a lot of information that when combined are priceless.

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      • Thank you for that!
        It is apreciate.

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        • Hello !



          thanks for the video! they are very interesting and educative !


          regards

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          • C.P. Steinmetz explains electricity part 4

            And another quote from C.P. Steinmetz, with at the end a preview:

            https://youtu.be/ZuE3z17olOw

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            • Good Evo,
              Steinmetz math is the power company workhorse is grid systems approach for the generation and propagation of AC waves along power transmission lines.
              Good reading review of the dielectric fuzzy stuff.

              Better to be moderate on electrons because of the various forms that waves take on outside the power company. One avenue of math is the data
              modeling of wavelets and AI that will address dielectric anyway. Not having that equipment gives us a larger challenge. We can approximate and organize
              pictures that will guide future AI how to filter and highlight the important details that allows compressing areas (pixels) that are less valuable.
              This is done in math with MRI. This wavelets stuff will be needed for smart grids.

              This is why we use terms such as virtual, photons, and phonon. some of those terms : The metric and the composite fields even temperature fields
              https://profmattstrassler.com/articl...what-are-they/
              The idea of the electron fades to one of the spherical entities in the subset of energy entities in lattice. It is easier to see this in the solid
              phase of an element having it's own lattice. Reminds me of a sow bug rolling up in a ball.

              The waves can transform from a lattice of a solid to the lattice of a gas.
              The E and M components of an EM wave are held together perpendicularly by vibration.
              Last edited by mikrovolt; 02-16-2018, 05:36 AM.

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              • particle VS field theory

                Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
                Good Evo,
                Steinmetz math is the power company workhorse is grid systems approach for the generation and propagation of AC waves along power transmission lines.
                Good reading review of the dielectric fuzzy stuff.

                Better to be moderate on electrons because of the various forms that waves take on outside the power company. One avenue of math is the data
                modeling of wavelets and AI that will address dielectric anyway. Not having that equipment gives us a larger challenge. We can approximate and organize
                pictures that will guide future AI how to filter and highlight the important details that allows compressing areas (pixels) that are less valuable.
                This is done in math with MRI. This wavelets stuff will be needed for smart grids.

                This is why we use terms such as virtual, photons, and phonon. some of those terms : The metric and the composite fields even temperature fields
                https://profmattstrassler.com/articl...what-are-they/
                The idea of the electron fades to one of the spherical entities in the subset of energy entities in lattice. It is easier to see this in the solid
                phase of an element having it's own lattice. Reminds me of a sow bug rolling up in a ball.

                The waves can transform from a lattice of a solid to the lattice of a gas.
                The E and M components of an EM wave are held together perpendicularly by vibration.
                With all respect to your viewpoints,
                From my point of view, there are no "particles" no electrons no photons no protons etc.
                I learned to think in fields, because they make much more sense to me.
                Particles, are "Invented" to make it easy to think in a certain direction. And it indeed has its benefits, to think in particles.

                But to me thinking in particles is very limited.
                Fields can transform into each other. The dielectric into the magnetic and vice versa.
                Like ice into water into steam. But still, its the same water.
                Fields are all made from the same stuff. The Aether.

                until now we know the dielectric and magnetic field. both seem to be transverse. But As Eric Dollard pointed out, there is also a longitudinal component.

                So is there a third field? And is it polarized? Or is is the zero between the plus and minus?

                Is it maybe time itself (not talking about Einsteins space time)
                The present the past and future.

                I dont know. But I do now that playing with the time factor, as Steinmetz showed can create infinite voltage and infinite current. In theory...

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                • Originally posted by evostars View Post
                  With all respect to your viewpoints,
                  From my point of view, there are no "particles" no electrons .

                  But As Eric Dollard pointed out, there is also a longitudinal component.
                  Dollard calls end points of lines of force electrons, protons could be referred to as terminals.

                  https://youtu.be/TttHkDRuyZw?t=6687

                  In some situations yes and other situations no since the science remains incomplete. It is difficult to clean up the whole mess.
                  It is the mindset or matrix that holds so many captive.

                  Another good Steinmetz Dollard video presentation that is easy to follow, easy to stop and read at a slower pace ect:
                  Reasoning that another moderate source will reinforce these ideas that are rarely ever taught will help more persons, schools could adopt.

                  https://youtu.be/3OANm6DtFc8
                  Last edited by mikrovolt; 02-21-2018, 05:11 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
                    Dollard calls end points of lines of force electrons, protons could be referred to as terminals.

                    https://youtu.be/TttHkDRuyZw?t=6687

                    In some situations yes and other situations no since the science remains incomplete. It is difficult to clean up the whole mess.
                    It is the mindset or matrix that holds so many captive.

                    Another good Steinmetz Dollard video presentation that is easy to follow, easy to stop and read at a slower pace ect:
                    Reasoning that another moderate source will reinforce these ideas that are rarely ever taught will help more persons, schools could adopt.

                    https://youtu.be/3OANm6DtFc8
                    Great links, thanks. A little more detail, from the first link a quote from Dollard:
                    "in themselves, the electrons and protons have no material physical existence, they are terminals"
                    In other words, the end points of the lines of force (fields) are not "existing material particles"

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                    • I rebuild my circuit. this time the capacitor discharge does create a resonance, and it has some interesting effects.
                      I tried to tune a second coil to the same resonant frequency. But I could not get both coils to get resonant at the same time, while being stacked. pretty odd.

                      I removed the second coil, from the resonant first coil that was connected to the circuit. when it was more then a diameter away, I got a RF burn.
                      I was pretty amazed. How could this coil be resonant? It couldn't be magnetic coupling, the fields were to far out of line.

                      I checked with the probe, and sure the coil was resonant at a pretty distance.
                      weird interactions, made me remember the work of Konstantin Meyl. This looked like longitudinal power transfer. would love to see if there is a real power tranfer.... to soon to say.

                      I'm making preparations to make a proper video. but the circuit isn't really stable, as I rebuild it from the first design. It is very messy. But I want to document the effect first, before I redesign the circuit.

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                      • recycling electric energy, using back emf to produce resonance

                        I made a circuit that recycles electric energy.
                        first the current is used to produce a magnetic field, that brings a parallel coil into resonance.

                        then the collapse of the field produces a back emf.
                        I store it in a capacitor, and discharge the capacitor into a coil that also becomes resonant.

                        this way I am using the same electric energy twice. I am recycling electric energy.

                        this is the video:

                        https://youtu.be/1Q8usAXWtVM

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                        • You are on good track. Can you draw schematic ?

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                          • thx boguslaw,
                            I can, but i rather do it when the final circuit is working.
                            this version misses a polarity inversion.
                            Im building the third version, and that probably the one I will share along with a schematic.

                            its 2 gate drive ic's and two mosfets. one is driven by a pulse transformer.
                            a monostable dual channel fast ic is used to change the phase angle.

                            more to follow soon.
                            this weekend I'll share a video where both methods of creating resonance are combined into one resonant coil. showing amplification of the resonant energy.

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                            • Evo

                              Would this be reproduceable without the use of a scope for tuning?

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                              • Originally posted by Zardox View Post
                                Would this be reproduceable without the use of a scope for tuning?
                                yes, you could use a neon light bulb to find the resonant frequency.
                                If one end of the resonant coil is grounded, the other end is touched by one leg of the neon bulb, while holding the other leg.
                                When the coil is resonant the neon bulb will grow.

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