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  • #76
    @ufopolitics
    you suggest reinforcement of the magnetic field.

    what if we reinforced the dielectric field? with dielectric material. and by using bifilar foil instead of thin wire. to make the dielectric field area bigger.

    until now we think of it as a bifilar coil with great capacitance.
    but what if we start looking at it as a bifilar capacitor with inductance?

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    • #77
      I still wonder what happends with the south coil. the resonant signal is out of phase with the center pulsed coil, and the wires are counter wound (by reversing the coil). Still the voltage rise is much bigger then the north coil.

      I wonder If I could use this reverse wound, opposite phase, in another configuration, where the outside coils are pulsed, to make 2 distanced inside coils resonate out of phase.

      This way the resonant coils interact direct with eachothers fields. without conflicting with the pulsed outside coils.
      Attached Files

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      • #78
        Originally posted by evostars View Post
        screenshot of the relation between the pulses of the center coil, and the resonant sine wave of the reversed south coil

        edit: notice they are out of phase
        VERY INTERESTING!

        Thank you for sharing as always Evostars!
        "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." - Benjamin Franklin + Thomas Jefferson

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        • #79
          Originally posted by evostars View Post
          I really need a proper lesson in high voltage safety before i proceed.
          Has anybody got a good link?

          I just got shocked by my capacitors. I thought they where discharged.
          after discharging the diode side, of my 4 series connected capacitors, there still was a charge left from the middle capacitors.

          Doesnt make sense to me. but apperently you need to dicharge all capacitors separate, when they are in series?

          Luckily I know the one hand rule. it discharged via one hand. So not through my whole body (heart). It gave me a good laugh, and a proper warning.


          I really need a proper lesson in high voltage safety before i proceed.
          Has anybody got a good link?
          Hello Evo

          That is not even funny. I have had the air let out of my tires more than
          once. I had to go rest or shall we say my day was shortened as I was
          suddenly and completely exhausted.

          5000vdc pulsed at 200ma is quite a ride, hope everyone lives to tell
          about it.

          Your screen shot showing the phase shift is a reflected and collected
          waveform I think because your 3 coils are both sending and receiving.

          I have never done this test and is good to see the waves on the tube.

          Do you think the shift is significant?

          I really enjoy your delivery on the tube video's, clear thinking.

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          • #80
            BroMikey and ET-Power

            I wonder about the phase shift. I wonder why it shifts. I've seen it several times at the resonant frequency. I suspect the dielectric and magnetic fields allign, causing this shift.

            the out of phase signals add up instead off cancelling out. thats strange. If 2 out of phase soundwaves are added, they normally cancel out.

            I need more coils, so I started rolling again. fast drying glue, double sided tape, cd sleeve, 2 copper wire spools, and some Zen mastery:
            Attached Files
            Last edited by evostars; 04-18-2017, 02:57 PM.

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            • #81
              Spiral bifilar

              Here's a very simple "Vortex Bifilar Spiral" coil design. The electrodes attach to the spliced parts.
              Last edited by Allen Burgess; 05-19-2017, 01:28 PM.

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              • #82
                Solid State Energy Multiplier, Resonante Frequency

                Originally posted by evostars View Post
                BroMikey and ET-Power

                I wonder about the phase shift. I wonder why it shifts. I've seen it several times at the resonant frequency. I suspect the dielectric and magnetic fields allign, causing this shift.

                the out of phase signals add up instead off cancelling out. thats strange. If 2 out of phase soundwaves are added, they normally cancel out.

                I need more coils, so I started rolling again. fast drying glue, double sided tape, cd sleeve, 2 copper wire spools, and some Zen mastery:
                Looking beautiful as always!

                This is on topic, but not specifically apart of your experiment at the moment...

                This is compliments to Patrick Kelly (http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/)... from what he told me, you won't find this in the PDF's:

                Make a tank circuit and get it into resonate frequency. Then run as many tank circuits as you want in Series, Parallel, Series, Parallel... This is a, solid state, infinite energy multiplier. At least one way to do it, there are others...

                Because I do not have the proper tools at the moment I can't do this form of energy multiplication myself to confirm, but from what he told me you can keep running them in series and then parallel and then series and than parallel as long as they're in resonance and you'll keep getting higher and higher output.

                The man who discovered this told Patrick that he didn't want it published because he feared the regressive elite would use it as a weapon. As Patrick said, the man wasn't fully aware that they had Tech far beyond this already.

                Sláinte Mhaith to Patrick!
                "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." - Benjamin Franklin + Thomas Jefferson

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by ET-Power View Post
                  Looking beautiful as always!

                  This is on topic, but not specifically apart of your experiment at the moment...

                  This is compliments to Patrick Kelly (http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/)... from what he told me, you won't find this in the PDF's:

                  Make a tank circuit and get it into resonate frequency. Then run as many tank circuits as you want in Series, Parallel, Series, Parallel... This is a, solid state, infinite energy multiplier. At least one way to do it, there are others...

                  Because I do not have the proper tools at the moment I can't do this form of energy multiplication myself to confirm, but from what he told me you can keep running them in series and then parallel and then series and than parallel as long as they're in resonance and you'll keep getting higher and higher output.

                  The man who discovered this told Patrick that he didn't want it published because he feared the regressive elite would use it as a weapon. As Patrick said, the man wasn't fully aware that they had Tech far beyond this already.

                  Sláinte Mhaith to Patrick!
                  Thats a mighty interesting site, thanks for sharing.

                  series parallel you say. Hmm interesting. the bifilar pancake coil is series connected. This connection, is what I call the bridge. In Tesla's patent 512340 there is a dot drawn on this bridge. I always wondered why.

                  If it was to be connected from this point, the windings would be parallel.
                  So, what I'm hearing is, connect a resonant frequency bifilar coil, to another equal resonant frequency bifilar coil, but now to the center bridge. And from that coil, again to the series connection...

                  Very interesting.
                  I made 2 new coils today. So now I have 5 more or less equal coils(tunable). this should be a interesting experiment.

                  Again, Thanks for sharing!

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by evostars View Post
                    BroMikey and ET-Power

                    I wonder about the phase shift. I wonder why it shifts. I've seen it several times at the resonant frequency. I suspect the dielectric and magnetic fields allign, causing this shift.

                    the out of phase signals add up instead off cancelling out. thats strange. If 2 out of phase soundwaves are added, they normally cancel out.

                    I need more coils, so I started rolling again. fast drying glue, double sided tape, cd sleeve, 2 copper wire spools, and some Zen mastery:
                    I think the out of phase cancellation of waves only happens when
                    each wave is in the others region of operation. otherwise maybe only
                    the harmonics of each wave will find some identical matching pair to
                    intersect with that could eliminate the other.

                    Waves of a feather flock together using such low quality circuitry,
                    meaning that unless precisely locked and highly accurate channels
                    are forced into the same narrow band very little cancellation takes place.

                    The mastery is all inside of your creative mind that is the candle
                    of the self existent one.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by evostars View Post
                      Thats a mighty interesting site, thanks for sharing.

                      series parallel you say. Hmm interesting. the bifilar pancake coil is series connected. This connection, is what I call the bridge. In Tesla's patent 512340 there is a dot drawn on this bridge. I always wondered why.

                      If it was to be connected from this point, the windings would be parallel.
                      So, what I'm hearing is, connect a resonant frequency bifilar coil, to another equal resonant frequency bifilar coil, but now to the center bridge. And from that coil, again to the series connection...

                      Very interesting.
                      I made 2 new coils today. So now I have 5 more or less equal coils(tunable). this should be a interesting experiment.

                      Again, Thanks for sharing!

                      WHOAAAAHHHH!!!!!

                      I remember reading your comment about the dot in the tesla patent, I do not know, but MAYBE he was hinting at pulling from the center of that series connection?!?!?!

                      Looking forward to hearing your results with that and the series - parallel - series - parallel - series - parallel - etc... tank circuits!

                      Enjoy!
                      "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." - Benjamin Franklin + Thomas Jefferson

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                        I think the out of phase cancellation of waves only happens when
                        each wave is in the others region of operation. otherwise maybe only
                        the harmonics of each wave will find some identical matching pair to
                        intersect with that could eliminate the other.

                        Waves of a feather flock together using such low quality circuitry,
                        meaning that unless precisely locked and highly accurate channels
                        are forced into the same narrow band very little cancellation takes place.

                        The mastery is all inside of your creative mind that is the candle
                        of the self existent one.
                        "The mastery is all inside of your creative mind that is the candle
                        of the self existent one."

                        That's it BroMikey! Brilliant Words! ! ! ! ! !
                        "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." - Benjamin Franklin + Thomas Jefferson

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                          I think the out of phase cancellation of waves only happens when
                          each wave is in the others region of operation. otherwise maybe only
                          the harmonics of each wave will find some identical matching pair to
                          intersect with that could eliminate the other.

                          Waves of a feather flock together using such low quality circuitry,
                          meaning that unless precisely locked and highly accurate channels
                          are forced into the same narrow band very little cancellation takes place.

                          The mastery is all inside of your creative mind that is the candle
                          of the self existent one.
                          Indeed for cancelation to happen with sound, it needs to be the same frequency, and out of phase.
                          The frequency is the same on both coils, and the signal is out of phase. So why do the voltages add up?

                          "The mastery is all inside of your creative mind that is the candle
                          of the self existent one."
                          Nice One! but I dont really understand, is this a quote from somewhere?
                          the self existent one, what does that mean?

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ET-Power View Post
                            WHOAAAAHHHH!!!!!

                            I remember reading your comment about the dot in the tesla patent, I do not know, but MAYBE he was hinting at pulling from the center of that series connection?!?!?!

                            Looking forward to hearing your results with that and the series - parallel - series - parallel - series - parallel - etc... tank circuits!

                            Enjoy!
                            Interesting yes

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by BroMikey
                              Great progress guys, when you get a break look at these.


                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU60yDZKBNs
                              that picture with the red one
                              [VIDEO]https://youtu.be/aIdX8WAb8Sc[/VIDEO]
                              https://youtu.be/aIdX8WAb8Sc
                              I've seen it before. It shows using the center tap of the coil.
                              I thought about the joule thief connection, it seems to work, but when you look at the signals, they never reach full potential.

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                              • #90
                                Finished building coils. I also made a single wire pancake, to be connected to the pulse genereator. It didnt make sense to use the bifilar coil with the pulse generator. The impedance is much to low to have a proper power transfer, so I will use a standard pancake coil, which has a higher impedance.
                                Its the dark one in the middle.
                                I already had one, so now I've got 5 bifilar coils, and 2 single wire bifilar coils (to connect in series with the IGBT pulse generator)
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