Magnetic field of a bifilar pancake coil

[Allen Burgess]

Tinselkoala

NOTE ,I WILL REMOVE THIS POST IF YOU WISH.


Sir
over at your thread At Stefan's I know you preferred to take your own path [commendable]

however one of our friends partzman has given us permission to investigate anomalies which he feels have OU 'tendencies" in Bifilar coils.
these anomalies are said to be more inline with transmission line theories.

he calls it MEI [magneto electric induction]

it represents years of his work [and others work]

you are welcomed to participate ,however I must post one comment.
He really likes working with TinselKoala and similar persons and has recently had a nice result /verification] of his work By Tinsel
while the findings are preliminary the collaboration is encouraging.

I know somehow here I read things about TinselKoala which seem quite unfounded and odd.

the bar for respect is being raised at Stefan's forum ,and that is a good thing
to see here and everywhere.

with respect and gratitude
Chet
PS
I do believe there may be a thread here already for MEI,I will check
and just for clarity ,experimenters will be supplied with sample bifilar coils
once the geometry and size can me decided on.

so there is continuity in the experimental path [just one of many paths]

PPS since this is transmission line theory, we may connect the work of ambient harvesting [JacknoskillsPDF http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...capacitor.html
as well as some pulsing experiments

@Ramset,

Firstly , if Tinselkoala is what you say he is, how come he's banned from posting here on Energetic forum?

Secondly; Tinselkoala is totally ignorant of the area of Inductance.

The equivalency of a Coulomb to a Gauss is a mass energy equivalency that Albert Einstein extrapolated into E=MC squared.

No one can understand anything when Tinselkoala twists simple facts and maintains that Watt Hours are not units of power. He denied a Coulomb is equivalent to a Gauss, and that a Watt Hour is equivalent to a Tesla.

"Electric power is the rate, per unit time, at which electrical energy is transferred by an electric circuit. The SI unit of power is the watt, one joule per second. A "Watt Hour" is 3600 Joules".

Tinselkoala simply couldn't answer the question put to both him and Milehigh and rather then admit they're un-knowing, they put on a "Wise guy Act".

Maintaining that "Negative Current" is imaginary is another act of unforgivable mischief.

[RAMSET]

Tinsel was banned here for his work with Anslie circuit,I had asked him to help investigate that COP17 Claim here

somebody here thought Tinsel was wrong and removed him [a few others were removed too]

the mistake from Anslie was eventually found.[due to Tinsels efforts]

Allen
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about with these sophomoric insinuations

Honestly I am burnt out with guys who make things up and have nothing to show for it .

Tinsel experiments and posts his results for replication and scrutiny,
I suggest You[Allen} do the same
One thing I can absolutely guarantee 100%
I will have nothing to do with your many "vapor wars"
EDIT
To Note I see your" Negative Henry" post below .
I will start another topic for Partzman's MEI work in Transmission line theory [after I speak with him later]
and reactive power [transmission line] will also be discussed

one thing I must make very Clear...this [partzmans work] will be a well designed hunt for Anomalous energy,thru empirical testing.

[Allen Burgess]

Tinmans video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnndKlAsq4E

@Tinman,

The gain is stored in the magnetic field and is measured in "Negative Henries". This measurement has an electrical power equivalent!

[bistander]

Facts

...
No one can understand anything when Tinselkoala twists simple facts and maintains that Watt Hours are not units of power. He denied a Coulomb is equivalent to a Gauss, and that a Watt Hour is equivalent to a Tesla.
...

No matter how long nor how many times Allen repeats these falsehoods, they will never become truths. Do not be fooled. Go to a reputable source (website or textbook) that has a section on SI units and check the facts; the real true definitions of coulomb, gauss, watt hour and tesla. Then the non-equivalence is clear.

[bistander]

AC/DC ---Who cares?

"This measurement" which Allen refers to is crap because it is obviously AC from the video and treated as though it is DC, ignoring the phase shift of current to voltage (pf). The experimenter needs to use impedances with complex arithmetic for the circuit and power calculations.

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ns-circuit-png

[Allen Burgess]

No matter how long nor how many times Allen repeats these falsehoods, they will never become truths. Do not be fooled. Go to a reputable source (website or textbook) that has a section on SI units and check the facts; the real true definitions of coulomb, gauss, watt hour and tesla. Then the non-equivalence is clear.

@bistander,

Can you provide us with "Hyperlinks" to any of these so-called sources of yours with specific facts pertaining to the particular values under discussion?

[Allen Burgess]

Allen's crap?

@bistander,

Just go check out a textbook?

[SlickDick]

No matter how long nor how many times Allen repeats these falsehoods, they will never become truths. Do not be fooled. Go to a reputable source (website or textbook) that has a section on SI units and check the facts; the real true definitions of coulomb, gauss, watt hour and tesla. Then the non-equivalence is clear.

bi, i for one appreciate your efforts, alas they are in vain.

For example

At a very minimum, the "Earth Stator Rotor" will run at unity.Turning an axial polarized neo magnet stack 180 degrees off magnetic North by hand, and releasing it results in a spontaneous reorientation. This is free power.

The pulse from a tipped toroid power coil only needs to spin the rotor half way, and the "Earth Field" makes up the other half of the rotation for free. So, theoretically this rotor spins at unity!

Now, if we place a second one next to it and supply them both with "Earth Grounds" and "Antennas" we can spin them both for the same input pulse. That means together now we have COP of 2. Adding a second antenna would double the power to the pulse coil with no increase in input power.

The output from the first can power them both, so the output from the second is all gravy!

There's a legal limit to the size of the spark we can generate. This is the major limitation of the system.

The underlined section. I don't think this needs explanation. However it speaks volumes and is basically the red line throughout all of Allen's posts.

Correcting all is futile. Maybe it is time to open a thread with a listing of members known to continually distribute BS. The list will be a long list though.

[bistander]

Units

Here is an easy reference for SI units from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...ystem_of_Units



You can find may more by like using Google search for SI units.

And Allen, what is the question about textbooks? In case you don't know, they are found at libraries and schools.

[RAMSET]

have gotten the go ahead

OK
I have gotten the go ahead on this from Partzman ,he will be sending out all Bits required for a mirror replication of this apparent anomalous energy in Bifilar arrays to Tinsel's Lab.

it will [as always] be a Brutally honest investigation.

you guys need to sort this disruptive [Allen]"self looping" behavior here.

just one mans opinion..........

[Allen Burgess]

"This measurement" which Allen refers to is crap because it is obviously AC from the video and treated as though it is DC, ignoring the phase shift of current to voltage (pf). The experimenter needs to use impedances with complex arithmetic for the circuit and power calculations.

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ns-circuit-png

@bistander,

Quote from bistander:

"The experimenter needs to use impedances with complex arithmetic for the circuit and power calculations".

We need bystander to confuse us with calculations that are too hard for him to deal with.

Look how simple this really is:

"Definitions. In both AC and DC fields, the reluctance is the ratio of the "magnetomotive force” (MMF) in a magnetic circuit to the magnetic flux in this circuit".

[Allen Burgess]

Here is an easy reference for SI units from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...ystem_of_Units



You can find may more by like using Google search for SI units.

And Allen, what is the question about textbooks? In case you don't know, they are found at libraries and schools.

@bistander,

Nice copy and paste job. So what?

[SlickDick]

@bistander,

Nice copy and paste job. So what?

I rest my case.

[Allen Burgess]

I rest my case.

@Your case requires the attention of a colonic surgeon.

[Allen Burgess]

Negative value.

Inductance in Henries is a measure of emptiness. How much volume is in a container? One gallon of volume would be a positive value of nothing, right?

Now, let's say we fill the gallon bottle half way; We can view the liquid as negative emptiness. Do you follow me so far?

We need to view the contents as inverse holding space to understand the meaning of the value.

It doesn't matter if it's A.C. or D.C.; The reluctance is the ratio of the "Magnetic Flux" in the circuit and the "Magnetomotive Force" or MMF.