Magnetic field of a bifilar pancake coil

[Allen Burgess]

Allen
here is a good spot to fill with posts

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-forum-30.html

or start another topic?

I will remove this post later

@ramset,

Why would I choose to post on a thread started by someone who just asked Stephan Hartiberlin to "Permanently Ban" me from commenting on the Overunity site?

[Allen Burgess]

Tinselkoala's latest bifilar measurements.

Quote from Tinselkoala,

"Repeating the above calculations and taking the scope's reported RMS values and phase shift as "exact", along with a more precise measurement of the DC coil resistance as 10.4 ohms, I get

Total Input Power = 0.011846 W or 11.85 mW.
Total dissipated power in R1+R2+Rcoil = 0.01178 W or 11.78 mW.

Rounding to three significant digits we have 11.8 mW in = 11.8 mW out".

What about any power stored by the bifilar coil in the form of "Magnetic Flux"?

[Allen Burgess]

Flynn's Parallel Path

Look at Flynn's comparison measurements of parallel magnet strength below: On the far left we see one magnet between the stators that has 421 grams of pull strength; The next illustration to the right shows two magnets between the stators that has 1721 grams of pull force. Where did this additional "Phantom" pull force come from?

[boguslaw]

I don' t understand why Tinman jsut cannot measure heat dissipation on those resistors (maybe replacing with smaller ones) - with infrared tools

[Allen Burgess]

I don' t understand why Tinman jsut cannot measure heat dissipation on those resistors (maybe replacing with smaller ones) - with infrared tools

@boguslaw,

Good point!

Two magnets should add up to 842 grams of pull force, double the strength, but the two magnets furnish over "Twice" that amount of pull strength from the coupling at 1721.

No one is measuring for this kind od doubling in magnetic flux in the bifilar from the coil coupling. It's always the same erroneous result; No difference!

[Allen Burgess]

Bifilar test.

I have two coils on my test bench at this time and plan to upload a new video soon. One is a single wire coil and the other a series connected bifilar coil; Both are wound on identical bobbins with the same 24 gauge copper magnet wire. Both coils measure the same Ohms and Inductance. Both coils pick up the same number of steel Hex nuts when connected to the same 12 volt D.C. battery.

I plan to connect the coils in series through a "Blade Switch" to the 12 volt battery. This video will demonstrate the power of "Firing A Magnet Wave" at a stack of magnets suspended at a distance by pulse, comparing the performance of the two different kinds of coils!

[Allen Burgess]

Tesla bifilar "Firing Magnet Wave" test.

My first test shows that the "Tesla Series Connected Bifilar Coil" is spinning the suspended stack of eight 1/4" neo disc magnets at over twice the distance of the single wire coil when pulsed from the 12 volt battery.

Additional more thorough testing shows there is no difference between the coil distance after all!

[evostars]

i'm a bit...
is it so hard to respect this thread?
And where is the moderator when you need them?

for those, who are interested. I've been working at it again, and found new interesting results. I will post when i have enough results to share.
meanwhile, I found another forum that is inspiring and well moderated.

So.. im out for now.

So sad, that this spam has continued.

im out

[evostars]

@ramset,

You're a shameless scoundrel inferring that Evo has begged anything from anyone. Have you no sense of personal integrity? Take a look at yourself you deceptive trouble maker. Stop stirring the pot!

Allen Burgess,
With all respect I kindly but urgently ask you to start your own thread.

I do NOT like your words:
"you're a shameless scoundrel,
you deceptive trouble maker"

[Allen Burgess]

Lamentaion.

Allen Burgess,
With all respect I kindly but urgently ask you to start your own thread.

I do NOT like your words:
"you're a shameless scoundrel,
you deceptive trouble maker"

@evostars,

Poor baby. Oh boy am I sorry.

[Allen Burgess]

Magnetic flux.

@evostars,

In all respect, I have a question for you: Do you have any way to measure the level of magnetic flux in your pancake coils?

"This can be done using a gaussmeter, also known as a magnetometer or an EMF detector (electromagnetic field detector), which is a hand-held device that measures the strength and direction of a magnetic field strength. They are readily available to buy and simple to use".

[Allen Burgess]

Gain in stored flux.

@evostars,

We can calculate the flux from the inductance and current input to the both types of coils. We need to measure the magnetic flux and compare the actual flux to the calculated flux to make sure there's no gain in the stored field. The electrical measurements alone are inconclusive.

It takes 3600 Joules per second to generate 1 Tesla or 10,000 Gauss in a coil of 1 Henry. You need to measure the Gauss in each coil accurately with a Gauss meter then compare the measurement to the calculated field. Only then can you be certain wether there's any gain or not.

[Allen Burgess]

Bifilar test.

Xee2 tested the inductance of the two different kinds of windings on ferrite cores and measured a 5% increase in the series bifilar in both low and high perm cores:

[Bob Smith]

I am watching this topic with interest here and on a couple of other forums. I have been working with a set of three series-wound bifilar pancake (swbifip) coils for about a week. My focus is on the interaction between the swbifip coil and the local electrostatic environment.

If I am not mistaken, an inductor pulsed below resonant frequency will be dominated by capacitive reactance, while pulsed above resonant frequency, resistive reactance dominates. In simplest terms, below resonance, the inductor behaves like a capacitor, and above resonance, begins to behave like a resistor. At resonance, neither predominates.

However, given the low reactance and high capacitance of the swbifip coil due to its configuration, what actually happens to its capacitance (let alone reactance) at resonance?

I'm going to throw out a thought - if reactance in an inductor drops to zero at resonance, and we transpose this understanding to the swbifip coil, is it possible that at resonance, its extremely low reactance might drop below zero, effectively giving it negentropic characteristics of a negative resistor?

There are some decent YT videos out there showing a rise in voltage amplitude at resonance in this coil. Is it another animal entirely, for which another set of parameters has to apply?
Bob

[RAMSET]

an invitation

Allen
I see you slap and taunt and then ask for contributions [from EVOstar

I honestly have no understanding of your position here, but have stopped posting in Evostars thread since you abducted it ...after repeated requests from him to start another topic.
and now you move along as if nothing has happened ,

so conquer by rudeness wins once again.
yes Allen you love to win.....

anyhoo
here is an opportunity to win again
an invitation to show what you mean without math and formulas .
just a good build with good measurement protocol's
and no there will be nobody building whom you have threatened to destroy and Harm [personal vendetta's] which is in Violation of terms of service here and everywhere ]

and all will be viewable for scrutiny from all members here

can you accept such an offer ?
no talk just a build ??

in a dedicated thread ??

PLEASE READ THIS TOO
no posting of other persons you tube links
Just an experiment presented by YOU
and a Build/investigation will follow

??
or I leave you in peace...