Magnetic field of a bifilar pancake coil

[RAMSET]

Allen
It would have been more honest to say
I don't know how to do that ??

instead you hide in another man's thread and throw stones at passersby

Evostar reply to Allen
QUOTE
Allen Burgess,
With all respect I kindly but urgently ask you to start your own thread.

I do NOT like your words:
"you're a shameless scoundrel,
you deceptive trouble maker"
END QUOTE

Goodbye Allen the rude

[SlickDick]

Allen
It would have been more honest to say
I don't know how to do that ??

instead you hide in another man's thread and throw stones at passersby

Evostar reply to Allen
QUOTE
Allen Burgess,
With all respect I kindly but urgently ask you to start your own thread.

I do NOT like your words:
"you're a shameless scoundrel,
you deceptive trouble maker"
END QUOTE

Goodbye Allen the rude

Chet,

Maybe stick to the "Also being discussed here" "promotional" posts. It is what you do best. Despite of being a victim of "active suppression".

Thank you!

[RAMSET]

Slick
all to often Allen locks himself in the "Promotional Threads" [like this one]

and takes over the topic, since he has been moderated at Stefan's for doing exactly this and much worse.

there is another "promotional thread" of an open source build [is that an oxymoron??]
about to get underway [Pancake coils and wild times ]

thank you for the Kind words, although "active suppression" sounds more like
Allen the rudes work here in Evostar's thread.

[SlickDick]

Slick
all to often Allen locks himself in the "Promotional Threads" [like this one]

and takes over the topic, since he has been moderated at Stefan's for doing exactly this and much worse.

there is another "promotional thread" of an open source build [is that an oxymoron??]
about to get underway [Pancake coils and wild times ]

thank you for the Kind words, although "active suppression" sounds more like
Allen the rudes work here in Evostar's thread.

Allen's reasoning is; The output of moving "something" by hand, is free energy.

Now, my post was about you and what you do best. Post "Also being discussed here", threads and being the "victim of active suppression" according to your own statement.

In any of the above cases, both of your post counts may be high, the credibility of both of you is low... way down low.

Below zero.

[RAMSET]

Slick
I figured that was your intent
Active suppression has never been typed by myself.

try to have a better day

Respectfully
Chet

ps
and yes I will leave you to your wonderful contributions .

[SlickDick]

Slick
I figured that was your intent
Active suppression has never been typed by myself.

try to have a better day

Respectfully
Chet

ps
and yes I will leave you to your wonderful contributions .

Like i mentioned, reading every post since 2008.

Slick
Having recently been involved with active gov,t suppression (as a vicitim)
I will definitely give people the benefit of the doubt .

However one case as opposed to thousands would seem a stretch to say the least.

just one mans opinion

Chet

You speak with forked tongue.

You can't have both.

[RAMSET]

Well

I must admit
yes
that one time while I was busy just shamelessly promoting open source research
for no personal gain whatsoever , [for grateful fellows like yourself]
they shut my phone down and fried my computer.

I honestly forgot I typed that here ,and yes others involved got visits from gov't officials in AUSTRALIA [I was not soo fortunate .


anyhoo
you sound like a real busy guy....
have a good life

Chet K

[Allen Burgess]

Grade level

Slick
all to often Allen locks himself in the "Promotional Threads" [like this one]

and takes over the topic, since he has been moderated at Stefan's for doing exactly this and much worse.

there is another "promotional thread" of an open source build [is that an oxymoron??]
about to get underway [Pancake coils and wild times ]

thank you for the Kind words, although "active suppression" sounds more like
Allen the rudes work here in Evostar's thread.

@ramset,

I have gauged your education level at around 4th or 5th grade.

[RAMSET]

you are too generous

since this is Evo's thread and he is working on Nelson's work too [as are others]
Nelson just sent some info

Respectfully
Chet K

[Allen Burgess]

Magnetic Field Comparison.

Tinselkoala announces at 1:25 in this video, that his monofilar coil measures a higher inductance because it's wrapped tighter:

There's a strong chance TK sneaked just this same kind of "Rim Lead" into his earlier two coil inductance test!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXKJjNAZDEM

[RAMSET]

More from Nelson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ytg_B9Vs60

respectfully
Chet K

[Ufopolitics]

@Evostars...

Hello Evo,

I've got a "different" connection and excitement design to your Tesla bifilar coils, that I would like to suggest...since you have already built so many coils of this kind...plus you have a Signal Generator to create and modify the input signals...:

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Both positive signals are exactly the same, same On time, same Off time, except both take place at opposite timings, alternated meant that when one is On, the other is Off, at around 180 to 160 degrees apart.

They are represented as square on diagram, however, would be better if forming a smoother curve-sine up then down...

What you would be doing is generating exactly two magnetic fields which are completely opposed Spatial polarizations, and so, Magnetic Poles plus Dielectric Field would be producing Two Full Reverse Spins in every cycle...

Then add two Secondaries Bifilar's Coils on each Face of this excited bifilar coil...preferably of coarser wire...connect them in series...then take readings off their end terminals which must -please - include Amperage...

And finally...add some iron center core...and end plates -after the three bifilars- if possible to "enhance Fields"...

Wish you the best on your working progress...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[evostars]

Hello Evo,

...
Both positive signals are exactly the same, same On time, same Off time, except both take place at opposite timings, alternated meant that when one is On, the other is Off, at around 180 to 160 degrees apart.

What you would be doing is generating exactly two magnetic fields which are completely opposed Spatial polarizations, and so, Magnetic Poles plus Dielectric Field would be producing Two Full Reverse Spins in every cycle...

....
Wish you the best on your working progress...


Regards


Ufopolitics

Thanks Ufo polititcs.
This is in the line of progress, that I'm working on right now.

creating two full reverse spins. That have shown to avoid the static magnetic field normally formed, at it's resonant frequency. But the dielectric voltage rise is still there. the resonant coil above and below, can now be closed looped series connected. (normally the resonance is cancelled when closed looped, but here it keeps resonating. Important to be able to extract the resonant energy)

I intend to pulse the coil from both ends, at the same time, with opposite polarity hairpin pulses. I've done this with a pulse transformer, but thats far from Ideal. Still with this setup I've tested, and concluded its different.

I've used these hairpin pulses (so far only one polarity) in most of my experiments. Infinite small rise and fall times, but high in voltage.

This is like A hammer ringing a bell. A short but powerfull impulse rings the bell into its resonant frequency. (with the coil I hammer/pulse it at its resonant frequency). So, not a square wave or sine wave.

I have been searching for a way to produce these spikes of voltage.
The pulse transformer was one way. But A capacitor discharge would be much better. Like in the tesla hairpin circuit, where 2 capacitors are connected in series. The connection beween them could be made by a bifilar coil.

when the capacitors are discharged by a sparkgap, at the transformer side (providing high voltage to charge the caps). the 2 capacitors dis charge from both ends through the coil.

But I don't like spark gaps... I want solid state.

I looked at the joulethief circuit, and there the spikes also occur at the base and collector of the NPN transistor. But these both spikes, altough they look perfect, when loaded, the collector side is much stronger than the base side.

I tried balancing the joulethief by adding a PNP transistor, but it doesn't work that way.

Now, I have made up a way to redistribute the resonant standing wave, into another coil. By splitting the resonant standing wave, with two diodes, into a positive and a negative component, and connect those components to the 2 connections of a bifilar coil (which must have the same resonant frequency).

This way the standing wave reconnects again, but is now counter rotating.
Haven't tried it yet...

[Ufopolitics]

Imho

Thanks Ufo polititcs.
This is in the line of progress, that I'm working on right now.

creating two full reverse spins. That have shown to avoid the static magnetic field normally formed, at it's resonant frequency. But the dielectric voltage rise is still there. the resonant coil above and below, can now be closed looped series connected. (normally the resonance is cancelled when closed looped, but here it keeps resonating. Important to be able to extract the resonant energy)

I intend to pulse the coil from both ends, at the same time, with opposite polarity hairpin pulses. I've done this with a pulse transformer, but thats far from Ideal. Still with this setup I've tested, and concluded its different.

I've used these hairpin pulses (so far only one polarity) in most of my experiments. Infinite small rise and fall times, but high in voltage.

This is like A hammer ringing a bell. A short but powerfull impulse rings the bell into its resonant frequency. (with the coil I hammer/pulse it at its resonant frequency). So, not a square wave or sine wave.

I have been searching for a way to produce these spikes of voltage.
The pulse transformer was one way. But A capacitor discharge would be much better. Like in the tesla hairpin circuit, where 2 capacitors are connected in series. The connection beween them could be made by a bifilar coil.

when the capacitors are discharged by a sparkgap, at the transformer side (providing high voltage to charge the caps). the 2 capacitors dis charge from both ends through the coil.

But I don't like spark gaps... I want solid state.

I looked at the joulethief circuit, and there the spikes also occur at the base and collector of the NPN transistor. But these both spikes, altough they look perfect, when loaded, the collector side is much stronger than the base side.

I tried balancing the joulethief by adding a PNP transistor, but it doesn't work that way.

Now, I have made up a way to redistribute the resonant standing wave, into another coil. By splitting the resonant standing wave, with two diodes, into a positive and a negative component, and connect those components to the 2 connections of a bifilar coil (which must have the same resonant frequency).

This way the standing wave reconnects again, but is now counter rotating.
Haven't tried it yet...

Thanks Evo,

IMO I believe you are directing into a way which is a bit different than what I have suggested...I wil exlplain:

The way I have suggested is that both (identical, positive) signals are NOT to be sent at the same time...but alternated, that way one field spin-direction would have its life span, while the other one is at "idle" (actually we may say contracting or retracting), and its reverse currents on this decaying stage would assist the energized one...so on...and actually the On times for both is less than their Off Times.

We have differences in some points of view about magnetism...for instance I believe there is no "Static Magnetic Field"...magnetic fields are dynamic at all time of their existence. However, about the dielectric field you are right...its force is above magnetic fields force...but if you pull too much from that force, both poles will weaken as well.

But let's better leave "Magnetism Assumptions" belonging to "Theories"...and let's keep on the real experimenting...

So getting back to Lab work...I rather concentrate in doubling or making much higher the amperage at output than input, instead of voltage...Voltage could be stepped up simpler if we get the high enough amps.

I used to agree with "hair pin pulses" before, Evo...but have learned over time there is required for each field to be of a certain duration of spin force existence, precisely to increase amps...and that is only achieved by longer ON times.

See, the height of the signal represents its voltage in a scope...but the duration (On Time) -in this particular scenario- relates to amperage generation.

Anyways, I did not mean to take you off your track of experimenting...is only up to you my friend, and if you get to have the time and desires to do it.

No matter what... we are both working to reach the same purpose, same goals...and I wish you the best of luck in your path!!


Regards


Ufopolitics

[evostars]

Thanks Ufopolitics.
"we are both working to reach the same purpose, same goals...and I wish you the best of luck in your path!!"
Yes, I agree. many paths lead to the same goal. We'll get there!