An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[nutzNvoltz]

I found interesting info at the following links but I’m not quite sure what to think of it yet. I’m still digesting it. It’s interesting because it proposes a method of gravity shielding, as opposed to mass cancellation, so that the effects of external gravity on the vehicle can be controlled while the mass remains the same within the shield. Could you take a look at this and possibly translate any of it into engineering terms?
https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/9904/9904018.pdf
https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0212/0212033.pdf
https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01320459/document

I see from an earlier post you’ve seen some of this work by Fran De Aquino.

From the links you provided; what do they have to do with the ARV?

[thx1138]

From the links you provided; what do they have to do with the ARV?

Shielding the vehicle and occupants from the effects of gravity rather than "mass cancelling" the craft and it's occupants, as Mark McCandlish suggests, leaves the occupants alive. Imagine "mass cancelling" your body. What would that do to your brain/nervous system and the molecules of your body? Would they function the same?

[Gambeir]

Thanks thx1138, as always thoughtful, now as to this first part my thought is that you're spot on. Yes, it is a logical deduction: I think it is a "Telsa Magnifying Transmitter." You are correct as well that a unique quality of mercury is to act as a one way valve. I was aware of that, but it's obvious you know a lot more about electronics than I ever will. Which is why I brought this topic to this forum in the first place. In my opinion this is all correct: Like a shark sensing blood you're chasing the tail of wounded prey, you now know, and so yes it is real isn't it? You know it is now don't you?

Two corrections to my previous document post: throughout that document I called the electrical device a “Tesla Coil”. That is not correct. It is really a “Tesla Magnifying Transmitter”, in the case of the ARV, using mercury as a high voltage diode (it only allows current to pass in one direction) to transmit high voltage unipolar, unidirectional pulses to the capacitors at the bottom of the vehicle. And in the drawing, the mercury is called a rectifier when it really acts as a diode. That’s an interesting property of mercury – it only allows current to flow in one direction.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ECTROGRAVITICS
RE: Biefeld-Brown: The intensity of the effects is determined by five factors, which are:
1. The separation of the plates of the condenser, the closer the plates, the greater the effect.
2. The ability of the material between the plates to store the electrical energy in the form of elastic stress. A measure of this ability is called the "K" of the material. The higher the "K," the greater the Biefeld-Brown effect.
3. The area of the plates, the greater the area giving the greater effect.
4. The voltage difference between the plates; more voltage, more effect.
5. The mass of the material between the plates; the greater the mass, the greater the effect.

These are stated in John Iwaszko video series as well. The saucer shape fulfills the needs best. We want to decrease the space between the plates, but we also want to increase the mass of the dielectric material (*here you say "area") and the way to accomplish that is with a plate. Thus, the greater the disc diameter, the more you can reduce the distance between the capacitor plates whilst increasing the area/mass of the dielectric. For those needs to be fulfilled the disc saucer is the best choice. So by way of using a disc shape we solve 1,3 & 5 by the best possible/available means.

The needs dictate the design just as a vehicle needs wheels or an aircraft a set of wings. The design cannot then be accidental or a random fabrication; it is a real machine. It's form follows it's function as a requirement just as a car would require wheels or an airplane wings.

Item 5 is somewhat counter intuitive. It would seem that the less mass in the craft the less gravity modification would be necessary. But Item 5 indicates that a greater mass of the dielectric is beneficial.

So what is needed is high voltage unipolar, unidirectional pulses into a high K, high mass material between plates placed as close as possible together while still avoiding dielectric breakdown. Mark McCandlish talks about 500kV to 1000kV used in the ARV. Pulses at those voltages would surely supply a “jerk” as mentioned in your earlier post. A Tesla Magnifying transmitter could deliver those pulses.

Considering items 2 and 5 above, do you have any ideas on what to use as a dielectric in the capacitors?

Yes, the capacitors; I was researching into this but had to learn a bit more.There is a connected path. The path to improved capacitors seems to be associated with metallic alloys. Going by memory on this one. Give me a bit of time and I'll get back to you on this for your thoughts.

The dielectric in the capacitors must, evidently, possess a specific characteristic. Generally speaking, this goes back to the first posts about the reference to Herkimer Quartz, and which takes us into the qualities of quartz itself that may be significant; negative index's, formations, types, geometry, possibly more complex qualities.

So the reference to this specific quartz is not accidental. Why there is a specific reference to Herkimer Quartz is that it is a so-called false diamond while a diamond is pure carbon. I conclude the link/association is to carbon atoms. Then from that to the geometry of the atomic structure and then on to the orbitals of the valance planes for the electrons. In previous posts I made associations with how electrons (*assuming they exist) follow orbits and how these orbits then allow for asymmetric orbitals paths by way of valance orbits in some materials, and which if prevented from back tracking upon one another, will produce an asymmetric moment of force.

That's one theory right? However...however...a magnet isn't using electricity to create a repulsive force upon graphite, and yet a chip of pyrolytic carbon will float upon a magnetic field. So the issue here is; do we understand how this happens? Do we understand the capacitor system?

Brown used lead originally in his gravitator. My understanding right now is that there is an manufactured alloy specific to this application. I think I've got something on this somewhere's. It's been a while and I'm going to have to dig. Seems like I recall this being a Magnesium Alloy. Like I have a specific alloy in memory or something. Going to have to look in my junk OK?


***Note***
* I post the links I do for a reason. Stuff appearing, disappearing, ect. There is a connection here to thought (present ideas immediately in your consciousness) and the subsequent outcome. If we begin screwing around with this stuff, which I think is likely, then serious attention to that potential needs to be thought about before hand. It is almost impossible to really control and predict what thoughts enter our mind. So like you want to make sure the car keys and wallet are not on the work table when you begin fooling around: There is an immediate local effect which is proportional to energy input but in a radius of as yet unknown proportions relative to the energy input. Others, such as Joe Parr seem to have discovered some aspects of this field, and which wasn't even involved with energy as we think of it. Rather it was a rotating magnetic field acting upon a geometric form which created another form of energy, and so while it's possible to logically connect magnetic influence to electrical energy, and to explain away some effects as evident influences of magnetism, it's not possible to connect the power of magnetism with it's true evident abilities. I think we are just now beginning to get a glimmer and probably don't know half what we think we know. So the idea here is it is a matter of record that these machines alter time. It is well known that they can and routinely do this, they also are known to seemingly be capable of creating teleportation like effects. This isn't fiction. It's recorded information; proceed wisely then.

Therefore, bearing in mind experimenting may be of great importance in ways we yet do not comprehend we need to proceed with caution. This machine is not just a levitation machine. They do/can distort/warp time; pretty sure about that. For all I know that might be all they are really doing, and everything else is an illusion of movement so to speak.

Central column
Further research reveals quartz is not a good material for the transparent central column. McCandlish remarks about 500kV to 1000kV electric fields. Regardless of what material is inside the column, it is going to produce hard X-rays and gamma rays at those voltages and quartz will not shield that radiation.

Leaded glass is what is usually used to shield that type of radiation with a transparent material. The stronger the radiation the thicker the glass will be (possibly in many sheets rather than just one) and the higher the lead content of the glass will be.
https://www.google.com/search?q=does...utf-8&oe=utf-8
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Th...tion_shielding

If that is the case, it may be that what the abductees are seeing is actually an image of what is going on inside the column rather than the actual material itself – analogous to an animated image displayed on a CRT computer monitor with a transparent background. Or, again, the central column in the ARV is not transparent. It seems not to be from Mark McCandlish’s drawing. Note there are no light diagonal lines as are usually used in drawings to indicate transparency on the upper portion of the column and the lower portion only shows the bottom device with a spike with a portion of the column cut out to reveal it.

Hmmm... agree. Sounds likely from what we know right now.

[nutzNvoltz]

Shielding the vehicle and occupants from the effects of gravity rather than "mass cancelling" the craft and it's occupants, as Mark McCandlish suggests, leaves the occupants alive. Imagine "mass cancelling" your body. What would that do to your brain/nervous system and the molecules of your body? Would they function the same?

Could you elaborate on the difference between "shielding" and "mass cancelling"? THANKS!

[thx1138]

Could you elaborate on the difference between "shielding" and "mass cancelling"? THANKS!

Mark McCandlish talks about mass cancelling and cites it as the reason that a totally light based computer system was needed in the ARV because mass cancelling would negate the mass of electrons so a normal computer system wouldn't function because the electrons wouldn't act as usual. So what happens to the electrons in the bodies of the occupants of the vehicle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua0MMXJl3FM
50:35 Fiber optic communications so mass cancellation (and its effects on electrons) does not affect the computer control system.
50:48 “…everything in the system starts to become mass cancelled…the electrons become mass cancelled…”

Shielding, as described by Fran De Aquino, does not alter the mass of the vehicle or its occupants but nullifies the effect of gravity on whatever is inside the plasma surrounding the vehicle as if the force of gravity cannot penetrate the plasma. As I understand it, it is somewhat analogous to using an umbrella in the rain with the water being the gravity and the umbrella the shield.
https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/9904/9904018.pdf

[thx1138]

@Gambeir "...electrons (*assuming they exist)..."

I know a lot of people like to say that electrons don't exist. Personally, I think that's just affectation.

Whatever it is that is emitted from the gun in the back of a Cathode Ray Tube to illuminate the phosphors on the screen exists and can be steered with magnetic fields. We can call them whatever we want. For example, electrines, cathode ray particles, corpuscles, or that-thing-that-makes-phosphors-glow-in-a-CRT. But whatever it is, it has been called an electron since the late 19th century.

Ken Wheeler says electrons don't exist but then holds a large circular magnet up to the screen of a CRT to "prove" that magnetism is a vortex. What is actually shown on the CRT screen is how the trajectories of the electrons emitted by the electron gun in the back of the tube are deflected from their intended paths by the magnetic field. Hold that same magnet up to an LED display and no swirl is displayed.

Whatever we call it, it's a real thing. I'll stick with electron, thank you.

[Gambeir]

@Gambeir "...electrons (*assuming they exist)..."

I know a lot of people like to say that electrons don't exist. Personally, I think that's just affectation.

Whatever it is that is emitted from the gun in the back of a Cathode Ray Tube to illuminate the phosphors on the screen exists and can be steered with magnetic fields. We can call them whatever we want. For example, electrines, cathode ray particles, corpuscles, or that-thing-that-makes-phosphors-glow-in-a-CRT. But whatever it is, it has been called an electron since the late 19th century.

Ken Wheeler says electrons don't exist but then holds a large circular magnet up to the screen of a CRT to "prove" that magnetism is a vortex. What is actually shown on the CRT screen is how the trajectories of the electrons emitted by the electron gun in the back of the tube are deflected from their intended paths by the magnetic field. Hold that same magnet up to an LED display and no swirl is displayed.

Whatever we call it, it's a real thing. I'll stick with electron, thank you.

I think it was Philo Taylor Farnsworth who refused to accept that electrons existed and insisted that they were, in fact, rays of some kind.

[Gambeir]

*Note I was unable to make replies for the last few days because of server 500 error message. It now appears that by breaking the message/reply down I can now post

I have been intrigued by the double layer vortex you mentioned and did some digging on that since doing the plasma globe pictures. You should find the following links interesting. The tornado double layer vortex is a feature of the electrical properties of the tornado. Then again, you my already know all of this.
https://thedailyplasma.blog/2017/02/...-dusty-plasma/

Yes, I am familiar but a really good link there. I agree and recommend it highly. You see in there the Marklund Convention Illustration as well, and which is a virtual description for the ARV's center column by all appearances.

Marklund convection - Everything Is Electric

I don't think I read this link previously but agree with it entirely and would recommend it as well. A superior source really. The entire page could be cited for various reasons.

I noticed this statement, among the entire, and which probably supports your idea on the leaded glass of the central column.

"When a pinch in a Birkeland current occurs in cosmic space the magnetic flux tubes are not directly observable themselves, but the associated plasma filaments can often be observed by the radiation they emit.”

Plasma z-pinch, zeta pinch, electromagnetic space structures

Again..yes..you probably can now see why I began with this tornado idea.
"Z-pinches are the most efficient scavengers of matter in space"

[Gambeir]

https://translate.google.com/transla...new_page_6.htm

Probably the most interesting and practical link. Also, thanks because this is the source to a illustration I posted early on.

There's a link here in all this. We just haven't quite got it connected up is all.

It’s still not clear to me, however, why a double layer vortex would be beneficial in the ARV if we are looking for electrogravitic effects. I understand it in a kinetic energy scenario but not in relation to electrogravitics where we want only a positively charged plasma around the exterior of the vehicle.

First of all the vehicle is bamboozling, but it seems that it's not a matter so much of expertise as it one of our limitations: We seem to be missing the Ah-ha moment more than anything else right now. While we wait for the moment I also have to ask if there has been an intentional efforts to corrupt knowledge, and I have to say that I believe there has been, and that quantum physics is what a criminal investigator would label as planted evidence which has held real science back for over a half a decade. The solution provided to the long mysterious double slit experiment validates, in my own mind, that the foundations of this so-called science is truly nothing more than mysticism; returning physical proofs to the realm of knowledge and dispensing with magical creations as a source of information is a step in the right direction.

Since we have one corruption then why not another?

Are we missing information? Is critical knowledge being hidden? This I direct towards magnetism and Ken Wheeler (*The hidden missing secrets of magnetism). Our understanding of this field has been quite primitive. That's probably not accidental either in my opinion.

The only way I can reason out the ARV is to think of it in terms of the limits of technology. This design is probably from the mid 1950's. Even optical control systems are not themselves prohibitive of the age of this machine. Optical controls would have been a lot more involved but not beyond the reach of periscopes. There's nothing in this machine which is beyond the reach of the mid 1950's, which really means it's not beyond the reach of the 1940's either. Thus, even the pilots controls are completely doable with 1920's technology.

[Gambeir]

Now that I've solved the posting issue I want to bring this post by ET-Power back into the light. In the Chris Hardeman experiment there is no mention of helium gas. However, I recently got a message from Universe, and which seems to be urging me to mention Helium. Now Universe doesn't often take direct action in the affairs of peons, especially ones like me unless it's to make me the butt of a joke, which it relishes doing but it did recently send me a bold message, and being an especially dimwitted human it decided I really needed to be doubly reminded. So here is a brief account.

I recently stumbled upon two seemingly discarded tanks of helium gas. Naturally my first thoughts were about my good luck since this is such novel thing to have around, however what I was going to do with these mostly empty tanks of helium? Being a screw around I had many thoughts on how I could use the tanks once I'd emptied them, but I also didn't want to really waste the gas by mindlessly sending balloons from the dollar store adrift. So what should I do with the remaining gas then?

I was thinking about this when I recalled ET Powers post on Joe Newman and helium balloons. Well ya know...could this have been all that accidental? No, it can't be, and because I'm so dense Universe took the unprecedented step of insuring the message by doubling it's odds that I'd eventually receive the message by giving me two mostly empty tanks of helium gas.

So now I have to wonder....Helium...Barbury Crop Circle..Chris Hardeman...hmmm.....now you don't think that maybe if you put helium inside some aluminum or copper spheres and excited that with microwaves?

Anyways...have to mention this because otherwise Universe will be pissed if I don't. Hopefully this will result in getting a full tank of helium on my next visit...to the dump. If not then the only other obvious answer is that Universe again intends to plant a large dunce cap on my head...which probably more likely considering my life story.

Last week it hit me that I should share this section of a Joe Newman video that I had seen a long time ago and I recall him explaining how he made a SIMPLE em craft.

DIRECTIONS:
Helium Balloon, 30ga copper wire wrapped around the outside of the balloon until it has weighted the helium balloon to the floor, then punch in a 250V battery and it will rise, switch polarities on the battery and cables it will then turn 180*, pulse the battery into the coil and it hovers, disconnect battery and it falls to the ground.

This is a very simple experiment anyone can do and I plan on doing it once I get enough 9V batteries to run them all in series.

The section in the video links below describing this is from 26:00 - 34:00 minutes into the video.

For those of you who prefer to use Startpage Videos and not YT, search:
"New Energy Series: Joseph Newman 3/5"

Otherwise, here's the YT Link:
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMC5Ra2-8QA[/VIDEO]

[thx1138]

I think it was Philo Taylor Farnsworth who refused to accept that electrons existed and insisted that they were, in fact, rays of some kind.

Rays, be they cathode rays, sun rays, or cosmic rays, are usually described as a stream of some kind. A stream of water does not mean the water molecules don't exist.

In the case of the CRT, it is a stream of electrons, the trajectories of which are modified by the focusing coil to "paint" the image on the display by causing the phosphors to emit light when the electrons exchange energy with the phospors.

So while a ray or stream of something can be taken as a whole thing, it does not specify a stream of what.

I don't claim to know more than Philo T. Farnsworth, but even the most brilliant minds are mistaken on occasion.

[Diplomacy]

Why don't you just use the tanks themselves, wrap a coil around the outside and pulse it with fast high voltage DC.

[nutzNvoltz]

Mark McCandlish talks about mass cancelling and cites it as the reason that a totally light based computer system was needed in the ARV because mass cancelling would negate the mass of electrons so a normal computer system wouldn't function because the electrons wouldn't act as usual. So what happens to the electrons in the bodies of the occupants of the vehicle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua0MMXJl3FM
50:35 Fiber optic communications so mass cancellation (and its effects on electrons) does not affect the computer control system.
50:48 “…everything in the system starts to become mass cancelled…the electrons become mass cancelled…”

Shielding, as described by Fran De Aquino, does not alter the mass of the vehicle or its occupants but nullifies the effect of gravity on whatever is inside the plasma surrounding the vehicle as if the force of gravity cannot penetrate the plasma. As I understand it, it is somewhat analogous to using an umbrella in the rain with the water being the gravity and the umbrella the shield.
https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/9904/9904018.pdf

Thanks thx1138! Sounds like shielding is the way to go.

[thx1138]

...I also have to ask if there has been an intentional efforts to corrupt knowledge...

Here is one example but I don't know if it was intentional. It seems to be. On the other hand, they may have been erring on the side of caution.
Toxicologist says NAS panel 'misled the world' when adopting radiation exposure guidelines

Now consider that you can buy weakly radioactive materials, i.e. pitchblende, thoriated tungsten welding rods, and raw thorium with no controls at all. Search ebay or look here:
United Nuclear

Actually, I have mixed emotions about the subject. If, as you say, time travel is always possible with anti-gravity do we want to enable every Tom, Dick, and Harry to modify, intentionally or unintentionally, the past?

The entirety of civilization depends on stability of a sort. I had an example explained to me on a much less grand scale but it is relevant none the less. I was talking with my son's wife's mother when I first met them at the wedding. She came to America from Argentina as a child. She was explaining about talking with her grandfather in Argentina after she was an adult and said he was dumbfounded by the idea of a 30 year mortgage. In his day, if anyone bought real estate in Argentina, it was bought with cash paid in full because no one knew if the next government turnover would result in private property confiscation. It is stability that allows a 30 year mortgage to even exist. That's not earth shattering but consider the instability in the world if time travel is possible.

And even excluding time travel, do we want to enable, conservatively speaking, five hundred million people to modify the gravity of some portion of the earth's mass on the planet earth? Could that modify the orbit of the planet or, with weaker gravity, modify the orbit of the moon? What would happen to the atmosphere with less gravity to hold it in place? Imagine the consequences of any of those scenarios.

I'm not particularly interested in time travel. My interest lies in generating electricity as described in Fran De Aquino's work. On the other hand, if time travel could show me next week's lottery numbers, I might be more interested

[Gambeir]

Why don't you just use the tanks themselves, wrap a coil around the outside and pulse it with fast high voltage DC.

I thought about that. The main thing seems to be that there are specific references to helium from time to time. They just crop up here and there in various references about levitation, I can't bring any specifics off hand, but have run into them. Mainly I just wanted to toss the idea out in regards to using a gas like helium in a Hardeman/Barbury microwave driven machine.

There's an idea that a sub-group is using this same level of technology to try to tell us specifics and they have to do it using crop circles because it's too dangerous to use any other means, and would be intercepted in any case. I seriously doubt crop circles are alien creations because of the apparent technology behind the machines which create them doesn't appear to me to anything we don't already have readily available.

We also already know that microwaves are involved in crop circle formations, and that the objects which make them are these flying sphere's, so it would seem to make sense that more is needed besides just bombarding the interior of the sphere with high frequency waves. Possibly a gas like helium is necessary. Real crop circles have had various experts examine them, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone ever suggest that the folded over vegetation could have been done by gravity waves, and frankly looking at all this in different light seems to make that idea seem logical to me.