An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

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Couple what is possible from these kinds of experiments with an inexhaustible energy source, and flying saucers don't seem that far from the mainstream now do they?

There's just so much to dig through and with so much confused data that the de~facto effect is retardation. I arrived at almost the exact same concept as explained in the patent some time ago unaware that the explanation given by Dr. Alzofon is nearly identical to my own conclusions, and his own are identical to those in the cited patent and whose conceptual origins apparently date as far back to 1963: Apparently it's been there in the open for a very long time. https://patents.google.com/patent/US4663932A/en

Now of course fortunately for most of you reading this you weren't alive in 1963, but I was, and the odd's of being made aware of such an idea were about as likely as finding publisher's clearing house at the front door with the grand prize.

Considering the Alexey device, deductive logic says...cough..in retrospect.... the only way to make sense of a device like the Alexey is by collision of intersecting energies. Thus, by route of simplistic logic, and employing these ideas of electrical energy and magnetic force, then it only makes sense that if you have an alternating electrical field shifting back and forth in a fixed plane, and which is an electro~magnetic energy source that is also perpendicular to a rotating DC field whose magnetic polarity is fixed and which is also a magneto~electric energy source, that at some point the polarities of opposed energies will collide; those of the rotating magnetic DC will interdict a same polarized AC field resulting in a subsequent forceful outcome; one direction or the other. In this sense the effect is akin to the Garro's machine gun deflector plate where once in while you can get the timing sequenced so that every other couple bullets hit the deflector plate.

This means that if the Alexey Device were to have a rotating magnetic DC charged plate which was timed with the alternations of the AC field the potential thrust would undoubtedly be vastly greater, maybe so much so that this would have been another mystery as it might have simply launched itself in to the unknown heavens to be lost forever, much like others have had happen, and if instead of a one lung system wherein only one polarity is being used for this propulsion technique (*which is why it does work at all) it was designed so as to invoke a synthesized synchronized system whereby both polarities were being employed, which is what is described by Dr. Alzofon, then that outcome would be still greater.

Again the Sonnenrad Black Sun Disk is manifestly a square wave encoded timing wheel: n'est-ce pas?

The perfidious of the whole world of physics as we know it may or may not be the result of intent. Although it's very hard to think that what we have today is mere chance, but that idea would fit nicely with public indoctrination's that historical development is a case of mere happen chance events: A concept which I'm sure would not serve many a detective very well, nevertheless, what does seem clear (right now) is that we have to re~evaluate these ideas which have formed the backbone of the cult of bumping particles otherwise known as physics and which we presently entertain as knowledge.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/perfidiously

Nature must work from the simple to the complex and not the other way round. I agree with Ken Wheeler in this regard and believe we have misread the scriptures of Mother Nature rather badly.

It seems self evident to me that the ether moving through matter can create specific vortices, and these vorticies have been interpreted incorrectly as independent particles, but which have arisen out of interactions with the dielectric field of the ether, with the ether now being re~defined as quantum energy, and from this idea of quantum energy there has now come dark energy as an adjunct to this idea that quasi~particles, rather than a dielectric field itself as the ether which creates the mysterious energies of so called quasi~particles, and which manifest themselves (*for unexplained reasons in quantum theory) with some choosing to stay and become particles of matter, whist others decide to leave and to vanish back in to this quantum realm.

This is an absurdity and quite frankly an insult to intelligence.

Physics does appear to be a perfidious re~construction of the otherwise commons sense logic of what could more logically be understood as etheric dielectric interactions instead of the quantum field, and which has since been made more mysterious with the introduction of this idea so~called quasi-particles arising out of dark matter and dark energy. Because of the way crystalline geometric shapes work to create energy a more logical and sensible approach is to see the so~called quantum as a dielectric soup and out of which comes the ether dancing with matter and spinning itself into endless spirals; etheric vortex's whose specific relationship is given by the forms and shapes of matter itself. That's really what is being demonstrated by piezo-electric matter whose crystalline geometry defines the nature of spin states which ether creates as it interacts with the crystal formation. These spin states that the ether creates interacts with other energies, such that when an invisible ray, like say a gamma ray or an Ultraviolet ray passes, then those kinds of rays can "excite" the spin of vortices which we have defined as nuclear in nature. There's a sense to this as well since the velocity of magnetism is instantaneous and rays arising out of the ether are by natural order coherent dielectric energies.

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History and ideas past and present.
https://sciencing.com/4-atomic-models-8121716.html
http://model31.pl/en/the-new-model-of-the-atom/

[Turion]

Couple what is possible from these kinds of experiments with an inexhaustible energy source, and flying saucers don't seem that far from the mainstream now do they?

[Gambeir]

Thanks alijhoa,

Now ya know we are on the right track when you can look at the Sonnerad with a new understanding of what it is really about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../Black_Sun.svg

The Sonnerad is almost certainly an image of an encoding wheel combined with the symbolism of a pulsed square wave.


The way the Alexey device works is about as primitive as the first attempt at arming an airplane with a machine gun. Roland Garros fitted a French Built Morane~Saulnier with a metal defelector plate to kick aside bullets which otherwise would have hit the propeller. This arrangement sort of worked but of course naturally it eventually came to pass that the propeller was destroyed one way or other. The Germans employing Anthony Fokker were quick to improve on this system by fitting a cam which interrupted the trigger mechanism so that there was no possibility of the machine gun firing a bullet that would hit the propeller. We call this an interrupter gear/cam.

In the Alexey Device we basically want the opposite. Our object is to hit the propeller at precisely the right time: Altogether a more difficult proposition and with a square wave impulse. Ideally we want this happening in sequence so that there is a push pull effect and hence the desire for perpendicular alternating magnetic pulsations which are sequenced to interdict the alternating field of the charged plate in a productive manner and thereby increasing the force propelling the nuclear spin state.

BTW, who now still thinks Joe Parr wasn't investigating how this works and why? What's in Antarctica? Nazi flying saucers, lost alien saucers, or technology from a previous civilization? I'm gonna put my money on the cult of the Black Sun considering Admiral Byrd's and General Douglas MacArthur's loose lips.

[aljhoa]

thrust so generated is proportional to the polarization, the frequency of the dipole rotation, and the magnetic field strength.

Part 3: Eric Laithwaite's Reality-Defying

https://youtu.be/0L2YAU-jmcE?t=1640

Al

[Gambeir]

What have I lost everyone now? This business is about gyroscopic precession or spin states.
What creates these spin states in the first instance is likely important down the road.

That the Alexey works at all shows that the over~all arrangement must not be super critical because the Alexey device does not have a magnetic field operating at right angles to the AC charged aluminum plate and which is synchronized with the AC frequency. It simply has a magnetic field operating at a right angle with an additional DC charge. In addition it does not have a synchronized alternating magnetic field as depicted in the experiments of Joe Parr. Instead it simply has a alternating magnetic field: There's room for improvement.

The Alexey device does have an aluminum plate which absorbs far UV and which is charged with AC and is a polarizable material. It does have spinning magnets supplying an alternating magnetic field at right angles. It does have an applied polarization to aluminum plate through the movement of the magnetic field across the surface of the paramagnetic material with the DC current.

When the device does accidentally fall into a nuclear magnetic resonace then "thrust so generated is proportional to the polarization, the frequency of the dipole rotation, and the magnetic field strength."

[Gambeir]

I'm re~posting this information here for discussion.*Originally posted on the Alexey Cherkurkov thread.
I'm thinking that because of Turions' post we now have an answer/explanation for at least the Alexey Device and the basic outline to understand others.
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/...721#post498721

Originally posted by Turion View Post

To post some info from the book that I believe is extremely pertinent.... in 1957 a UFO followed a B-47 loaded with electronic monitoring equipment for over 1 1/2 hours. During that time the B-47 crew was able to USE that equipment to determine that the UFO was emitting powerful bursts of microwave radiation in a very narrow range:
Frequency 2295-3000 Megacycles per second
Pulse width: 2.0 microseconds
Pulse frequency: 600 cycles per second
Sweep rate: 4 rpm
Polarity: Vertical

Further info from "Dynamic Nuclear Orientation" by C. D. Jeffries 1963 as applied by Dr. Alzofon.. (CAPITALIZATION OF WORDS is mine)

"the method of dynamic nuclear orientation is easy to state. A CONSTANT magnetic field is imposed on a specimen of ferromagnetic material, causing the electrons of the atoms to precess about the direction of the field with a characteristic (Larmor) frequency. An OSCILLATING magnetic field which varies at the Larmor frequency is then applied to the specimen at RIGHT ANGLES, causing the electrons to tip over and become oriented. To preserve the angular momentum of the specimen, the nuclei must ALSO tip over and become oriented".

The "oscillating magnetic field" was supplied by square-wave pulses of microwave radiation in the vicinity of 3000 Mhz.
In Dr. Alzofon's words... "rapid cycling of nuclear orientation acts like a pump to draw energy out of the gravitational force in the vacinity of the vehicle.

That's it in a nutshell.
Do you see the similarities?


http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/...790#post498790

A dipolar force field propulsion system
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4663932A/en

In consideration of the Alexey Cherkurkov Device.

See: "Nature of excited states.
"The method of excitation can be from a source of ultraviolet radiation as from a lamp or laser having a photon energy equal to Planck's constant (h) times the frequency,"

"the inventor of the present application published an article entitled "Electromagnetic Propulsion Without Ionization" which appeared in the AIAA/SAE/ASME 16th Joint Propulsion Conference which was held on June 13, 1980 to July 2, 1980 in Hartford, Conn. The paper presented at the above-described 16th Joint Propulsion Conference disclosed the concept of electromagnetic propulsion without ionization. Specifically, the paper disclosed that when an alternating electric field is applied to a polarized or polarizable material(*Includes Aluminum), the dipole of the material can be made to rotate at high frequency. If an alternating and synchronized magnetic field is supplied at right angles to the electric field, a Lorentz force is generated which propels the dielectric fluid without the necessity for ionization and the consequential energy losses arising from the ionization process. The thrust so generated is proportional to the polarization, the frequency of the dipole rotation, and the magnetic field strength."

[Gambeir]

Anyways, I appreciate it when you do contribute Ufopolitics and nothing wrong with saying what you think either.

Whether real or not the machine seems to depict a real machine using a fundamentally simpler propulsion system than something like a black tetrahedron or other saucers. Possibly creating some sort of standing wave is what I was thinking.

About half way down http://scripturalphysics.org/4v4a/AD...l#PiggottLinks
There's a non working link to a PDF by M. PitkĻanen whom also runs stealthskaters. Well here is the PDF.
"About strange effects relating to rotating magnetic systems"
http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/pdf...ticSystems.pdf

Now obviously I haven't read the whole thing. It's 107 pages long and much of it is outside of my understanding.
There may be some who will find this interesting. Page 13 has a small bit about standing waves.

[Gambeir]

Hello Gambeir, Hello Turion,

Gambeir, that video of that UFO looks so "clean" to believe it is real...
Now, seriously, look it up again, doesn't it just lookalike an Upside-down Wheel cover?, seriously, it has Six(6) holes at center for six Wheel Studs, then Five(5) Air vents to cool off the brakes...
On Top, I see an Old 1950's GM Center Bubble Chromed Hubcap, I bet, if we could see the top, it will read "BUICK"...
Now, at center, note like a cut off center shaft...in CGI FX Effects, it is easy to cover the rest of the shaft with green tape, then film it with Alpha Background, also green...the sky is just a background 3D Layer added with "opacity" blend.
Learn Adobe After-effects, is awesome!!

Did not try to disappoint you guys at all!!, LOL, sorry!!


Ufopolitics

I don't disagree with what you say Ufopolitics: I can see all you say. Adobe I don't play with but I know a little GIMP and of course this is quite dated from 2015 making flaws easier to detect. However, you sneeked your post in before I got around to making a comment on this footage.

Someone once said that fakers are likely to be visited by men in black suits or worse. That statement was pretty bamboozling to me for a long time. Suppose though you knew something, had seen it and had some idea how it worked, or at least experienced what effects the device created such as vibrations. How would you, sworn to secrecy or otherwise placed in peril, go about trying to release what you did know?

What you say may be true but for other reasons I think it's worth looking at.

[Gambeir]

This video shown above was located through scriptural physics.
http://scripturalphysics.org/4v4a/AD...l#PiggottLinks

I had not seen this footage previously and scanned through the video before coming across this specific UFO. From what I can see this is a drone. Said by the observers to be about the size of an SUV. It appears to me be essentially an inverted bowl and using hypersonic sound waves for propulsion with some sort of fin like attachments around the lower edges which act as control flaps. In other words, looking at a still frame from 44:15 seems to show that the entire vehicle is almost entirely hollow/empty with the bowl acting as either a reflector or otherwise producing a coanada like effect. Of course it could be doing both.

In many ways this resembles Jean~Louis Naudin's Coanada effect flying saucer.
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/gfsuav/index.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/

Turion's post here on the Alexey Saucer might be cross applied in unconventional ways. Perhaps by employing microwave driven ultra sonic sound waves in some similar fashion as described in Turion's post.
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/...721#post498721

https://borderlandsciences.org/journ...n_Tesla_I.html

[Gambeir]

There is sooooo much we do not know, and that our "current" model of physics cannot explain.

"Given the large number of alternative possibilities, including many that are more likely than a parallel universe with anti-physics, more research is needed before any concrete conclusions can be made.
Our ruling: Partly false

We rate this claim PARTLY FALSE because it is mostly unsupported by our research. It is misleading to say that NASA has found a parallel universe. While it is true that the ANITA observations may prompt a revision of the Standard Model, it is false to claim that the existence of a parallel universe is the explanation for those observations. The studies referenced in several viral articles do not claim that a parallel universe with reverse physics was discovered either. While it is possible that our universe has a parallel “antiverse,” that is far from the clear explanation for the abnormal neutrinos."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...se/5254557002/

Yes, the purpose of this thread is to recognize how little we do know and then to recognize that what we know is not the same as what others know; the video shows a machine technology; We have a divided civilization which is unlike any other previous kind of division. This is God like enabling power. It is power far too dangerous to be placed in the hands of a few.

We must acknowledge that another parasite civilization now exists; where some have all knowledge. No other conclusion is possible. That's what that video shows. You are being watched, monitored, recorded, herded, and otherwise re~classified. To conclude anything else is be delusional. That is clearly a physical man made object using a propulsion system of as yet undetermined nature and that's all it is.

There will be no help from those whom do hold this knowledge. To think otherwise is insanity. To even think that a petition for "Disclosure" would do anything would be like the prisoners of Auschwitz petitioning Himmler for release. Unless we are able to ourselves solve this, then, our days as free human beings are numbered.

[Ufopolitics]

The "Truth"?
Yes, it is definitively there...
The "Good thing" is that we will find it ALL in "one", mean everything...
The "Bad Thing", They won't let you do it, why?, because it is NOT only about "Free Energy" and "Antigravity"...there is more to it, and yes, it could be very dangerous in the wrong hands.
You will need to "see" how Magnetic Fields will affect HV Electric Fields to make a "spin" out of a Straight "Accelerated Electron Beam"...generating a very nice 3D Spiral Effect...and that was just the "Elementary Class # 1"...


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Skip to 43:15 and freeze the frame. Two people filmed this at the same time. Really it's quite amazing how similar the underside is to the CARET Drones, and then it has a similarity to the Alexey.

Hello Gambeir, Hello Turion,

Gambeir, that video of that UFO looks so "clean" to believe it is real...
Now, seriously, look it up again, doesn't it just lookalike an Upside-down Wheel cover?, seriously, it has Six(6) holes at center for six Wheel Studs, then Five(5) Air vents to cool off the brakes...
On Top, I see an Old 1950's GM Center Bubble Chromed Hubcap, I bet, if we could see the top, it will read "BUICK"...
Now, at center, note like a cut off center shaft...in CGI FX Effects, it is easy to cover the rest of the shaft with green tape, then film it with Alpha Background, also green...the sky is just a background 3D Layer added with "opacity" blend.
Learn Adobe After-effects, is awesome!!

Did not try to disappoint you guys at all!!, LOL, sorry!!


Ufopolitics

[Turion]

There is sooooo much we do not know, and that our "current" model of physics cannot explain.

"Given the large number of alternative possibilities, including many that are more likely than a parallel universe with anti-physics, more research is needed before any concrete conclusions can be made.
Our ruling: Partly false

We rate this claim PARTLY FALSE because it is mostly unsupported by our research. It is misleading to say that NASA has found a parallel universe. While it is true that the ANITA observations may prompt a revision of the Standard Model, it is false to claim that the existence of a parallel universe is the explanation for those observations. The studies referenced in several viral articles do not claim that a parallel universe with reverse physics was discovered either. While it is possible that our universe has a parallel “antiverse,” that is far from the clear explanation for the abnormal neutrinos."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...se/5254557002/

[Gambeir]

Skip to 43:15 and freeze the frame. Two people filmed this at the same time. Really it's quite amazing how similar the underside is to the CARET Drones, and then it has a similarity to the Alexey.

[Gambeir]

Sorry for the delayed response.

Time as a measure of space/volume/distance to gage rate of change allows that a potential may exist for a way to alter biological rate of change. Maybe you can go back and retrieve youth, and who knows what the consequences for that would be, or if there would be any at all, but I'm much less sure about crossing time barriers to the past or future and here's my reasoning for thinking that might be a lot more difficult.

If we were to use the Schauberger wave plate for an analogy, and assume our time is inside a valley at a so called nodal point in a wave, then each peak represent time with intertia forming walls which retain us at specific nodal points, and since this is in reality a traveling wave moving outwards, then a position in time is fixed for each of us from birth to death by each peak which forms a partition of the wave. Thus, we are all individually moving constantly outwards being forced on a path from birth to death.

Now, as I understand the physics involved in a spinning plate, by using such an analogy as he Schauberger Wave Plate, then you should be able to move inwards and outwards in line from the center to the edge, but moving forwards or backwards would seem more difficult, but maybe not. If we could solve the first problem then we would have the time to resolve the second.