An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[lotec]

if you have the air around it ionized enough you will not get the sonic boom
or at least that is what I read long ago on research on how to get rid of sonic booms

They say it is electrical charges that stop things from passing thru each other when they collide. Then I think about certain situations where high voltage charge is present, like the Hutchinson effect and the Philadelphia experiment. Lack of gravity, things merging into each other..

[Gambeir]

Sorry but I keep getting an http 500 service error and have been unable to post.
Looks like the issue might now be solved.

[Gambeir]

Method for producing thrusts with "Mach" effects manipulated by alternating electromagnetic fields
Take a look at the images for this patent at the link.
https://www.google.com/patents/US200...blAYEQ6AEILTAB

Claims:
A method of producing thrust in an object without ejection of propellant.
A method of producing thrust in an object by inducing Mach effect mass fluctuations.

Abstract explanations.
"A “Mach” effect mass fluctuation is driven by applying a high voltage, high frequency electrical signal to capacitive circuit."

"At the same time applying a current signal of the same frequency to inductive circuit elements arranged so that the magnetic fields produced thereby thread the capacitors perpendicular to the electric fields between their plates."

"relative phase established between the electric and magnetic fields in the dielectric material between the plates of the capacitor, (a) Lorentz force acting on the lattice ions in the dielectric yields a net force."

"Net force is a consequence of the fact that in each cycle when the Lorentz force acts in one direction the effective masses of the ions are different from their effective masses in the parts of each cycle where lattice forces act to restore the initial configuration."

Woodward effect, also referred to as a Mach effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodward_effect

Woodwards' ideas for inertia as a cause and effect resulting from interaction with all other mass in the universe fits in well with the idea that something (undetectable exhibiting a superfluidity like behavior) fills space and connects all matter to each other. Here referring back to Kapitzas' Spider as a demonstration of this unseen, otherwise undetectable substance; the all penetrating fluid of space as it were.

https://academy.resonance.is/the-mach-effect/
" one particular theory that does offer an explanation for the genesis of inertia, and it is known as Mach's principle. In effect, Mach's principle states that the source of an object's inertia is from all of the other matter in the universe. Inertia is another name for mass. It is the property of a body that makes it resist acceleration."

[Gambeir]

They say it is electrical charges that stop things from passing thru each other when they collide. Then I think about certain situations where high voltage charge is present, like the Hutchinson effect and the Philadelphia experiment. Lack of gravity, things merging into each other..

The Philadelphia experiment has a number of things going on which fit in with what we now know.

In the story we have an entire ship sitting in a dielectric medium. It's hull is arc welded together using a newly developed process which adds bismuth to the welding rods. It's the bismuth which is the important part to the story. Then the whole thing is wrapped in heavy cables and then they pump a huge amount of electrical energy into the cables. At least that's what I understand. At the same time this is going on, the same ship is being bombarded with microwaves which is radar, and this is in addition to the now supposedly super-charged degaussing coils, whose original intent is to make the whole ship non magnetic.

Now I just don't know enough about radar (microwaves) but it seems to reason that the idea was that if they could make mines blind to the ship, then it stands to reason that they could thus make radar blind to it was well by eliminating it's magnetic field from detection by radar. Next thing you know it's bingo, bongo, el-torito's and they vanish from the here and now...or something like that.

It would appear that if you eliminate the magnetic field from matter it can have some dramatic effects; especially when bombarded by microwaves.
Sort of all makes sense that if you eliminate the magnetic field then matter can be moved in time and space. Appears to be saying that it's related
to mass removal as in the Woodward effect and by some active monkeying they hit upon the right combination for it all to go sideways on them.

If there's truth in this story then it looks like they were privy to some of the Germans work in the forest of Poland with that ring thingy, an the Philadelphia experiment seems to have been an attempt to replicate the Nazi experiments which Igor Witkowski and Nick Cook called "the flytrap" but doing it on the cheap. Considering how much this is all related back and forth, how the main themes of operation and materials are the same, it's difficult to not see that the Philadelphia Experiment has all the same important critical parts of technology involved. Seems increasingly unlikely that the story is a complete fabrication, or it is a story forwarded, once more, by people whom are trying to make us aware in the only ways or avenues that are open to them; crop circles, supposed lunatics (Adamski), and stories marketed as science fiction.

[spacecase0]

Method for producing thrusts with "Mach" effects manipulated by alternating electromagnetic fields
Take a look at the images for this patent at the link.
https://www.google.com/patents/US200...blAYEQ6AEILTAB

Claims:
A method of producing thrust in an object without ejection of propellant.
A method of producing thrust in an object by inducing Mach effect mass fluctuations.

Abstract explanations.
"A “Mach” effect mass fluctuation is driven by applying a high voltage, high frequency electrical signal to capacitive circuit."

"At the same time applying a current signal of the same frequency to inductive circuit elements arranged so that the magnetic fields produced thereby thread the capacitors perpendicular to the electric fields between their plates."

"relative phase established between the electric and magnetic fields in the dielectric material between the plates of the capacitor, (a) Lorentz force acting on the lattice ions in the dielectric yields a net force."

"Net force is a consequence of the fact that in each cycle when the Lorentz force acts in one direction the effective masses of the ions are different from their effective masses in the parts of each cycle where lattice forces act to restore the initial configuration."

Woodward effect, also referred to as a Mach effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodward_effect

Woodwards' ideas for inertia as a cause and effect resulting from interaction with all other mass in the universe fits in well with the idea that something (undetectable exhibiting a superfluidity like behavior) fills space and connects all matter to each other. Here referring back to Kapitzas' Spider as a demonstration of this unseen, otherwise undetectable substance; the all penetrating fluid of space as it were.

https://academy.resonance.is/the-mach-effect/
" one particular theory that does offer an explanation for the genesis of inertia, and it is known as Mach's principle. In effect, Mach's principle states that the source of an object's inertia is from all of the other matter in the universe. Inertia is another name for mass. It is the property of a body that makes it resist acceleration."

if that is all correct and it works,
then the fluxliner might be the direct current version.

[Gambeir]

if that is all correct and it works,
then the fluxliner might be the direct current version.

It seems Woodward's effect/Mach's effect is pretty well established; It's because of things like Wikipedia saying it isn't proven that there's doubt, but that's just not so: Looking back on posts #153/154 links to other papers citing the effect. It seems to be commonly enough cited in scientific white papers. As a result, I think we can now conclude that a capacitor can generate a loss of mass. This and potential power production explain their reason for being in this machine.

*The reason I'm leaning for loss of mass is the vanishing act of UFO's. Just a gut level feeling here. You notice that others aren't saying loss of mass in their explanations. Instead they are talking about propulsive forces and basically ignoring Woodward/Mach Effect; verboten science.

On one level we have now deduced why the quartz capacitors are a part of this machine. They might also be involved in producing power. So far, what I gather is that you all think these capacitors are being charged from a high voltage source.

Anyhow, I've been going over the thread and trying to put pieces together which would enable a drawing for a model. Not a complex one, but more complex and advanced than has previously been done. I think if we could begin putting together some sketches (simplified ideas) that those will help a lot to refine this down to greater detail where tests might be possible.

[Gambeir]

if that is all correct and it works,
then the fluxliner might be the direct current version.

John Iwaszko does say it is a direct current at about the *8:30 mark
in the conclusion to his video on Vacuum Polarization.

"The high voltage direct current, on a plate capacitor, appears to transform an electric field in to a gravitational field."
John Iwaszko

"Antigravity" Method 3b of 15, Vacuum Polarization- (Biefeld Brown effect),Group IB(ii)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIcq6QEJ2os

[Gambeir]

Excuse this extremely poor rendering, but I wanted to post this idea with the intention that others will pick up on the concept.
Maybe I was slightly tired...a little trouble with the spelling evidently.

*Notice how this looks like a Telsa device.
I was thinking about Marklund convection currents.
I'm also attempting to reach John Iwaszko for his thoughts or contributions.

[ET-Power]

for a while I researched reports of broken UFOs
one tells of a craft that was having issues flying, it wrecked shortly after being spotted leaking.
and it was leaking pure molten nickle
so it could just be that mercury is useful here because it is a metal that is liquid at our room temps.

Somehow I missed this post before.

This is highly intriguing, greatly appreciated SpaceCase!

[ET-Power]

All caught up

Just got all caught up in detail of all the postings.

Gambier, thanks for starting this thread!

Thanks to all who are contributing and sharing for the greater knowledge of us all.

Getting closer, but still a a few months away from the Newman Helium Replication. Need to complete the project at hand, then invest funds into the Newman Helium Electromagnet Craft.

All the very best to you all!

[Gambeir]

Lets review this free energy from the vacuum business. We already know there's plenty of energy around us in the form of charged ions in the atmosphere. I posted a link on that back on page one, post #12 which links to Ion Power Groups.
https://ionpowergroup.com/how-it-works-on-earth/

The ways used to capture these ions have involved long lines of carbon/graphite/graphene and suspended from either tall poles or by dangling from balloons.

Quote;
"Ion collectors can be composed of carbon/graphite/graphene, while not metallic, are electrically conductive, flexible and durable. Electric fields are known to coalesce at conductive points known as the “Corona Effect”. The solution of Poisson’s equation to determine electric field intensity around the collectors shows us that the highest electric fields will be around sharp points; the sharper the point, the greater the electric field. Ion collectors offer millions of microscopic electrically conductive points and protrusions which readily couple to the electric fields of near-Earth ions transferring high-voltage electricity from the atmospheric ions to the ion collectors."

Atmospheric voltage increases about 90-150vdc per meter of altitude.

Now refer back to the early on posts in this thread about tornado's and dust devils. Point is, all we have to do is put a dust devil inside a can and make it a closed system. Man made dust particles made from these same materials as cited by Ion Power Groups will collect the charged ions and then these particles can themselves be collected to pass the charge on for collection: That's the basic idea I'm trying to pass on. We can use nano-particles instead of dust and do what nature does naturally; but do it in a closed system. That's all the drawing is trying to communicate. Hopefully someone somewhere's, probably living in Iran, Cuba, or India but possibly China as well, but one of those for sure will see the light and try to rip off the whole idea by coming out with some kind of portable energy station.

We here are jumping over dollars to pick up pennies: The homework has already been done and proven by Ion Power Systems. All that's needed is re-think the gathering methodology of collecting atmospheric charged ions. Instead of burning up fuel this system is essentially collecting the fuel out of thin air. In a way this is essentially recycling the fuel (air molecules/ions) back into the atmosphere for recharging and subesquent reuse without harming anything.


The same sort of re-invention thing has taken place with underwater breathing. IsraCast: Like a fish - underwater breathing system

Ion Power Groups shows it doesn't take much altitude to make significant increases in power. All we got to do is whip this capacitor thingy and we can all have floating homes and yards. They is going to have a hell of a time collecting taxes on people whom just float off whenever they please. Oh Lordy, that's gonna piss em off.

[Gambeir]

Accidental occurence's like the development of graphene just do not happen accidentally. Its' origins as an "Enabling Technology." can now be traced far back in time; 75 years old near as I can tell. Graphite itself being used as an additive to rubber applications attempting to defeat early radar with primitive methods. Here's another one, this one is now over a half century old and was called "Dilithium Crystals" on Star Trek. "The fusion fuel we're focusing on is deuterium [a stable isotope of hydrogen] and Li6 [a stable isotope of the metal lithium] in a crystal structure.That's basically dilithium crystals we're using,"
Newest Fusion Engine Is Powered On Star Trek Like Dilithium Crystals - Business Insider

The implication is that fusion engines already exist because how else do you explain the use of this specific term from an obscure science fiction TV program done in the 1960's? What, a lucky strike?
Again...


So ya know I've been trading a few thoughts with others on a power generation system and I've considered a number of ideas, like flaying wheels of graphite fibers attached to wheels like car washing machines, but as simple as those may be to create, I'm thinking more about how to build a graphite/carbon dust devil in a can, or dirt devil, or tornado, or whatever you want to call it, but surprise, surprise, the powers that be have already been there so to speak. Now naturally they are careful to avoid giving you ideas about vacuuming up energy. Instead they talk about farming, or fishing for energy; like a hook and line is the only option, like nets don't exist, a vacuuming system using artificial full strength dust might be somewhat like having your very own dirt devil in a can, or like that idea is similar to a fishes gills passing water through them to collect the oxygen. They never mention any ideas like that of course. Instead we have to outlaw balloons, drones, model planes because how else could they control the use of this free energy?
https://ionpowergroup.com/how-it-works-on-mars/


On February 10th 2016, Senior Scientist of Atmospheric Physics Dr. Andreas J .G. Baumgaertner PhD published a technical report titled ‘Power to Mars’.
PDF download link
https://zenodo.org/record/1045600#.Wht34lWnHX5


Marian Dust Devils and Free Energy.
"Dust storms occurring on Mars generate strong electrical fields that propagate throughout the Martian atmosphere conveyed by the ions constantly present in the atmosphere. Dust storms can cover large regions of the planet blotting out the sun and can persist for days or weeks. Because the ion-filled Martian atmosphere is electrically conductive, electricity generated by remote dust storms elsewhere on the planet is permitted to propagate throughout the Martian atmosphere. NASA Scientist, Michael Smith, who works at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center told Space.com “The dust is electrostatic, like foam peanuts.” In an interview with NewScientist.com, Brian Jackson with the Physics Department at Boise State University says “It’s possible that all of the dust grains clattering together in these storms could produce a lot of electricity…”
https://www.newscientist.com/article...ils-every-day/

Hmm...so because there's all this dust in the air it's basically like a giant electrical outlet. Almost like chemtrails might have some ulterior design..
Oh well, probably nothing to that idea huh?

Now of course there's never going to be any suggestion about individuals having self sustaining energy harvesting devices. Everything is planned out to keep control over power generation in the hands of self appointed masters. If you want to change that you're going to have create it yourself so we need something doable.

Graphite and carbon are readily available to anyone. Circulation and control technology is doable with the introduction of bagless vacuum cleaners. Storage systems are also now capable of handing large amounts of energy: We have off the shelf tools already to enable people to experiment with ion energy harvesting.

For example;
A Graphene Supercapacitor is able to store 10,000 times more electricity than an ordinary electrolytic capacitor.
https://ionpowergroup.com/how-it-works-on-mars/

Graphite isn't really something I need to tell you about if you've ever picked up a pencil, and the vacuum system? Thanks Dyson for your 14 year battle to get a patent on your vortex based filter system; sort of explains why they didn't want to give you those rights since they were already using them most likely.

[Gambeir]

As near as I can determine there are only four possible sources for power to the ARV which could fit the bill: Nuclear, Telsa Coil like device, Ion collector system, or an alternative means of accessing Counterspace. I have completely discounted nuclear because it's basically not doable at our level, or is insanely dangerous pretty much at every level, and so this leaves various alternative means for each of the remaining possible power systems.

In the ion collection system, which is where I first began and have returned, the idea of collecting ions via a closed dirt devil in a can system has been proposed. That system is doable but complex. It would involve using the best vacuum technology for collection of ions and for collection and recycling of conductive dust particles used in such a system. The Dyson Vacuum Technology has progressively moved forward and now is capable of filtering almost microscopic levels of dust. It's light years ahead really. In a proposed dust devil in a can you're going to be moving large amounts of air whilst feeding a steady stream of ion gathering dust into the intake. This dust picks up the ion charges introduced with fresh outside air, and whose ion charges are subsequently passed on by attraction to respective collection point. Once discharged the conductive dust must then be collected and feed back in to the inflow of the intake air stream to once again repeat the cycle.

However, on I reflection I have to ask if such a complex system is needed? I've been thinking about the collection of ions and the methods used so far. Here I provide a simple sketch showing possible alternatives to the complex dust devil in can concept, and which show that it might be possible to collect enough energy from the atmosphere by using tubes flocked with a conductive material such as carbon or other carbon based fibers like graphene or ordinary graphite I'd imagine.

It's a natural that this form of ion energy collection could be adapted right now to electric jets systems for modelers, for planned electric jets (that's your kids planned future in Jet Engine Technology don't ya know), and or adapted for any number of simple home power energy gathering devices which presently are using wind power/solar power. *As a side note; when this idea of carbon/graphite flocked tubes hit me I was thinking about fiber optics, and while trying to imagine a dust devil in a can power station while holding a pencil to sketch out such a system, well once I'd thought of the flocked tubes and done a sketch of the tubes it became obvious how simple this energy gathering system might well be, and yet again I couldn't help but notice how much this resembles a JOE CELL: Almost makes me feel like a cheater: Makes ya wonder is all because it seems to be a repeating motif in energy systems.

[Gambeir]

In talking with Spacecase0 about these energy gathering concepts I'm passing these ideas and links on for those whom may want to experiment. The first thing is making an electrically conductive adhesive. Youtube has a number of video's on home made electrically conductive gule as well. The conductive component can be silver, copper or graphite. Other conductive materials are possible but unusual. The sticky component can be a varnish (of one component) or a synthetic resin (of one or two components).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electr...ctive_adhesive

Bear in mind here that carbon/graphite is up to 55 times more efficient at gathering energy from ions over any metals including gold and silver.
No metal is anywhere close when it comes to collecting charges from ions. Since this is the idea I'd probably lean towards pencil lead or something along those lines as the conductive additive to my homemade glue. I realize this is probably depressing since you all were hoping to have to buy gold coated nano balls or something equally exotic. However, on the upside of that, now's a good time to begin talking a lot about dirt and vacuum cleaners to your significant other, personally I'd probably be pushing Dyson Vacuums , but hey it's a free world right? Anyways, it's not so much the vacuum itself as it is probably the ability to personally and deeply inspect this strange and mysterious device. Reason being, that very fine particles must be continually introduced in to the inflow and then passed through an electrical charge exchanger, and then on to a collection and re-introduction point.

I'm working on a sketch for the dust devil in a can concept and while incorporating what I think I understand about tornado's to produce a general working concept for visualization of such a system; anyone interested may extrapolate their own ideas is what I'm hoping. Generally speaking, you will probably want to have ion gathering particles moving at high speeds. A vacuum system is going to be the power source for the reaction/movement of particles. There's a reason for this as opposed to having fans pushing particles: I realize a vacuums' vacuum is actually created by a fan.

Any space borne vehicle would benefit from a vacuum powered ion gathering system. The higher the vehicle goes, the more free vacuum energy is available until it reaches a point where the free vacuum of space can itself freely power this same system.

An energy production experiment might want to use ion gathering particles passing through a tube which is coated with the same particles. This would be a sort of a poor mans attempt to produce something akin to an electron avalanche in order to enhance the ion charges freeing up more energy.

In a tornado you would have particles flowing directly against one another at high speeds. Tornado vortex's are in counter flows; one going upwards and the other downwards. Here we have one flowing and one static, but hey...we are trying right?

I see this concept as having a couple stages involved in order to try to draw as much energy out of the atmosphere as possible. Now if anyone out there in the wilds is actually messing about, then you know you're getting close if you begin to see any corona developing inside or around about your experiment as the air becomes electrified. This tells you that you should be getting a lot of energy being exchanged between the atmospheric ions and the pickup tube.

[Gambeir]

This thread isn't dead. I will continue to make posts when I think I have something worth mentioning.

I find myself going back to the beginning of this thread in many ways, and the reason has to do with the history of Weather Control because so much in that is tied to the same ideas of ionizing the atmosphere.

Look here for a whole lot more.
https://sincedutch.wordpress.com/201...r-here-you-go/


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbLf9ZB_Hbo[/VIDEO]
https://sincedutch.wordpress.com/201...r-here-you-go/
The above video shows that indeed microwaves can induce tornado like affects. However in this video the microwaves are used to heat a metal plate at the top of this glass beaker, thus the tornado is explained through conventional meteorological models.

Assuming that early machines having these half round sphere's beneath them are containing microwaves, and that the Barbury Crop Circle and experiments of Chris Hardeman seem to validate, then this seems to imply that microwaves might be used to accelerate a magnetic field in to a vortex to produce a tornado, and which could then be used to create a magnetically repulsive vortex field: Speculating here of course.
The Gravity Shielding Experiment from Chris Hardeman

I just don't know enough yet but if someone out there is messing around they might try to see if they can get a demonstration of a magnetic field vortex by applying a microwave beam on a magnetic field. We know there is an association here with microwaves and vortex energy as these have a history in Ufology.

I would think that if there were magnetic particles placed below but beyond the field of the magnet, that if a microwave beam can induce a magnetic field vortex (vortex would have be in the right direction) that the magnetic particles out of normal reach of the field would begin to move around in a swirling pattern once the vortex takes place: Speculating here.

I wish I could say I've tried these experiments but I haven't the space or resources to do so right now.