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  • Originally posted by bistander View Post
    What is magnet-beam?
    Magnet and beam positioning, angle related or parallel in face to face.
    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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    • Originally posted by bistander View Post
      Please tell me what 2 forces and what B Field theory.

      Thanks in advance,

      bi

      Sorry, meant flux directions on your ing.
      B Field or magnetic field vector one way N to S.
      Classic Theory

      Got to go

      Regards


      Ufopolitics
      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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      • Field of Influence

        Originally posted by Gambeir View Post


        @ UFO & Bistander, discuss the thread topic.

        @ The rest,
        Stan Deyo (and I can’t really say any of his info is 100% valid) but he mentions one principal of (Magneto Hydro Dynamic) MHD fluid. (I’ll have to find the links to the clips I mean).

        The so called Nazi Bell was also meant to have some kind of a conductive fluid in its construction, some kind of mercury-alloy or similar conductive fluid.

        The ARV video shows a central cylinder with counter rotating parts. I think the flat rotating disk is like a large Faraday or homopolar generator as the video mentions.

        I think the faraday generator creates the massive magnetic currents needed to drive the MHD fluid within the central cylinder. When you pass a large current through a conductive fluid and within a magnetic field it spins. - A MHD fluid spins, but it actually has counter rotating spin. The inner part will turn one way and the outer parts the opposite direction. There may be developed a third and fourth counter rotating parts or shells, as seen on the north pole of the planet Saturn…

        Just speculating, I think there must be some kind of interaction between the counter-rotating components (magnetic currents) formed within central cylinder, which creates its own “field of influence” - (A charge of sorts that alters the nucleus position within each atom within its field of influence). - The lower part, the capacitive (discharge) segments provide either an electrical / magnetic distortion or some other kind of interaction with the counter rotating currents created “field of influence” in order to direct the created field, thus the craft and its occupants one way or another.
        Last edited by Sputins; 03-07-2018, 02:47 AM.
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        • Once you mess with a crt using a magnet you alter the sensitive dynamics,
          the phosphor, the deflection plates, electrostatic fields change, the scanning goes wacko and requires degaussing.
          Some crt's will degauss when you power it up.

          It is interesting and has merit for strangeness behavior that ions have
          with magnets. The four deflection plates might be disconnected and see
          what effect it has. Using either raster or vector mode. It is just a difficult project.
          it is not complete yet UFO but you might get there and that would really be something.

          Mario Bros game
          https://youtu.be/EOyKuQf36TI

          I remember olive oil on microscope slide prepared this way.
          I recall the natural living Magnetotactic bacteria was very interesting.
          https://youtu.be/x8zEWJzglN0

          I do appreciate experiments with vortex/ here a rodin ferro fluid experiment.
          things to look for. how many cones, how big, where do they point, the shiny
          spherical shapes. hole in the center like helical coil unlike most torus.
          it is only matter of time before we understand flux enough to do more crazy things.
          This experiment is not complete but it is also getting there.
          https://youtu.be/Q4YgCy0EWKs
          Last edited by mikrovolt; 03-07-2018, 05:25 AM.

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          • Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
            Once you mess with a crt using a magnet you alter the sensitive dynamics,
            the phosphor, the deflection plates, electrostatic fields change, the scanning goes wacko and requires degaussing.
            Some crt's will degauss when you power it up.

            It is interesting and has merit for strangeness behavior that ions have
            with magnets. The four deflection plates might be disconnected and see
            what effect it has. Using either raster or vector mode. It is just a difficult project.
            it is not complete yet UFO but you might get there and that would really be something.

            Mario Bros game
            https://youtu.be/EOyKuQf36TI

            I remember olive oil on microscope slide prepared this way.
            I recall the natural living Magnetotactic bacteria was very interesting.
            https://youtu.be/x8zEWJzglN0

            I do appreciate experiments with vortex/ here a rodin ferro fluid experiment.
            things to look for. how many cones, how big, where do they point, the shiny
            spherical shapes. hole in the center like helical coil unlike most torus.
            it is only matter of time before we understand flux enough to do more crazy things.
            This experiment is not complete but it is also getting there.
            https://youtu.be/Q4YgCy0EWKs

            Mikrovolt,

            The CRT'S am using (all) are not Electric Field deflected(driven) but Magnetic Field (coils)

            So, no deflect plates but coils...

            What am creating is a PLANE which projects on screen as a flat, horizontal line...so, no full screen, no 3 guns RGB....no messing sensitive dynamics, etc..Therefore, no need to degauss.

            This plane gets twisted (torsion) by outer field being tested, influences...

            Not much really to its technical operation ...however, reveals its 3D geometries...PLUS Dynamics.

            In my list to experiment is an Electric Field driven CRT...nut they are not easy to find... the contrary to a 12v B&W TV...they are still around.


            Regards



            Ufopolitics
            Last edited by Ufopolitics; 03-07-2018, 05:39 PM.
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            • Dear fellow forum members, thank you all for keeping this thread active whilst I'm engaged right now in a constructive effort with John R Iwaszko. Mr. Iwaszko is corresponding with me on this topic. I would like to say it's a combined effort, which John insists it is, but ....well who am I anyways, I do what I can without causing too many problems is about the size of it. I believe Mr. Iwaszko is the leading expert on the topic of anti-gravity because his work has been demonstrated with empirical testing, producing physical proofs, and which we can see and replicate ourselves.
              Antigravity-The_Reality


              I am indebted to a great mind. Please continue the debate, for regardless of what manifests as truth, whatever the outcome, there is little doubt that it will not be without purpose or use. Even things which later prove false or incorrect still have value.

              I think that the principle of operation behind this machine and others is deceptively simple but complex in execution. I also feel or sense that the fundamentals are in this thread. They are inside the posts which have been made by myself and by others, and without which I would not be able to say all the information is here right now, but I believe it is all here now.

              It takes a liberated mind to see what is before us and it has been my personal experience that long stretches of free time, employed or not, tend to create an ethos of liberated thinking. Abraham Lincoln actually gave a speech about mind control citing the entertainment industry and mass media which he believed was being funded by external sources, and which creates a form of mind control by filtering our thought and ideas through the information provided by mass propaganda. Now of course Lincoln didn't use those words of course, but nevertheless that's what he was talking about.

              So the idea is we are not seeing what is in front of us. Most of us are working off information provided to us. We need to discount that information which is intentionally placed because it is used to corral our thinking and thus our ideas.

              Breaking out of the mental prisons isn't something that takes place the moment you say I'm inside a mental prison. It takes a long time to begin to see where you're ideas are coming into conflict with the manufactured reality, and my experience is that independence brought on by self employment or unenjoyment can produce those conflicts. Once these take hold you begin to dismiss a lot of things and it snowballs.

              I've been through extended periods of freedom myself a couple times in my own life. Some self imposed and others not. Honestly it seems like it takes at least three years before you're really beginning to have dangerous alternative thinking. My first real experience with that was using my savings to do something I wanted since I was a child and I took five years off to do that. I would have continued but ran out of money: Poor planning I know, but bank robbery and drug dealing are not my vocation so I was forced to rejoin conventional society.

              My point here is that there's a lot of intelligent people here, but that can only carry you so far: So much of our own thinking is working against success, and so no one should ever feel like a fool just because they later may be proven wrong. The system works to lead you into dead ends so that it can provide the next answer, and which is intended to keep you corralled by believing it was your fault for not believing what you're told. You know this is true because there's "Flying Triangles and Black Holes on My Fridge."
              Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge

              This means they have the answer and what is going on is that primitive and early machines like the one suggested in the McCandlish illustration are now greatly evolved and will be explained with the new science of quantum electrodynamics. Again, you must obey. Understand?

              I'm still unconvinced that the entire field of quantum particles isn't a criminally designed construct, employing key parts of otherwise understood interactions coming down to us through past theories but whose knowledge isn't described as conventional science, but I'm just some clown scribbling away: So if there is a fool, well it's me on all accounts.
              Last edited by Gambeir; 03-12-2018, 12:31 AM.
              "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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              • I'm beginning to think that the debate about whether or not a magnetic flux is rotating is one of semantics.

                We can see the magnetic fields overall pattern in 3 dimensions: For the field to exist, to have shape and form, then it must move to create that form. The form suggests flow and the material itself suggests superfluidity which is known to freely move up walls and through nearly any substance. Everything about the nature of the magnetic field shows that it is exhibiting superfluid like behavior.

                Logic says that the magnetic field flows much like a liquid because it's intensity can be regulated as a product of the crystalline patterns and alignments of the molecular structure of magnetic materials. An analogy would be a series of valves which control the rate of flow.

                When these connections are not correct then no magnetic field exists, when they become increasing aligned, then greater and greater field strength manifests. Again, suggesting that the magnetic flux has superfluidity specific to geometrical arrangements. The cross correlation would be that of how an electric charge is generated when a conductor moves through a magnetic flux. Whereas here, the superfluidity of the magnetic field is moving through geometrical patterns. Understand~?

                A comparative relationship between the interaction which takes place between the geometrical arrangements of crystalline formations within substances, and the subsequent outcome magnetically, could be compared to what takes place when a conductor moves through a magnetic field, and or less well thought; when a magnetic field moves or passes across or near a conductor, and wherein the end result is a product. In other words, a net product is the result of interactions with correlations to the geometry of intersecting energies at right angles.

                Just as a conductor can move through a magnetic field, so too can a magnetic object mover over a conductor. A substance must move through and along the lines which define the inner molecular structure of matter in order for the magnetic field to be produced. What isn't required is the input of electrical energy. The magnetic field is not a byproduct of electrical charges, proven by the flows from the organized geometry of crystalline formations which are found in magnets: Suggesting that magnetism is produced from space itself which is all around us, and this space is therefore superfluid, and that this fluid follows laws which are similar to existing laws defining the production of electromagnetism.
                Last edited by Gambeir; 03-14-2018, 02:09 AM.
                "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                • Originally posted by Sputins View Post
                  @ UFO & Bistander, discuss the thread topic.

                  @ The rest,
                  Stan Deyo (and I can’t really say any of his info is 100% valid) but he mentions one principal of (Magneto Hydro Dynamic) MHD fluid. (I’ll have to find the links to the clips I mean).

                  The so called Nazi Bell was also meant to have some kind of a conductive fluid in its construction, some kind of mercury-alloy or similar conductive fluid.

                  The ARV video shows a central cylinder with counter rotating parts. I think the flat rotating disk is like a large Faraday or homopolar generator as the video mentions.

                  I think the faraday generator creates the massive magnetic currents needed to drive the MHD fluid within the central cylinder. When you pass a large current through a conductive fluid and within a magnetic field it spins. - A MHD fluid spins, but it actually has counter rotating spin. The inner part will turn one way and the outer parts the opposite direction. There may be developed a third and fourth counter rotating parts or shells, as seen on the north pole of the planet Saturn…

                  Just speculating, I think there must be some kind of interaction between the counter-rotating components (magnetic currents) formed within central cylinder, which creates its own “field of influence” - (A charge of sorts that alters the nucleus position within each atom within its field of influence). - The lower part, the capacitive (discharge) segments provide either an electrical / magnetic distortion or some other kind of interaction with the counter rotating currents created “field of influence” in order to direct the created field, thus the craft and its occupants one way or another.
                  Well imagine you have no idea how a jet motor works, yet your the head of army air intelligence and you've just gotten some gun camera images of an airplane without propellers zipping by mustangs, B-17's, and B-24 Liberators.

                  Your job is to brief the President and Joint Chiefs what the enemy is using for power and everyone is clueless. Your only clues come from informants whom have risked life and limb to eke out that the machine is using air pushed out the backsides of tubes attached to the wings.

                  That's about as much information as we have when looking at the ARV illustration. Mr. McCandlish has provided all he knows and has since acquired freely.

                  Really though the analogy isn't even close because jet motors had been known in various forms, so there was never any doubt about what was driving a Messerschmitt 262, nor a Messerschmitt 163 rocket powered interceptor.

                  The allies didn't grock swept wing technology, a critical element since aircraft were already beginning to encounter compressibility, and this was evidenced by their continued failure to comprehend the importance of this feature in high speed aircraft design for a significant amount of time after the fall of the Third Reich. It wasn't until much later that the full realization of what was involved was realized in this area.

                  Thus there were two critical elements to the technology, jet and rocket motors, and swept wing technology. The Germans, lacking high speed wind tunnels, adapted by employing test models (carved wooden models) towed in a pool of water.

                  We are going to have be creative.
                  "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                  • Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
                    Well imagine you have no idea how a jet motor works, yet your the head of army air intelligence and you've just gotten some gun camera images of an airplane without propellers zipping by mustangs, B-17's, and B-24 Liberators.

                    Your job is to brief the President and Joint Chiefs what the enemy is using for power and everyone is clueless. Your only clues come from informants whom have risked life and limb to eke out that the machine is using air pushed out the backsides of tubes attached to the wings.

                    That's about as much information as we have when looking at the ARV illustration. Mr. McCandlish has provided all he knows and has since acquired freely.

                    Really though the analogy isn't even close because jet motors had been known in various forms, so there was never any doubt about what was driving a Messerschmitt 262, nor a Messerschmitt 163 rocket powered interceptor.

                    The allies didn't grock swept wing technology, a critical element since aircraft were already beginning to encounter compressibility, and this was evidenced by their continued failure to comprehend the importance of this feature in high speed aircraft design for a significant amount of time after the fall of the Third Reich. It wasn't until much later that the full realization of what was involved was realized in this area.

                    Thus there were two critical elements to the technology, jet and rocket motors, and swept wing technology. The Germans, lacking high speed wind tunnels, adapted by employing test models (carved wooden models) towed in a pool of water.

                    We are going to have be creative.
                    I wonder who the equivalent of the Wright Brothers were? Who discovered the underling principal of physics and operation or the ARV? - Perhaps no human, as it is said the technology was a gift of exchange? The “A” in ARV? – Or perhaps N.Tesla helped to discover the working principal or some other unknown team of German engineers?

                    So yes, to understand the underling principal of operation, creativity, improvisation and the possibility of letting go of certain established ideas of instituted physics is required.

                    It has also been noted that for certain reasons these craft are not made with the concepts of the standard airplane. The frames are not necessarily made from light-weight materials, but rather a more heavy a duty construction, like submarine hulls and the Bell was meant to be made partly of concrete.

                    Here we have Joe. - A man that knows nothing about physics as it’s taught in school and he invented the JoeCell which enabled a car engine to run on the principal of “condensed rain”. Via the use of a water-cell-capacitor-like device, with unknown electrics and Joe’s methods of alchemy… - the device was said to “strip electrons off” of the metallic structure of the vehicle itself. - The device, the water gas, the field or the electric charge from it, changed the magnetic interaction of the vehicle upon the Earth. In some instances the occupants said there was a sense of inertia dampening around corners and in rare cases vehicles were said to have levitated off the ground slightly.

                    – A very strange and somewhat unbelievable account, but it is ONE reported account of a heavy vehicle like a car or tractor levitating on planet earth, due to the influence of some added technology.

                    Joe on the Levitating Car:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv-yEX_QPBw

                    It’s hardly an answer as to how the ARV works, but yet again looking for and collecting clues, it is another puzzle piece…
                    Last edited by Sputins; 03-15-2018, 12:54 AM.
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                    • Originally posted by Sputins View Post
                      I wonder who the equivalent of the Wright Brothers were? Who discovered the underling principal of physics and operation or the ARV? - Perhaps no human, as it is said the technology was a gift of exchange? The “A” in ARV? – Or perhaps N.Tesla helped to discover the working principal or some other unknown team of German engineers?

                      So yes, to understand the underling principal of operation, creativity, improvisation and the possibility of letting go of certain established ideas of instituted physics is required.

                      It has also been noted that for certain reasons these craft are not made with the concepts of the standard airplane. The frames are not necessarily made from light-weight materials, but rather a more heavy a duty construction, like submarine hulls and the Bell was meant to be made partly of concrete.

                      Here we have Joe. - A man that knows nothing about physics as it’s taught in school and he invented the JoeCell which enabled a car engine to run on the principal of “condensed rain”. Via the use of a water-cell-capacitor-like device, with unknown electrics and Joe’s methods of alchemy… - the device was said to “strip electrons off” of the metallic structure of the vehicle itself. - The device, the water gas, the field or the electric charge from it, changed the magnetic interaction of the vehicle upon the Earth. In some instances the occupants said there was a sense of inertia dampening around corners and in rare cases vehicles were said to have levitated off the ground slightly.

                      – A very strange and somewhat unbelievable account, but it is ONE reported account of a heavy vehicle like a car or tractor levitating on planet earth, due to the influence of some added technology.

                      Joe on the Levitating Car:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv-yEX_QPBw

                      It’s hardly an answer as to how the ARV works, but yet again looking for and collecting clues, it is another puzzle piece…
                      Hi Sputins, sorry it's been so long getting back to you. I've been occupied working in cooperation with John Iwasko and which has and is taking most of my free time.
                      Most ideas underlying the ARV seem to be fairly old; dating from the 1950's through the early 1960's, with other theoretical work that supports these ideas dating from far earlier, some before the turn of the last century. It's somewhat unclear whom may have actually originated actual work on an experimental machine first. All though what I think also follows the propaganda of our own time about the Nazi Scientists, but it is also probably true that ideas behind an anti~gravity machine can be linked to German experimental work through their own work in Wuderwaffe, or miracle weapons, which includes works of all kinds. The list is mind boggling really, but obviously would include work in thermodynamics, rocketry, guidance systems, radar technology, and high/hyper speed aerospace planes and missiles, atomic bombs, and so on.

                      One reason the Nazi Scientist make more sense is their method of operation in war research. Of all the systems across the world theirs might have made the most sense given the circumstances. For example, rather than have a military dictator over seeing the affairs of brilliant people, and whom was inferior, the Germans just made ranking officers of their own war critical scientists. Ultimately they had to answer for their works right? Whereas, the Soviet Scientists labored under the edicts of an insane and crazed lunatic, whom routinely signed execution orders for thousands before going to bed. Stalin ruled with an uncontrolled terrorists organization posing as policeman, and whom punished failure with sentences to the gulag or worse, whilst his so called state security went about looting, raping, and murdering with free abandon.

                      The American Scientists utilized a broken system of competition back then, just as they still do today, and which pitted one design team against another, all having to do with making money; this while men died on the battle field and their lives, homes, and families were at risk. Meanwhile in Japan, the primitive state of industrialization was mind bendingly backwards with dirt floors persisting in factories up into the 1960's (*see for example "The Reckoning" by David Hablerstam). Although brilliant and ingenious as any other, they too were ham strung by a dictator system of crazed nut jobs strutting about with swords and knee high leather boots, not to mention a billion other incidentals that would drive most westerners crazy in a week. For one thing the Japanese took experienced factory workers and placed in the front line as combat troops, leaving of course compete disaster to assume the void. It's a miracle the Japanese were able to produce what they did manage to produce given all the conditions and state of their own industrial capacity and organization.

                      So, as is often the case, war probably was the driving force which may have birthed conceptual ideas that are illustrated in the McCandlish illustration. It looks like there is some evidence that somehow the allies were left with scraps of information about antigravity research from Nazi Germany.

                      I've always contended that when the surviving Jewish intelligentsia stumbled off from secret production facilities they took with them the real knowledge, and it's my view that the nation most likely to hold antigravity technology was probably Israel and which I think probably demostrated it's power on a number of occassions. Now if you take that point of view, then suddenly you have answers for otherwise inexplicable actions taken by the United States and the Soviet Union, not to mention virtually everyone else on the planet.


                      Whether or not the scientists of the Third Reich actually got as far as a prototype is something which only the vaults of the CIA/OSS would be able to tell us, if even they themselves ever knew the truth.

                      Quite possibly the entire Alien UFO meme was a construct originating out of the supposedly victorious allies whom were suddenly confronted with a technology which they themselves had virtually no understanding of at all, and whom probably did not link up who possessed it for a very long time. I think possibly JFK might have and that this lead to that day in Dallas Texas.

                      Link to ubber HD image. *U-should save this HD Image in your files people. Was almost lost for a while but now I see it's been picked up by others. This one archived from Rumor mills, but the original story which it was attached to is lost. The one about where and how it ...cough ...showed up.
                      http://www.rumormillnews.com/Images/...-enhanced2.jpg

                      Now this image is one which quote "mysteriously surfaced" along with a few others, one containing George Bush Senior, as if to say something under a freeway overpass in Texas. So there's a mystery story here people. Remember me suggesting that it's us who have failed the truth tellers? People try to tell us truths as best they can is the idea I'm passing on.

                      Notice to the right upper portion of the photo is what looks like a smoke ring. Then just to the left is a dark streak about 3 pixels in length: That's an Army Helicopter which was filmed on that day. This is Dealey Plaza with people awaiting the Presidents Motorcade.

                      Small version of HD image (Archived at Coast to Coast)


                      This link is to a 1957 series of photo's and article Published in 1967. Photo series taken at an ARMY BASE in 1957, which clearly indicated that this technology/cloaking technology was in existence in the 1957 and probably in the hands of the US Military at that time. Eventually people will come to realize this is one and the same as the one shown in the Dealy Plaza photo.
                      The Ring Cloud UFO Photographs, 1957, UFO Casebook Files

                      Partial of compiled photo's
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                      • OK Sputins, so now I've given this Joe Cell levitation some thought. Previously I was unaware that Joe Cells were noted for doing this. Surprisingly I hadn't come across that information.

                        I don't know a lot about Joe Cells, but thought about making one previously and did some looking into that, however that was quite a while ago. I may have to revisit the information.

                        Consider however in the light of your comments what is probably happening and as it relates to the weight of the vehicle. For the Joe Cell to result in levitation it would seem that the Joe Cell is providing a change in the charge stasis of the vehicles metal body, and this is almost assuredly caused by ingesting air which has been induced to carry a charge polarity. As such this would be rather like what happens to automobiles in tornado's which fly off the highway. So in this case there really is likely to be an explanation which is somewhat conventional.


                        It took me a while but examine this video of a car disappearing in a tornado. The clip is very short, running between the 1:10 second mark and the 1:40 second mark. It's important to notice that there is another person crouched on the ground just to the right of where the car is yanked off the highway. This person isn't visible because of the torrent of material until about the 1:19 mark after the car vanishes, and it's only then that you can see where this person was crouched on the ground. So now what gives: Why is the car gone and the person somehow survives? BTW, let this be a lesson to those snail darters whom dive in front to lead the way and because what's the first rule in these situations people? Seek Cover, take shelter, and try to remain calm. Probably the people in the car did not survive this event. Watching this is a little disturbing so be prepared.

                        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIE5i-Rpw-U[/VIDEO]

                        In a tornado the vortex is picking up the grounds charge in dust and debris which is being transferred to other objects. A car is sitting on rubber insulators, and being all metal it is a good conductor, naturally what is happening is that the car is absorbing the same charge as the ground around it. What this video shows is the magnitude of the charge sheath, because inside of 5 seconds the car has now become self-repelling to the surrounding ground, and because it's all metal it's really self repelling like an opposed magnet. It therefore does not require much for the cyclonic winds to rip this vehicle from the highway: Make sense?

                        Now alternatively there could also be a lot more going on with this activity where cyclonic winds are moving charged particles across a metal conductor. Shouldn't be too hard to envision all sorts of potential electromagnetic crap happening in that case, but for the Joe Cell the charge polarity is being inducted into the automobiles motor and thence on to the rest of the cars' body. It is a cyclonic wind which is doing this as well, just that it's not covering the entire vehicle so it doesn't exhibit anti~gravity phenomena in the blink of an eye.

                        On the other hand, the person hanging on to the ground for dear life is also a diamagnetic body repelling the charge field while self grounding with a charge field of the surrounding earth. Undoubtedly the reason the person on the ground survived is that by using their bare hands to dig into the earth was conducting a charge back to the earth so that their body carried far less of a static charge than the car had. Anyone else standing on shoes and holding on to say a light post or tree would have carried a much higher static charge which would have been the same as the ground itself. So any insulating materials will assist the tornado's in inducting a static charge into material which will be self repelling from the charge field of the ground itself. So the survivor, in reducing their exposure to the induced charge from the cyclonic debris and by crouching down helped. That action, combined with holding on to the ground grounded their own diamagnetic body back to the earth, and all these actions worked together to allow this person to survive.

                        I think it's some dramatic and rare footage of just how powerful static charges can become: It can't be pure luck for a person 4 feet away from an automobile is left on the ground while the car is sucked into the sky in the blink of an eye. It's not the cyclonic wind which is alone responsible for what happens in the video; it's the static charge polarity (magnetic field polarity) being transferred by induction into surrounding objects.

                        This action, if cross applied to the Joe Cell, would indicate to me that the cell is transferring a surrounding charge field of the same polarity of the immediate ground to the vehicle, and it's doing this in a very similar way: Motors eat air and also the car is insulated from the ground by it's rubber tires. It only seems mysterious because we don't have obvious cyclonic winds but if the motor is running then they are there. Depending on the specifics, this ingested atmosphere is of the same polarity field of the surroundings, and could conceivably become strong enough that, when combined with a magnetic deviation of enough strength in an immediate location, might then levitate the vehicle as described just as two opposed magnets would also do.
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                        • Now lets try something else and look at the Star Wars land speeder. When I say L00K...blink! blink! I mean open your eyes and look at it like you were looking at something which actually could float and didn't require mirrors and rubber tires for special effects. When I say look I mean stop and pause and then think about this like it might be real, and if it were real, then what could that image reveal based on everything you know? I mean look at it like you're the head of Army Intelligence and you've got to brief the President. You think a person like President Trump will listen to some know nothing and accept someone tossing their hands in the air and saying: "I just have no clue."

                          If you start doing this you will begin thinking and having disturbing thoughts so I'm going to warn you right now that this will lead to others calling you a nut job if you start expressing your thoughts. You can choose to say nothing or express your thoughts and be called a kook. Either way, it's a sign you're waking up. Find other nut jobs, kooks, and dangerous dreamers to talk with until you find one who really isn't one, and then pretend you're an oblivious imbecile when around others whom have expressed they don't want to be disturbed.

                          As with any machine it's an assembly of parts which create a whole. It's never one thing alone which "enables" a machine to move, it's always a combination of things, and there are "enabling" technologies/knowledge that allow for it's creation. In other words, some things can be imagined because you know enough to realize they could be created, but might not be possible because the physical materials don't yet exist. Even then, take something like a jet motor and look at it's history of development, and there you can see people trying to find work around solutions to the problem.

                          We don't get news clips of pioneers any more like people in the 1930's once did. For example we don't see movie clips of the Italians testing a thermojet motor in a quest for more speed, and we don't see anything at all of any kind remotely suggesting that anything is unknown. Yes, we know everything there is to know, there's nothing out there, stop looking....Blink! Blink!

                          Our world has not improved at all despite the lessons from the last Global War. Since that time it's gotten progressively worse and worse in almost every single way imaginable. We all know that those people whom have gone out on a limb to try to help liberate humanity have been murdered. Even so, many like to claim that they can't kill everyone. Well that's just not true either, they can kill everyone, or most everyone with a thermonuclear war, which BTW does seem to be the objective of the Main Stream Media and about 80% of the politicians, and evidently all of the rich: Everyone of which must all be completely bat **** crazy as hell.

                          If you want to help the world you're going to have create problems for these people. That means rejecting their propaganda and questioning everything they toss in front of you. It means trying to find people whom will work with you and not against you with delusional ideas about becoming rich and famous, probably by planting a dagger in your back. You're going to have to do this on your own, and you're going to have to do this without a lot of help, and you're going to have to do this in secret, and you're going to have to do this with the expectation that you're not going to get rich by doing it, and you're going to have to do this while being labeled a kook just for trying, but if people will accept these conditions as the reality of the world they are now living in, and if they pursue their dreams, as opposed to the false dreams the system wants all of us to pursue, then eventually someone will strike gold somewhere's.

                          When you look at this image of Mark Hamill and the Land Speeder it's not just a movie prop and actor standing there. It's a story and it's a story about technology, but the one thing it is not is a fantasy, it's not pulled out of nowhere: No~where does not exist. Start believing that you are being shown what is known to others is my advice.

                          We already know that for a machine to levitate it needs to create a repelling magnetic field. So that's one part of the machines requirement. We can ask ourselves these questions: How many ways can we create a repelling charge, are there other ways to increase the repelling field, what are the best diamagnetic materials, are there any ways we can imagine which will enhance or multiply any or all of these desired features?

                          Now once you've done all this and think you have most all of the known technology in your hat, and still can't make a breakthrough, then you have to look at what is holding you back in the way of physical forces acting on the machine, or else explain the failure by looking at your machine itself and explaining it by either inferior design, as in not good enough yet, like I'm lacking swept wing technology for example, or else in technological development as in the case of where there just isn't enough power or it's being applied incorrectly!

                          Technical development is always going to encounter one or more of the aforementioned as it progresses. So the first step is to try to identify where the problem lies. This isn't always easy. The more people you have working with you the greater your chances for success. Which is why you must be labeled as a kook by the system in order to decrease the number of people willing to try to over~throw the systems planned future of sending your kids to either McDonalds, Walmart, a homeless shelter, or the military for college debt relief, which is what college debt is really all about, or else to prison for some pathetic excuse like smoking a dubi or something equally meaningless and unimportant.

                          These are the pre~planned futures which we ourselves have handed today's generations. These futures are what faces most kids today, these are their planned futures, and ya know there's plenty of shills whom have a lot to lose by upsetting their money making schemes of telling lies, but for the rest of us, for our own kids, well...sometimes a kid figures out just how totally screwed they are and looks round for someone to blame and to get even with: Golly can you imagine that?

                          We all helped to deliver these kids these great futures? We did and our leaders did, and we are all responsible for this in our own ways, but very few of us own television stations, or a hundred other influential for profit enterprise's either which could change the way people see the news and then their understanding of what futures they have shoved their kids in to, few of us donate tens of millions in a bribes for votes scheme that is all of our so~called government.

                          Now you're like asking yourself what the hell does this have to do with anything? Well the change starts with how you see your world around you, and I think it's a positive and fun way to begin changing your views by taking on jobs like this and then trying to unravel them, because you're going to find that no~matter what you think right now, you will find things which will raise your eyebrows and cause you to rethink what you think you know. That's your first step in liberation by the way, and while I know this isn't like an answer; not the answer you want, nor the one I want either, but look at the image and think it over. It's odd, that is the vehicle is odd, because we know it's supposed to be levitating and yet here it has these grill like features and intake ducts. Now I myself really haven't given a great deal of thought to the idea of hacking this image, but since proposing this I've been having dangerous ideas about it.


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                          Last edited by Gambeir; 03-28-2018, 03:55 PM.
                          "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                          • Jerry E. Bayles' "Flying Saucer PDF".

                            Take a look at this:

                            http://www.electrogravity.com/Flying...cerField_2.pdf
                            Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-26-2018, 10:25 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Allen Burgess View Post
                              Great Job Burgess!
                              Wow...and he updated it four days ago as well. Can't go wrong with Bayles. He's been out there from way back. Great material there. I found this quote attached to the PDF link highly interesting as well, as I'm sure you yourself did. Might explain a few things huh?

                              "Field action diagram added on page 6 that details the generation and field sequence that creates the lifting force field as well as being able to generate a tractor or repulsion beam which can also shake solid matter to a powder if necessary.
                              Flying saucer design is based on creating a macroscopic quantum field to allow for quantum jumps without inertial effects and also propulsion via the A-vector quantum magnetic potential."
                              Electrogravity

                              Now I know others probably don't see this, but because of my special relationship with Universe I do, and what I see is a large dunce cap approaching...~LoL! Bring it Universe, I'm ready for you this time!


                              "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                              • Magnet field independent of the motion of the magnet.

                                Jerry's most poignant tests demonstrate that: "The field of a rotating disk magnet is independent of the motion of the magnet"; There is a latency in the magnetic field that results in the motion of the disk moving through it's own either non-moving or moving very slowly field.

                                The important and truly amazing fact is that the magnet field continues to move after the rotating disk stops!

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