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  • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Hello All,

    The comment below, I find it very interesting, so I wanted to share it with you all:

    First I will show it in Russian, I used Google, which may have some errors...so, in case there is a Russian translator here that could do a better job...by all means do it.

    Google Translation:

    *Kacherov, Katcher or TDK is referring to the Tesla Coil Output.

    Regards

    Ufopolitics
    Hey UFO, all.

    The time-line of things does paint a picture, with the circuit video coming very recently. (I received that latest one in my youtube feed as I had subscribed to Alexey some time ago, but somehow I missed seeing the original disc video)..

    Good of you to post any translated gold nuggets of info from him, it will all help.

    I’ve sure were all excited about that Alexey has opened sourced his experiments. The reverb of this is larger than we can imagine..

    I know for certain the information is spreading rapidly!

    These devices, once proven beyond any doubt (by replication or otherwise) validates all the comments that Gambier has made, that indeed there is hidden technology and knowledge kept from the masses. – This device may change everything, or at least prove that the rumours are true!

    The more we can learn about it, gives us a better chance of being able to build our own working unit.

    I wonder? - if we asked the local university and were invited to take our working model into the University and give a demonstration of the device to the professors and students, whether you’d be received well, or be escorted off the grounds and arrested..?
    "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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    • Originally posted by Sputins View Post
      Hey UFO, all.

      The time-line of things does paint a picture, with the circuit video coming very recently. (I received that latest one in my youtube feed as I had subscribed to Alexey some time ago, but somehow I missed seeing the original disc video)..

      Good of you to post any translated gold nuggets of info from him, it will all help.

      I’ve sure were all excited about that Alexey has opened sourced his experiments. The reverb of this is larger than we can imagine..

      I know for certain the information is spreading rapidly!

      These devices, once proven beyond any doubt (by replication or otherwise) validates all the comments that Gambier has made, that indeed there is hidden technology and knowledge kept from the masses. – This device may change everything, or at least prove that the rumours are true!

      The more we can learn about it, gives us a better chance of being able to build our own working unit.

      I wonder? - if we asked the local university and were invited to take our working model into the University and give a demonstration of the device to the professors and students, whether you’d be received well, or be escorted off the grounds and arrested..?
      Hello Sputins,

      That comment (in Russian) was not from Alexey, but from a YT Member on that second laptop video.

      When he was uncertain if or not opening to the public...there were several comments of a previous user who did try to keep it a secret in Russia...and He was killed...or die "mysteriously"...and I guess this was the catalyst that make him go in the open source.

      It could be within the possibilities that this technology was a result from a "leak"...from the classified material that either dates back to the previous USSR...or from the present Russian Federation Vaults.

      But, as Alexey mentions...He has been working on this development for several years...

      A working prototype, even getting off ground one inch...is enough to accept this whole thing as real.

      IMHO, Not a good idea to bring it into a Local University before it spreads widely and globally.

      Yes, indeed it would change the way Science has been established up to now.


      Regards


      Ufopolitics
      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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      • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post

        A working prototype, even getting off ground one inch...is enough to accept this whole thing as real.

        IMHO, Not a good idea to bring it into a Local University before it spreads widely and globally.

        Yes, indeed it would change the way Science has been established up to now.


        Regards


        Ufopolitics
        No, I don’t think that would be a good idea either, I wouldn’t do it… – It was just a thought experiment. – Being if you took something that was real and demonstrated it in front of professors and they could not explain it, with the consequences being that it un-validated much of their own physics…
        "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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        • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
          Hello,

          Ok, first I believe all mechanical movements (rotations) are due to satisfy VIRTUAL, MASSLESS FIELDS COUPLING.

          Therefore, I do not believe there are any "low or high pressures areas" here, just like in a propeller, based on air flow craft.

          Like the above comment writes, the Tesla Coil, AC HV Output serves to RECHARGE ALTERNATIVELY BOTH POSITIVE-NEGATIVE SPINNING ELECTRIC FIELDS, making those two Fields to grow Spatially and in DENSITY...

          Now, the FREQUENCY of this alternated HV AC from the "Katcher" (Tesla Coil) not only serves to charge both fields but also to start "FUSING" THEM, since it reaches High Frequencies.

          Assisted by the Piezo Electric Heater Generator on top to complement that fusing job.

          This FUSED vibrating Field composed by two (positive+negative) electric field...is what actually creates the Gravitational Field.

          I believe the Counter Rotations are necessary first, to distribute positive-negative charges EVENLY through whole aluminum spinning discs mass...since input is delivered via one wire brush at a specific region only.
          Secondly, opposed or counter discs spins generates a stability to the whole lifting assembly, adding a smoother levitation in air space of the craft.

          And finally...the Magnetic Field spinning analysis:

          Prototype#1- In First prototype He had magnets array in both spinning discs...it did not work as successfully as it did later on (#2 Model).
          Prototype#2-Only bottom spinning disc have magnets.

          I believe it was proven based on his work that the magnetic Field spinning in just bottom disc is enough, because this field also assist to generate the FUSED Two Electric Fields into the Gravitational Field, by giving BOTH FIELDS a UNIFIED SPIN...Regardless that both aluminum discs are spinning counter-wise...The Tesla Coil Alternated, Vibrational AC Output at center static disc TENDS to Slow down to a Static State both Electric Fields...then Magnetic Field comes into play to define a uniform spin to the Fused Gravitational Field.

          Like I said before...we need to separate Mechanical Movements from Virtual Fields Effects to try to see what's going on with all the ELECTRICAL-MAGNETIC MASS-LESS FIELDS...in order to visualize what is going on here.

          Anyways...this is -so far- what I see taking place here...after building it...it may change or reinforce these thoughts.


          Regards


          Ufopolitics
          Hi UFO,

          I think your analysis is accurate with the information available at this time.

          Although in Version-3 it looks like he’s put an array of magnets on the top again.

          But certainly the lower spinning (magnetic) disc and the upper disc (magnetic or not) forms a plate capacitor arrangement.
          Since the two (magnetic) spinning plates form a capacitor of sorts, one can understand why there are no shafts or anything to sort out or discharge this capacitor. (Except for the centre plate)

          The large plate in between, which might be considered the centre or neutral point or centre tap (with respect to the HV DC) and where the Tesla coil AC is introduced. With the HF, AC on this neutral zone, it’s now not really neutral, but as you have stated, or was commented that it “TENDS to Slow down to a Static State both Electric Fields” or “RECHARGE ALTERNATIVELY BOTH POSITIVE-NEGATIVE SPINNING ELECTRIC FIELDS, making those two Fields to grow Spatially and in DENSITY”...

          There is also likely “torsion” or magnetic breaking (I’m sure Ken calls it something else) created in the aluminium central plate as the spinning magnets below would be inducing, since it appears to be aluminium?

          So from this we could guess the sequence to operate might be,
          1, spinning up of the magnetic plates
          2, Tesla coil HF AC applied
          3, HV DC is then finally introduced

          As we’ve mentioned, there’s likely a narrow window for all of the parameters to be matched, like the rotation speed of the magnets, the frequency and HF power of the AC field and the voltage (flux density) of the HV DC.

          But it’s all talk until the builds are progressed.

          Does anyone have any idea on the RPM of those magnetic plates? It’s not
          superfast.
          "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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          • Originally posted by Sputins View Post
            Hi UFO,

            I think your analysis is accurate with the information available at this time.

            Although in Version-3 it looks like he’s put an array of magnets on the top again.

            But certainly the lower spinning (magnetic) disc and the upper disc (magnetic or not) forms a plate capacitor arrangement.
            Since the two (magnetic) spinning plates form a capacitor of sorts, one can understand why there are no shafts or anything to sort out or discharge this capacitor. (Except for the centre plate)

            The large plate in between, which might be considered the centre or neutral point or centre tap (with respect to the HV DC) and where the Tesla coil AC is introduced. With the HF, AC on this neutral zone, it’s now not really neutral, but as you have stated, or was commented that it “TENDS to Slow down to a Static State both Electric Fields” or “RECHARGE ALTERNATIVELY BOTH POSITIVE-NEGATIVE SPINNING ELECTRIC FIELDS, making those two Fields to grow Spatially and in DENSITY”...

            There is also likely “torsion” or magnetic breaking (I’m sure Ken calls it something else) created in the aluminium central plate as the spinning magnets below would be inducing, since it appears to be aluminium?

            So from this we could guess the sequence to operate might be,
            1, spinning up of the magnetic plates
            2, Tesla coil HF AC applied
            3, HV DC is then finally introduced

            As we’ve mentioned, there’s likely a narrow window for all of the parameters to be matched, like the rotation speed of the magnets, the frequency and HF power of the AC field and the voltage (flux density) of the HV DC.

            But it’s all talk until the builds are progressed.

            Does anyone have any idea on the RPM of those magnetic plates? It’s not
            superfast.

            Hi Sputins, good morning,

            Only the quoted text was the YT Comment...all the rest are my own conclusions.

            All night long I've been dreaming with this device...

            And basically my dream was about some different tests...:

            If the rotations are basically done in order to distribute the charges evenly through the whole discs material, just like in a FARADAY Homopolar Generator, where charges tend to concentrate at outer circumference...then

            We could give it a try (test) to use Dual Tesla SINGLE (NOT BIFILAR) Pancake Coils with open ends, which could be of opposite windings directions (that just takes to swap one of coils) INSTEAD of the Two Spinning Discs...then suppress all mechanical rotations...since charges will be forced to run through the conductor, it will follow this spiral naturally without a physical spin...

            The center AC-HV Tesla Input disc plate, still would recharge these two fields based on Pancake Coils.

            Only thing I see here is that each pancake coil would generate its own magnetic field, basically if they are single and not Bifilar...so BOTH WAYS must be tested.

            We all know a Bifilar Tesla Coil with its original connections (end with start) will cancel magnetic fields....but have to observe if AC would charge them...

            I have pictured on my mind this AC HV center static disc acting against both DC Fields of opposite polarities...first at slow motion, when cycle is negative then upper positive disc is charging while lower is idling...and so cycle reverses then lower is charging up.

            But now think in HF speed..at very, extremely short cycles...where time is reduced to minimal expression....then we have both discs charging almost at UNISON.

            Finally, if all magnets are oriented equally on each disc, like bottom all North Up...then there would not be a magnetic field change with rotation...then this homogeneous field is design to act on both electric fields...

            Anyways too much thinking for one night...yeah kind of a nightmare if I add all the sudden take offs while testing...

            It was very similar to the tests that Howard Menger conducted with a static coil and plate....



            Regards



            Ufopolitics
            Last edited by Ufopolitics; 09-17-2018, 01:21 PM.
            Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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            • A pretty in depth review by someone else...

              [VIDEO]https://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=cGcXVGOfyro#[/VIDEO]


              Have to watch it later...


              Regards


              Ufopolitics
              Last edited by Ufopolitics; 09-17-2018, 01:46 PM.
              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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              • anyone have any idea what his tesla coil frequency is ?
                is it the same as the ultrasonic ?
                Reason I ask is that I already have a 6KV AC, 10KHz power supply that I made for a voltage multiplier set.
                I wonder if it would be a good idea just to use that, or do I need something that will run in the 40KHz range like an ultrasonic system likely runs ?

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                • Hi folks have'nt posted in a while, been watching though. Just some thoughts on this, dont think this is antigravity per se, just a lorentz force drive. Check this patent ,(US20090085411A1) same process except he's using static mangets which have to get to the right speed to generate the correct freq fluctuations in the mag field. Also visualize that only the radial portion of the flux lines coming from the disc magnets.

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                  • Originally posted by phoneboy View Post
                    Hi folks have'nt posted in a while, been watching though. Just some thoughts on this, dont think this is antigravity per se, just a lorentz force drive. Check this patent ,(US20090085411A1) same process except he's using static mangets which have to get to the right speed to generate the correct freq fluctuations in the mag field. Also visualize that only the radial portion of the flux lines coming from the disc magnets.

                    Not Cancelling Gravity?...but Lorent Force?...Hey guys let's stop fooling around here...if Lorentz could give us a craft that takes off vertically...why mess with this BS?

                    I wonder what else Lorentz could do...established since the 1900's but still have not seen this application yet...well, let's keep waiting...

                    Magnets have NORTH ON TOP, then B FIELD is UP and VERY VERTICAL...not radial.

                    Geez...Another Dwane...


                    Ufopolitics
                    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                    • A Balloon does better....

                      I read another so stupid comment on Alexey's YT Chanel...

                      This guy is saying that because device is attached to cables...is not good...that a balloon🎈 attached to a cord does the same thing and is not ANTIGRAVITY...

                      I ask myself...HOW MUCH MORE STUPID COULD A HUMAN BE?...COULD IT GO PAST THIS POINT?
                      Last edited by Ufopolitics; 09-17-2018, 05:39 PM.
                      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                      • Wow that was fast, I quess with your infinite wisdom you were able to analyze the patent in two seconds and come to a definite conclusion. So what if the magnets are north up, correct me if im wrong but magnetic fields are conservative, meaning they form a loop, if you took a second to think about the field you would realize there is a radial component of the flux emanating from it, i guess you need a picture??

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                        • Originally posted by phoneboy View Post
                          Wow that was fast, I quess with your infinite wisdom you were able to analyze the patent in two seconds and come to a definite conclusion. So what if the magnets are north up, correct me if im wrong but magnetic fields are conservative, meaning they form a loop, if you took a second to think about the field you would realize there is a radial component of the flux emanating from it, i guess you need a picture??
                          You don't need to be that wise...to read patent was granted in 2008...never assigned...and now is ABANDONED.
                          If it would be for real and true...maybe LOCKHEED would've own it by now...

                          Yeah, sure, ALL magnets strength is at their radial SIDES.. that's why MOTORS AND GENERATORS use the radial side and never FRONTAL INTERACTIONS?...RIGHT?

                          I have taken just A bit more than a second to study magnetic fields...search me.

                          Do I need a picture?......what about videos?...several in many colors and 3D ANIMATED CAD?
                          Last edited by Ufopolitics; 09-17-2018, 06:11 PM.
                          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                          • Maybee spacecase will have a look at it, he's got a clue.

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                            • Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
                              anyone have any idea what his tesla coil frequency is ?
                              is it the same as the ultrasonic ?
                              Reason I ask is that I already have a 6KV AC, 10KHz power supply that I made for a voltage multiplier set.
                              I wonder if it would be a good idea just to use that, or do I need something that will run in the 40KHz range like an ultrasonic system likely runs ?
                              Hi Space,

                              Don't think we have the Tesla Coil Frequency...I know he uses between 20 to 30 kV...

                              But I don't think it will hurt anything by testing whatever you have in hand, realize that all HV Contacts are gapped to no spark, not closed either..I would just put together a smaller prototype that weight much less than the one he shows, smaller discs...shorter gaps...it should require less power to uplift...

                              Anyways, just my opinion.


                              Regards



                              Ufopolitics
                              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                              • To begin with I want to thank to Sputin's for spotting this. I also agree with Ufopolitics; I don't see anything here suggestive of a fraud.

                                Now, there's a lot of material being injected. A lot of it is beyond my competency. Posts are not ignored, they just can't always be addressed is all, but there are people whom appreciate your own individual posts and thoughts. You have to realize that what you're doing does matter.

                                In the case of a mystery you want to have many minds working a single problem. You don't have to be brilliant to prove decisive either. All you have to do is find the solution. Keep in mind that as long as this site survives your posts also serve as reference point. Nothing is ignored ~ No thoughts dismissed: Just want you all to realize this and to not feel you're neglected.



                                Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
                                this guy may have some insight as to what is going on
                                William J. Hooper: New Horizons In Electric, Magnetic And Gravitational Field Theory
                                have read it before, but it did not click for me till I saw that russian guy's setup.

                                Originally posted by sinergicus View Post
                                Hey guys.... searching for antigravity tech , I found a video about ionocraft lifters ,nothing new or special ,many guys have done this....instead ,in comments below the video, a guy named Russel Anderson made interesting coments and he has posted some interesting links...this guy worked closely with John Searl and now he is in proces to reveal the technology to the world ...he have an you tube chanel where he posting his conferences about antigravity technology ...one conference posted in 2013 about searl tech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDXP...ature=youtu.be , some papers regarding ioncraft lifters experiments made by us army :https://arxiv.org/vc/physics/papers/0211/0211001v1.pdf ...one of Russel coments : Russell Anderson
                                Russell Anderson

                                Glad I could help. This tech us FUNDAMENTAL, and they still to this day do not teach it even in graduate programs. We just got the patent for the SPINTRONIC GENERATOR to Protect the inventor, Professor John RR Searl's rights US Pat No. 9,871,431, issued Jan. 16, 2018. The tech in this video is great and very simple warp technology from TT Brown, ELECTROKINETIC APPARATUS, US Pat. No 2,949,550, issued Aug. 16, 1960. Energy and mass are equivalent. BOTH warp spacetime. You can warp space with a dense local aggregation of MASS, like the San GABRIEL MOUNTAINS (WHICH DEFLECT GRAVITOMETERS and the Plumb-line as see thru a theodolite. Warping of spacetime gets noticable when Voltage gets high, about several THOUSAND Volts or so, in a symmetrical or asymmetrical parallel plate capacitor configuration, or a TOROIDAL coil, with a square-cross section Swedish-steel (soft-iron) core. This is ETHER TECHNOLOGY (Google it). TESLA technology. maybe would be a good ideea to invite mister Russel here at this topic on energeticforum .....
                                Originally posted by phoneboy View Post
                                Hi folks have'nt posted in a while, been watching though. Just some thoughts on this, dont think this is antigravity per se, just a lorentz force drive. Check this patent ,(US20090085411A1) same process except he's using static mangets which have to get to the right speed to generate the correct freq fluctuations in the mag field. Also visualize that only the radial portion of the flux lines coming from the disc magnets.
                                Originally posted by sinergicus View Post
                                Hi again...now few years ago , I found a blog about some experiment that was made by an young malaysian physicist... he made research in anti gravity technology ...few years he tried to understand and replicate somehow grebennikov bug chitin anti gravity plate ..after that because the lack of succes he decided to research about how to obtain antigravity effect by magnetohydrodinamicaly (MHD) principles ....so he succeed to do it on a small scale ... he made some videos with explanations about his MHD thruster and how to make rodin coils needed for that ... his videos are no more on you tube but I saved 2 of them (most important part ) when they still was online ,and I uploaded them on my channel ...

                                So here is his blog ( that was not updated from 2014 ) https://deackenz.wordpress.com/categ...ravity-theory/ ....in the comments he give more details about his system....

                                Now his videos :
                                theory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGAX...Tw8jVu&index=2

                                coil winding : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Fz...L6bRez_pTw8jVu
                                Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
                                might also be time to remind everyone of this PDF again
                                http://www.electrogravity.com/AVCFor...fugalForce.pdf
                                it seems to very likely apply here.
                                "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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