An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

President Trump — would like to send an American to Mars
“during my first term or at worst during my second term.”
“a lot sooner than we’re even thinking.”

Al

If we can succeed in this propulsion system then maybe we the people can solve all our problems here on Earth by transporting politicians to Mars instead. Naturally I assume there will be others whom might be considered as well. Lawyers for example, possibly criminals though I'm not too sure that wouldn't be unusual and cruel punishment lumping them in with the first two, and possibly some other undesirables may be considered as well, mostly trouble making billionaires, but I think that's about it. That should pretty much clear the trash out. Guess we will have to cross that road when we all get there.

[spacecase0]

something to keep in mind about the ARV when trying t figure it out.
the passengers would likely be set in a zone that has regular gravity force or something near normal.
so there is likely a large field that keeps it floating and flying, and a smaller reverse field that keeps the passengers ok.
seems to me that it is likely that they set up the smaller field in the central core, and did it in a way that also makes the power to run the entire system.
and I mainly say this because of the comment that they could build them large or small, but could not change any of the overall design or it would not work.
so, likely it is similar to the smart car, I doubt that any single component does just one job, it is not there unless it does a few things at the same time.

[Gambeir]

I've been ignoring the Alexey Chekurkov Thread and just noticed Ufopolitics had posted a link to this video. This is a highly technical analysis. It appears that the author Mantim Lee thinks this is a real working machine which is supported by the physics involved. This is a repulsion machine if I understand the analysis correctly. So it's looking like flying carpet's may be in our future, or at least the futures of people younger than myself: Which sounds about right.


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPLhMLWn-GI&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]

[spacecase0]

I've been ignoring the Alexey Chekurkov Thread and just noticed Ufopolitics had posted a link to this video. This is a highly technical analysis. It appears that the author Mantim Lee thinks this is a real working machine which is supported by the physics involved. This is a repulsion machine if I understand the analysis correctly. So it's looking like flying carpet's may be in our future, or at least the futures of people younger than myself: Which sounds about right.


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPLhMLWn-GI&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]

very detailed and is so long...
that is going to take me days to finish

[Gambeir]

very detailed and is so long...
that is going to take me days to finish

Well I've been through the video once. Feel free to correct my ignorance, but the gist seems to describe it as being somewhat like the electrostatic forces which are involved in tornado's; with a core product of a negative ion vortex surrounded by a positively charged outer and upwards spiraling vortex. The evident difference being that the primary plate becomes a negatively charged superconductor, aluminum being superconductive capable, and producing a repulsion type of drive. That fits the Wheeler model of there being only two forms of antigravity; one being repulsive, and the other being a kind of false mass. At any rate, I don't think it's possible to actually understand why this happens without having this understanding of counter-space and magnetism as one and the same, whereas the Volfson contraption is perhaps accomplishing the same thing, sort of, but by a vastly more complex system.

So I think it's helpful because he seems to have defined the type of vehicle it would be, which had me bamboozled, and so I appreciated the insight given. This may be useful too in looking at the ARV itself and that center disk. The puzzle is now seeming to have pieces which at least look like they might fit together even if we still don't have them properly fitted together.

However, I'm mostly interested right now in a propulsion tube and here again I refer people to this thread.
http://www.energeticforum.com/water-...netic-gas.html

Specifically to this post by Dr. Poppy.
http://www.energeticforum.com/134800-post8.html

The Answers are right here;
"Oxygen is a magnetic atom (polarized) and is just like a magnet. O1 being magnetic bonds to another O1 atom to form O2. This unfortunately is like connecting two bar magnets which completes the magnetic path and the magnetic field is confined and weaker outside that path.

An electrostatic discharge under the right conditions will cleave the atoms apart momentarily and produce a magnetic field. A laser can also be used. It is important to place the gas under a vacuum which produces acceleration and multipacitor effect which is electron cascade."

OK, so what do you do when you don't have "LASERS" ....oh, let's see....humm....maybe you would make a cascading electromagnetic solenoid? We have to keep in mind that the ARV is a very primitive machine. One which in theory we should be able to make in a garage with tools from Harbor Freight. Seriously, I mean that, and BTW I love Harbor Freight. I got to think about this a little more but off hand we need a vacuum tube, with another inner tube, so that the inner tube cycles the material, going in one end out the other, flowing around the outside of the inner tube. This is virtually a precise description of the drive given to the poor unsuspecting Britisher in South Africa in 1950. I wish I knew if this Ufonaut had a German accent because I swear to God the dialogue sounds like it came out of the mouth of von Braun.

[Gambeir]

By now those who have followed this thread should have firm idea's about the way this machine works.
What I think is happening in this design is now provided in a simplified operational outline.

The ARV appears to use a central column which uses an electron cascade effect to separate positive from negative charges via a solenoid driver which appears as concentric rings around the tube. This evidently has two purposes. One, it creates a thrust or weight displacement by the same means demonstrated in the copper tube magnet experiment, resulting in a propulsive force when opposed by a magnetically reactive fluid or gas, and which, following the right hand rule, is electromagnetically vectored such as to counter gravity. (*Think I have that right)

A suitable conductive agent, previously mentioned as helium but probably something else, when driven by the solenoids creates a partitioned ion, and whose charges are evidently picked up by two counter rotating interior helix coils, somewhat replicating the magnetic, with the negative charges applied to the electro-optically reactive piezoelectric quartz capacitors, which holding a controllable charge are then repelled from the earth, and with the positive charges potentially applied to the outer hull.

Evidently a large electromagnet is located around the outside about half way up and forming the deck where the crew compartment door is located, and this electromagnet might be operated in a rotational solenoid fashion, thereby inducing a rotation effect upon the magnetic field discharges which presumably exist outside the vehicle, and which are cycling as a magnetic field and being taken back up in side the vehicle via an accretion disk, shown in the McCandlish Illustration as the crew deck flooring and possibly made from aluminum, and this accretion disk then cycles exterior magnetic back to the inner core of the magnetic field: Where Counter-Space which gives rise to the magnetic field should be.

This is my best guess so far as to how this machine operates. This speculation is based on all the information compiled so far. In the future I may be posting some illustrations and other material to help illustrate these thoughts more clearly. The basics of how this machine operates are now fairly clear in my opinion. However, a million times I've thought I've understood only be made an absolute total fool, which is why Universe and I have an adversarial relationship, as it insists it is my superior and which I refuse to accept because it's my job as a human being to refuse to acknowledge the manifest truth. Now it is true that there are areas which are unclear but over all I think this outline does fill in some of the fundamental operational concepts which underlie this design: We shall see who ends up wearing the Dunce Cap is what I say.

One of the next key parts to understanding this machine is probably discovering what it is using in the central column; water, liquid air, liquid helium, other?
Refer to the work of Henry Stevens; "Hitlers Flying Saucers" because I'm leaning towards water as the quote; "ionic fuel" source here.
Pg. 135
"A point of speculation should be made concerning the KM-2 device.
As stated above, T. T. Brown believed that water vapor or steam
was a suitable medium for his electrokenetic generator."

1950 South Africa Ufonaut begs for water?
Ufo's predilection for clouds and apparent love of water as well.

[Gambeir]

An Electrokinetic Generator is what we today more commonly call an MHD Generator. So ya know I simply highlighted "Electrokintic Generator" and did a search. Here's the same patent shown in the Henry Steven's book; "Hitlers Flying Saucers."

T. Townsend Brown. 1957 Electrokinetic Generator.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3022430A/en

A small sampling from the Townsend Patent;

Priorly, the thermal energy of burning fuel has been first converted into mechanical energy of motion which in turn was used to generate electrical energy, the wellknown boiler-steam-turbine electrical generator arrangement being a familiar example. However, in accordance with this invention the energy of a burning fuel is directly converted into electrical energy. In accordance with other aspects of this invention, the kinetic energy of a stream of dielectric fluid such as carbon dioxide may be converted directly into electrical energy. Further, the principles of this invention may be applied to apparatus for the generation of very high voltages by a series of conversion devices. Still further, the electrical energy so generated may be employed as a motive force to propel the generator relative to the surrounding medium.

It is a further object of this invention to provide a method and apparatus wherein a fluid stream is utilized to transport electrical charges from one electrode to another.

Encyclopedia Britannica has some good images and overview information on MHD's.
https://www.britannica.com/technolog...ower-generator

https://www.britannica.com/technolog...a/357424/92957
Observe Disk Generator D. in this image link.
https://cdn.britannica.com/38/338-004-FBC3CAEA.jpg

[Gambeir]

FYI that the thread isn't dead. Bugsfly, Spacecase0, and others have been covering ideas about what we think might be happening in the Alexey and the ARV. So to fill in a little bit;

It does appear, though we cannot be 100% sure, that the Alexey is a repulsion type of machine. However, based on the calculations of Lee the machine isn't displaying the calculated thrust to weight ratio which Lee figured at over 8,000 lbs. A phenomenal figure which would shoot the Alexey in to space very quickly. There can be no doubt that Lee's calculations are accurate so answers must lie elsewhere.

Therefore the issue arises as to where is this thrust if it's not being displayed? Here then are some ideas we have been tossing around. Really answers will probably have to come from testing and inventing ways to test these ideas for validity.

We think that one possible explanation for this lack of thrust may have to do with the creation of counter space at the core of the Aluminum plate, and which is spread across/through the plate, and which then may produce a barrier to the Earths' Magnetic Field. Evidently most of the energy Lee's calculations put forward must then be engaged in the creation of a barrier to the Earth's Magnetic Field.

I think that a high voltage high frequency charge applied by the Tesla Coil to the Aluminum Plate is likely the starter for this vortex opening to counter space. Bugsfly doesn't think its necessary or may not even be doing anything useful, and that this could all be the result of mechanical interactions, and he might be right about that too.

Theory is that the magnets, whose bloch walls lie in the same plane as the aluminum plate but below the plate form a virtual enlarged magnetic field by their rotation and by acting on a created counter-space, and it is the core bloch walls of the spinning magnets which pull outwards upon counter space once it's created at the core of the aluminum plate, which is where it should come from, and where we hypothesize a worm hole to counter space can be opened, and that the rotation of the magnets bloch walls is what pulls outwards towards the periphery of the plate. This idea may be one which should be applied by Geek's in Sonoluminescence experiments. For example these kids;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdccm-AVEMc

Now we aren't sure that in fact a HF HV Charge must be used. It maybe possible do this all mechanically as theorized by Bugsfly. This goes back to his grinding action mill stone theory. Something to consider since phenomena in nature may validate this theory.

The inspiration for this idea comes by watching this video of the supposed TR3# captured over Paris France about 7 or 8 years ago. It's the leaving Paris France part that counts. Notice how this resembles a "Star in Jar" the way it manifests, and notice that the core light is expanded and then pulled in to a complete sphere engulfing the machine by the three outer lighted sphere's. This is very good video and you can clearly see there are two fins on the top of the vehicle. This is not an alien space ship. It's clearly entering counter space in my opinion.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnUpJw5sahg[/VIDEO]

[Gambeir]

Let's look at some some key facts which have come out of all this starting with the late great Joe Parr and his research. One is that a pyramid shape ( which is made up of triangular tetrahedrons and a square) put in an alternating magnetic field creates an energy bubble. Secondly, we also know that pyramids either emit an energy or else pull in energies; but of course they are doing both. Thirdly, we can see that there is cross correlation between shape energy research pioneered by Joe Parr and the organization of crystalline shapes in matter. Fourthly, we can see that these shapes are cross correlated to specific creations of life on earth such as the hexagonal tubes found in bee hives. Fifthly, thanks to the work of Joe Parr we know that the pyramid shape, the tetrahedron and square put in the shape of a pyramid, and then placed in an alternating magnetic field has a specific and powerful outcome. Finally, in some alloys of metal there are perfect inverted combinations of these shapes.

Metals crystal structure [SubsTech]


Listen specifically to this Ancient Aliens out take at the section between 1:40 and 3:00 minutes. *Personally I don't believe in string theory and multiple dimensions but I do believe in hyperspace/Counter-Space and so my point is to beware of the Snow Job that is naturally embedded in the otherwise fascinating Ancient Aliens Series.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=87&v=Hh-EZH4fu5k[/VIDEO]

Kirlian-photography-pyramid: If a pyramid is, in fact, pulling in energy then what kind of energy would you think that might be if the net result could end up levitating the pyramid?
Pyramid Hyperspace Research
Joe Parr

[Gambeir]

Now then, I don't know that my hypothesis about this is correct but at least I think it is one which is logically deduced from the known facts.

I think that if you take this man's genius
Joe Parr

Combine it with this man's artistic skill
Home

Combine the two and what you end up with is the ARV.

I have thought to have deduced the operation of the ARV many, many, many times, only to discover that at each turn these solutions morphed in to something else. All of which makes me hesitate to say that the solution has been found, but when you look at the facts, however unlikely they may seem, the end result says that this solution is probably the closest so far.

It seems to me that the obvious answer to how the ARV operates is directly cross correlated to what Joe Parr discovered. The so-called capacitor plates are pie shaped and triangular, they point inwards, the material used is quartz, and plated over with a conductor, such that an alternating eletro-magnetic field could be produced above and below the imbedded quartz, or other suitable alloy.

The apparent key to this mystery is that the crystalline patterns of specific material are reacting to the input of an alternating magnetic field.

Considering all the data that's out there, much of which has been covered in this thread, and reaching across time from Operation Paper Clip and the recovery of the Nazi Scientists, the mysterious vanishing of General Klammer, the photograph of the swastika emblazoned UFO shaped sign hanging over the prisoner hut in the wastelands of New Mexico with what would become the Huntsville Rocket team, and symbolically flanked on either side by Oxen Harness, first the Nazi's then the American's, can we really delude ourselves in to believing that all these vehicles are coming from other worlds? What's more logical, that Aliens are coming here, or the known facts?

What began as another NWO/Deep State Elitist Billionaire stay rich project to completely enslave humanity, like the last global war was, has now undoubtedly found that both it and we are not alone in the Universe and that, today, we truly are being visited, but as of yet we have absolutely nothing which is as remotely as convincing as the evidence which nearly proves that the latest enterprise to enslave humanity was, like all the others, a human creation and so any reasonable person should conclude that these so called UFO's are manufactured vehicles whose existence has been keep secret and whose science has been denied, marginalized, and denigrated.

There were never any Nazi's hiding in Antarctica, not unless you consider the CEO's and multibillionaire owners of the deep state to be Nazi's, and so what Admiral Byrd encountered was in fact something else, something which hadn't yet been set off limits, but made so afterwards as an internationally agreed too (by them) as a giant nature preserve, and later this off limits model was employed to create the so-called Rouge Nation States. These were and still are giant black holes. Places where the darkest secrets could be kept under lock and key. Places where the rulers managing pedophiles could safely conduct their business: There's more to the Wizard of Oz than a little girl wisked away in a cyclone than meets first glance. So this is something under our noses, something that's been going on since forever, and pretending that Aliens are running about is an attractive side show that's kept the minds of people ensnared and prolonged the reveal of truth.



Lights photographed in 1952 over a Coast Guard air station in Salem, Mass., part of the Blue Book archive.CreditShell R. Alpert/U.S. Coast Guard
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/a...?module=inline

[Gambeir]

something to keep in mind about the ARV when trying t figure it out.
the passengers would likely be set in a zone that has regular gravity force or something near normal.
so there is likely a large field that keeps it floating and flying, and a smaller reverse field that keeps the passengers ok.
seems to me that it is likely that they set up the smaller field in the central core, and did it in a way that also makes the power to run the entire system.
and I mainly say this because of the comment that they could build them large or small, but could not change any of the overall design or it would not work.
so, likely it is similar to the smart car, I doubt that any single component does just one job, it is not there unless it does a few things at the same time.

I've been thinking about this and maybe it is that rather than creating quote "gravity," what you get is instead the opposite and there is no gravity at all, which if you took the ARV drawing on faith would explain seat belts. If this is going into hyperspace or suspended in a bubble of hyperspace then it's the opposite of here, which should mean then that there is no weight, no gravity. Another thing that's always haunting is the statement that the area near the ARV was cool, and of course space is cool, and counter space supposedly the quote "Quantum Energy Field" so that should cooler still. Like really, really cool.

[Gambeir]

* Note: Continued discussion on Anti-Gravity on Vidbid's Thread. Go there for more on the Alexey Contraption and real antigravity technology.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...d=1#post317592

[Gambeir]

Until further verification by physical means the following is my final conclusion beginning with the fundamental idea behind the ARV and the Alexey Device as explained by Ken Wheeler and Henry Stevens. Stevens because he concisely explains the fundamental ideas about the Universe applying a pressure to surrounding space, and Wheeler because he explains what that pressure really is as a dielectric energy field which ultimately is the causation of not only magnetism, but of gravity as we understand it.

The physical evidence supporting how gravity really works was suppressed, ignored, and ridiculed, and thanks to the criminal accomplices in the colleges and universities, the mass media, and corporate military contractors, the true and somewhat simple idea behind what causes gravity was never made public.

The dielectric field is what creates gravity in the form of magnetic fields in matter. It is the inwards accretion of counterspace which is a dielectric energy field that spins counter space into a coherent dielectric line of force which we see as a magnetic line of force. The dielectric field is ultimately horizontal to the surface of a planet as the magnetic planes are perpendicular to the surface. This is why I and others have had confusion over whether these are repulsion machines or if they are false mass drives. That confusion has been created by imagining that there are repelling electrons being ejected towards the earth in the form of negative charged particles, when in reality it is the re-orienting of the gravitational dielectric induction field which is taking place. Otherwise Mantim Lee's analysis would have to be correct, and with that kind of power to weight ratio the Alexey would have been on Mar's in 30 minutes or less. Therefore some other explanation has to exist, and so it does.


There are two magnetic planes in the ARV which also have two dielectric planes that work to change the direction /orientation of the dielectric fields induced weight. Weight is a quality of directional inertial force created when the surrounding dielectric counter spatial field acts upon matter producing an inwards accretion plane, and the greater or more energetic this accretion plane is, then the greater a given mass will weigh; previously and mistakenly called gravity, the creation of weight is hinged upon this understanding and is modifiable through other means. A magnet proves this is correct and the inertial accretion plane is visible with a ferocell. It is also testable while gravity seems to be entirely theoretical and mathematically based conjecture.

The bottom plates in the ARV have a dielectric conductor in the form of quartz, which is also is a piezoelectric material, and so the idea here is that using this material allows for the electrification of the dielectric field and the lines of force which are produced. I assume this is needed because it adds propulsive power as force applied in the same way that an electric current may exert a force. Electrification enhances and simplifies control and manipulation via a secondary magnetic field which in the ARV is the smaller electromagnet that surrounds the upper crew compartment.

One magnetic plane along with it's own dielectric inertial force is acted upon by a second magnetic plane with it's own dielectric inertial force, which when applied correctly alters the direction of the mass inertial force. In other words, it changes the direction of gravity to put it simply, although really the less you revert to using that outdated idea the better off you will be.

I think you can see this in both the Alexey and the ARV designs. When you look at the Alexey it is nearly an inverted ARV with the dielectric inertial plane overhead instead of underneath as in the ARV. You should question the odds of this happening by accidental design.

[spacecase0]

here is an idea,
let us say that you get a gravity field generator working,
how do you power it ?
you need to extract power out somewhere to run the thing.
and all of what we see so far of the fluxliner and other tests with spinning magnetic disks don't show any clear way to extract energy.
I was wondering this when I remembered the fluid spotted in the central core of the ships told about from abduction stories.
so, if I were trying to get power from something that had an unequal gravity field, I might set up tubes in a loop with some heavy liquid and use its motion to turn a generator (some sort of water wheel type setup), and the heavier the liquid, the better it would work, so mercury would be ideal.
I think this idea fits pretty well with the entire design and what little we have been told from ones who saw it all working.

[Gambeir]

here is an idea,
let us say that you get a gravity field generator working,
how do you power it ?
you need to extract power out somewhere to run the thing.
and all of what we see so far of the fluxliner and other tests with spinning magnetic disks don't show any clear way to extract energy.
I was wondering this when I remembered the fluid spotted in the central core of the ships told about from abduction stories.
so, if I were trying to get power from something that had an unequal gravity field, I might set up tubes in a loop with some heavy liquid and use its motion to turn a generator (some sort of water wheel type setup), and the heavier the liquid, the better it would work, so mercury would be ideal.
I think this idea fits pretty well with the entire design and what little we have been told from ones who saw it all working.

I think you've unraveled the power system of the ARV with that idea. Makes a good deal of sense to me because it also fits Wheeler's explanation of electricity as longitudinal dynamic polarization; like a line from a magnet pulled outwards it would then form a curled line.


"Electricity is Ether in a state of dynamic polarization; magnetism is Ether in a state of dynamic circular polarization upon itself, is the radiative termination of electrical discharge; dielectricity is the Ether under stress or strain. The motions and strains of the Ether give rise to electrification. Phi times Psi gives Q; ‘electrons’ do not mediate these electrical and magnetic forces or their likewise the Ether fields. There are no electrons, negative charges, special-dimensions, warped space (resoundingly denied by Tesla and others), and no photons; only charge, induction and radiation/discharges and their relational spins, all as mediated through the Ether."
Ken Wheeler