An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

Thanks all for the great posts. Seriously, so much in these and enjoyable too. What I want people to see is another side. Hold this idea in the back of your mind; that the alien meme is really another magical song being played by the system: it's an ancient melody being played by a piper who plays a magical song on his magic flute.. The magic flute is playing another magical song and this song is about a planned agenda by the rulers to re-create/re-cast themselves over the rest of humanity: They long for the past and absolute rulership. Pay attention, do not become lost in this music, you know the story of what happens to those who do.

The message of the propagandists is that our knowledge, our technology, comes from aliens: This is a dangerous idea to buy in to. It is nothing less that a re-vamped story of creation with God replaced by Aliens. Our rulers will be quick to claim their blood lines come from these same ancient astronauts; same as some of them have already tried to link themselves to the blood line of Jesus Christ. Whether you yourselves recognize it or not, the religions of the world are involved in remaking themselves, even as they destroy themselves: In destruction there is creation, and it takes destruction to create something new. Make no mistake, this is happening now, the third world war is underway already: Has been for some time, and when it's finished the plan is to arrive once more back to where recorded history started. With a line of absolute rulers ruling over this planet, and with the means to enforce their will.

Now then, this story of alien super beings, vers the stupid humans, especially the slave species part, is specifically engineered to plant the idea in your head that you're a dumb ape suitable for slavery and who should be appreciative of the choices your self appointed rulers make.

This song being played about Aliens and super superior technology is a magical song. I'd be a liar if I said it wasn't an attractive song I myself have followed for a long time. However, the song is not intended to lead to good things, and so long as you recognize the ulterior motives behind the music then it's useful to listen to, otherwise it can present a danger to clear thinking. Realize that the Wright Brothers had been flying round for almost a year before a local annoyed new paper finally sent a reporter out to investigate all these crazy reports of a flying machine that people on a passing train keep sending them. Obviously lunatics seeing birds ya know.

In 50 years we went from that machine to a Heinkel jet, a Messeschmitt jet fighter, a rocket powered interceptor, and the first ballistic missile. That was over 75 years ago, and if the Nazi's also conquered gravity, as the evidence implicates that they did, then where would the budget of the US military alone have taken us?

If we are to believe the Garry McKinnion story then yes there are Aliens, and a hidden secret civilization, a quasi international one evidently, and it is already out there in space working with these other life forms. That is a real story and all this thread is really about is liberating ourselves mentally enough to see how much has been stolen from all us by understanding basic ideas behind these machines, and which this corporate military dictatorship already knows about, and has known about for 75 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon

William Colby was supposedly going to secretly hand over some free energy documents as his gesture to humanity and he was found floating in the Wicomico River, a tributary of the Potomac: What won't these people do?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Colby

We have to figure it out. We are never ever going to be helped to anything other than slavery, misery, and death at the hands of the existing system. Even if aliens are out there, even if they are visiting, there's nothing which suggests that any of them have empathy and want to help humanity. For all appearances it look like they are at least as bad as the people who are calling the shots right here on earth right now. I don't see any of them leaving free energy blue prints on desks, or any thing else useful, and so why then, upon seeing this corrupted slave system, wouldn't they do that? Am I to believe that these super beings cannot locate some choice individuals to make some small gifts too? So ya know it isn't adding up for me, at least not in a good way, and so we have to do what MIT, Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and the rest won't do, which is to help humanity with the knowledge they themselves hide beneath layers of academic BS, or what the supposed patriots of the military system in their black projects keep hidden away that we all pay for.

So I guess the first step in my mind is to stop listening to them, listening to their explanations, their supposed impossible means to accomplish what is manifestly not impossible, which is antigravity. That's kind of where I began long ago. I listened to the supposed explanations for how the TR-3B worked and I concluded it was impossibly stupid and unbelievable, and so there had to be another logical means. Especially since I think the Germans managed to do it in the 1940's.

[Stealth]

yes, I do believe there is much deception on the part of the military industrial complex. Even so, there is always some thread of truth involved to make it somewhat realistic and believable. That evidence is always made obscure by those who want it kept secret. One example is that a flying machine crashed into a windmill in Aurora Texas in 1893. This was years before any flying machine was built on earth, All we had then was hot air balloons, and it certainly wasn't one of them. Hundred witnessed it and the local newspaper reported it. It made front page news for all the neighboring towns to see. So, how could this possibly be explained? They even claimed to have buried the pilot, a small humanoid of approximately 3 feet in height. Being many years prior to the Wright brothers, who are the officially recognized inventors of the original first flying machine, leaves us with a curious dilemma. Where did this flying machine originate? Not much investigation had been done on this until several years ago when someone was looking back through some old archives and discovered the newspaper article. Since then most of the evidence had been removed. Steslth

[Gambeir]

yes, I do believe there is much deception on the part of the military industrial complex. Even so, there is always some thread of truth involved to make it somewhat realistic and believable. That evidence is always made obscure by those who want it kept secret. One example is that a flying machine crashed into a windmill in Aurora Texas in 1893. This was years before any flying machine was built on earth, All we had then was hot air balloons, and it certainly wasn't one of them. Hundred witnessed it and the local newspaper reported it. It made front page news for all the neighboring towns to see. So, how could this possibly be explained? They even claimed to have buried the pilot, a small humanoid of approximately 3 feet in height. Being many years prior to the Wright brothers, who are the officially recognized inventors of the original first flying machine, leaves us with a curious dilemma. Where did this flying machine originate? Not much investigation had been done on this until several years ago when someone was looking back through some old archives and discovered the newspaper article. Since then most of the evidence had been removed. Steslth

Yea, well stealing from archives, creating false stories, laying traps, plotting long and twisted story lines are the bread and butter of perverted minds, and if they don't work in the news media then they find employment in intelligence services, both private and state, because there are none responsible to the public at large obviously enough.

From Wikipedia.

Statements to the media
McKinnon has admitted in many public statements that he obtained unauthorised access to computer systems in the United States including those mentioned in the United States indictment. He states his motivation, drawn from a statement made before the Washington Press Club on 9 May 2001 by "The Disclosure Project", was to find evidence of UFOs, antigravity technology, and the suppression of "free energy", all of which he states to have proven through his actions.[35][36]

In an interview televised on the BBC's Click programme,[37] McKinnon stated that he was able to get into the military's networks simply by using a Perl script that searched for blank passwords; in other words his report suggests that there were computers on these networks with the default passwords active.

In his interview with the BBC, he also stated of "The Disclosure Project" that "they are some very credible, relied-upon people, all saying yes, there is UFO technology, there's anti-gravity, there's free energy, and it's extraterrestrial in origin and [they've] captured spacecraft and reverse engineered it." He said he investigated a NASA photographic expert's claim that at the Johnson Space Center's Building 8, images were regularly cleaned of evidence of UFO craft, and confirmed this, comparing the raw originals with the "processed" images. He stated to have viewed a detailed image of "something not man-made" and "cigar shaped" floating above the northern hemisphere, and assuming his viewing would be undisrupted owing to the hour, he did not think of capturing the image because he was "bedazzled", and therefore did not think of securing it with the screen capture function in the software at the point when his connection was interrupted.[38]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon

16 minute interview here.
Gary McKinnon - Hacker - Snotr

[aljhoa]

And also a more effective "Computer Language" would be the one that directly communicates with processors, just like low level languages as the "Assembler" or "Machine Language"

As is described by Isaac...all this symbols-written parts "come alive" when in the presence of a "specific field", as each one has specific functions to execute...so, the whole "computer" including all the "peripherals" will "turn on" under the influence of a field...just as when we press that small "On Switch" which closes all circuits that starts up MULTIPLE FUNCTIONS within our PC's.

Daniel T., the world’s greatest mental athlete.


Al

[Gambeir]

Going backwards, for now, and back to post 185 by Thx1138.

Back on page 7 Thx1138 made a post (*185) about gravity shielding being necessary on the pretext that a loss of mass might create a state where electrons wouldn't, or might not flow, and thus the ARV needed a light control {fiber optics} type of system: This explanation coming from Mark McCandlish in explanation to his design for an optical light control system {fiber optics}.

However this presents a problem and Thx1138 asks what then happens to the human body if mass cancellation caused electrons to not flow/move, and wouldn't this then require that the crew be shielded from mass canceling effects?

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...vehicle-7.html

Thx1138 then follows with this;
Shielding, as described by Fran De Aquino, does not alter the mass of the vehicle or its occupants but nullifies the effect of gravity on whatever is inside the plasma surrounding the vehicle as if the force of gravity cannot penetrate the plasma. As I understand it, it is somewhat analogous to using an umbrella in the rain with the water being the gravity and the umbrella the shield.
https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/9904/9904018.pdf


What I have to ask is why this conclusion? Why imagine that mass cancellation would stop an electron? All things are relative and this idea seems like a kind of reversed logic leaping to a conclusion where there's no basis to imagine a change in state. If anything, I would imagine that a loss of mass in matter would create an increased field of energy, a more energetic electron, and which would then pose a potential problem.

Here the McCandlish fiber optic control system would again make sense as a simplification of an otherwise complex wiring system that would need to be shielded. However, the question is what of the occupants? I would suggest that the threat to the occupants is from increased radiation of energies, and that the original design used cable shielding, which would sensibly be up-graded to a fiber optic control system at some point, but that the design does retain a protective spherical crew compartment, and indicating that the threat isn't from a loss a mass but from other energies.


This is then alternatively an article about electromagnetic wave absorbing materials such as graphite and those being developed under the name of GNP–epoxy composites for use as electromagnetic wave absorbing material.

Dielectric and microwave attenuation properties of graphene nanoplatelet–epoxy composites
http://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4863687

The nature of the electron
https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0512/0512265.pdf

[Gambeir]

I've been reviewing the thread because with so much information now posted it's necessary: Necessary in order to see what could not be seen before.

Aliens in the Attic.

I'm Obstinate about Aliens for a reason; read the collected articles and posts at Grey Falcon. This is one of my all time favorite sites BTW. For example scroll down a tad and read the article by Tim Matthews; "The New Nazi ET Lie. Claimed Non-Terrestrial Disc Aircraft Development in German Possession

Notice here that Matthews' article makes the things I've said about the probable origins of antigravity spacecraft look like they came out of the Sicherheltsdienst. I'm not sure if this qualifies me as an A-man: agents in the field, or as a U-man: corrupt and unreliable, but my intention is to show that, either way, this technology has been a part of history trailing back to the last Global War. It might not be of Nazi origins, but it's history dates back to that epoch of time. The SD - History Learning Site


Post #180 on page 6 by Thx1138 has a link to Fran de Aquinos' paper on gravitational spacecraft. This is a 74 page white paper. I think this paper has some interesting information which is cross connected and may be useful if reviewed. Fran de Aquino is known for his writings on this subject. Maybe someone has a replication link or some other related info.
https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/9904/9904018.pdf


One might then review this link and look for improvements. This is an extremely interesting link in my opinion. The author shows his design and explains it. This is a candidate for replication.Since this design is based around an understanding of tornado's, one other element not mentioned is radioactivity, and depending on locations, radioactive dust particles are a part of nature and may then also form a part of the creation process. Considering Frand de Aquinos' suggestions then it's a natural to consider Americium 234 lining the inside hull.
https://translate.google.com/transla...new_page_6.htm



This 1964 patent by Ryan Aeronautical Company, Inventor Gradecak Vjekoslav for an Electric aerospace propulsion system is worth reviewing for the way the supposed system operates. There appears to me to be similarities in this design which relate to other ideas involving ionization and moving charged particles.
https://www.google.com/patents/US3177654

*Note, I believe the ARV's outer hull is coated with a carbon/graphite compound which is slightly radioactive. This mirrors Fran de Aquinos' suggestion for Americium 234

*Note Some of the wording in these patents are now appearing to be corrupted. I corrected a number of errors in the following extract, and have guessed that the word "TILE" was the correct word. Extensive run on's and other apparent meddlings are present throughout the PDF.

This patent talks mysteriously about a substance to enhance air ionization, which we know now is a radioactive substance, and thus I guessed that the corrupted wording was originally a "tile" because using a radioactive tile would make sense given what is now understood about radioactivity enhancing the ionization of air molecules.

Who knows what Ryan Aviation thought was an acceptable radioactive substance, but given the history of American bsusiness and the US military they probably figured the stronger the better: Probably got out the sharp pencil's and got down to figuring exactly where the kill factor figured into radioactivity in air ionization. Probably got it all plotted down to how much time a pilot could spend in the ship before death or hair loss became an issue.

Extract;
"Another object of this invention is to provide an electric propulsion system in which extremely high voltages are used to ionize a fluid in a coronal discharge field, the ionized fluid being accelerated by extremely high powered magnetic pulses. which produce a pinch effect in the propulsion chamber. r

A further object of this invention is to provide an electric propulsion system in which the propulsion unit chamber is open at both ends so that in atmosphere, air is admitted to the chamber and ionized to form plasma, the un-ionized air being entrained by the accelerated plasma and adding to the mass flow to increase thrust.

It is another object of this invention to provide an electric propulsion system wherein a supply of colloids is used as a source a of plasma for operation in space tile ionization being. enhanced by an auxiliary source of radiation in the vicinity of the coronal discharge."

An ionization smoke detector uses a radioisotope, typically americium-241.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_detector#Ionization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americium

[Gambeir]

I would like to present the primary ideas which I believe are involved in the ARV. In my opinion these pieces of information form the foundations upon which an ARV like vehicle can be created.


The story of the invention of the ARV begins (I think) with an observation by Éleuthère Mascart in 1886. Mascart reported that; "At very high speed a disk jumped upwards due to an unknown force."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89...3%A8re_Mascart

Then in 1960 Dr. Marcel Pagès explained and patented what he believed was an electromagnetic Magnus effect. This Patent is archived here.
FR1253902 (pdf).
http://blazelabs.com/pagesbrevet1253902.pdf

Examinations of this patent may be found here.

Marcel Pagès brevet
Marcel PAGES 1924Â* - © Cetin BAL - GSM:+90Â* 05366063183 -Turkiye/Denizli

Engineer Xavier Borg @ Blaze Labs Research replicates this experiment and explains the behavior.
Experiments: Experiment 10

Next we have the work of Thomas Townsend Brown and Paul Alfred Biefeld. The most significant aspect of which is the understanding of vacuum polarization created by a capacitor: More so in my opinion than the otherwise more well followed dissymmetry of charged fields demonstrated with high voltage experiments.

The importance of which is demonstrated in the video series of John Iwaszko.
http://www.antigravity.net.au/
AurumSolis Technologies
Inspiring Technological Innovation

Lastly we have the really solid work of Mahmoud E. Yousif.
http://www.exmfpropulsions.com/
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...vehicle-5.html
EXTERNAL MAGNETIC FIELD PROPULSION AND FLYING OBJECTS
http://www.exmfpropulsions.com/New_P...on/ExMF-PS.htm

https://contest.techbriefs.com/2017/...ystems-exmf-ps



Anyone who has an interest in UFO's knows that the biggest problem in trying to understand how they may work is the amount of ideas and information which exist. It's a giant jigsaw puzzle out there. This NASA Publication shows this is an issue even for NASA.

NASA/TM—2004-213406 (December 2004) Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Project: Project Management Methods.

See page 22 of the linked pdf for a clear illustration of a NASA chart showning some of the many ideas and theories for advanced propulsion systems.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/c...0050041926.pdf


In many ways this NASA chart is a mirror to history. It mirrors the same confused path taken by early pioneers in aviation: Many ideas with many potential pathways and most are unknown or unproven ones.

Scientific Education.

It's been both an advantage and a disadvantage to lack formalized education in material science. An advantage to lack a formalized education in material science because what I've found is that the more my mind is trained in formalized science, the more it closes off what I might otherwise imagined.

John Taylor Gatto tells us that the primary purpose of traditional edcuation systems is to close off of the imagination. This is the primary purpose of the Prussian Stlye educational system. It's whole purpose was built with this intent: Try then to keep your imagination intact whilst endeavouring.

[phoneboy]

Bingo, part1

I would like to present the primary ideas which I believe are involved in the ARV. In my opinion these pieces of information form the foundations upon which an ARV like vehicle can be created.


The story of the invention of the ARV begins (I think) with an observation by Éleuthère Mascart in 1886. Mascart reported that; "At very high speed a disk jumped upwards due to an unknown force."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89...3%A8re_Mascart

Then in 1960 Dr. Marcel Pagès explained and patented what he believed was an electromagnetic Magnus effect. This Patent is archived here.
FR1253902 (pdf).
http://blazelabs.com/pagesbrevet1253902.pdf

Examinations of this patent may be found here.

Marcel Pagès brevet
Marcel PAGES 1924Â* - © Cetin BAL - GSM:+90Â* 05366063183 -Turkiye/Denizli

Engineer Xavier Borg @ Blaze Labs Research replicates this experiment and explains the behavior.
Experiments: Experiment 10

Next we have the work of Thomas Townsend Brown and Paul Alfred Biefeld. The most significant aspect of which is the understanding of vacuum polarization created by a capacitor: More so in my opinion than the otherwise more well followed dissymmetry of charged fields demonstrated with high voltage experiments.

The importance of which is demonstrated in the video series of John Iwaszko.
http://www.antigravity.net.au/
AurumSolis Technologies
Inspiring Technological Innovation

Lastly we have the really solid work of Mahmoud E. Yousif.
http://www.exmfpropulsions.com/
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...vehicle-5.html
EXTERNAL MAGNETIC FIELD PROPULSION AND FLYING OBJECTS
http://www.exmfpropulsions.com/New_P...on/ExMF-PS.htm

https://contest.techbriefs.com/2017/...ystems-exmf-ps



Anyone who has an interest in UFO's knows that the biggest problem in trying to understand how they may work is the amount of ideas and information which exist. It's a giant jigsaw puzzle out there. This NASA Publication shows this is an issue even for NASA.

NASA/TM—2004-213406 (December 2004) Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Project: Project Management Methods.

See page 22 of the linked pdf for a clear illustration of a NASA chart showning some of the many ideas and theories for advanced propulsion systems.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/c...0050041926.pdf


In many ways this NASA chart is a mirror to history. It mirrors the same confused path taken by early pioneers in aviation: Many ideas with many potential pathways and most are unknown or unproven ones.

Scientific Education.

It's been both an advantage and a disadvantage to lack formalized education in material science. An advantage to lack a formalized education in material science because what I've found is that the more my mind is trained in formalized science, the more it closes off what I might otherwise imagined.

John Taylor Gatto tells us that the primary purpose of traditional edcuation systems is to close off of the imagination. This is the primary purpose of the Prussian Stlye educational system. It's whole purpose was built with this intent: Try then to keep your imagination intact whilst endeavouring.

Wonderful!
You found the links pertaining to the operation of the aluminum disc.
BTW, my apologies for missing your PM.
Do you remember my post about creating a magnetic field without a current flowing thru a conductor, and what you don't see in the image due to it's perspective?
Simple, and easily explainable.

[RAMSET]

perhaps Oxide coating or ??

Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge

a very good fellow shared this a few years back at OU.com [member Techstuff]

a snip from the short read

Snip"
Two researchers, Kowsky and Frost apparently were studying the piezo-electric effect in rochelle salt crystals and came upon an odd discovery. Suffice it to say, further research with quartz crystals seemed to reveal a change in atomic structure.....the quartz is purported to have stretched in proportion on all sides and became quite opaque. Also, when subjected to extended excitation from high tension DC current through the crystal while subjecting the crystal to HF radio energy perpendicular to the flow of electricity, the crystal became quite buoyant managing eventually to suspend some 55lbs above the table. The article was heralded on the cover of the Sept. issue and was reported in all seriousness ending with words to this effect: " this report appeared in a reliable german periodical, Radio Umschau"

end snip
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respectfully submitted

Chet K
ps I will remove it if too far off topic...

[Gambeir]

Wonderful!
You found the links pertaining to the operation of the aluminum disc.
BTW, my apologies for missing your PM.
Do you remember my post about creating a magnetic field without a current flowing thru a conductor, and what you don't see in the image due to it's perspective?
Simple, and easily explainable.

*Not holding you or anyone else to anything mind you, just asking for present thoughts and ideas, all subject to modification obviously.

Your posts, yes, your statement, no. Likely it just went right past me because it probably made no sense to me at the time, but now of course it's all magically clear. Also I gather your reference to perspective refers to the ARV illustration and a possible location for a HV source? If so what are your thoughts now on the half round balls seen under many other early UFO's; could these also be HV sources, and functioning in a similar manner? I'm asking myself how exactly. We need to discus this I think.
Read my response to Ramset.

I also agree that the disc would seem an obvious part of a magnetic field generator. The question I have is it is just a part of a total system? Here it may be that you understand this better yourself but it doesn't seem to me that a single large disc would be sufficient. On the other hand, the magnetic field phenomena of 100% transference enables force multiplication by stacking. This would suggest that a system of stacked discs might be a more likely probability or useful idea to keep handy; all this recent material has me thinking of hover boards: Like a 60 year old should be thinking of hover boards huh? Well crazy is as crazy does.

My other thoughts on this magnetic field generator relate back to the center columns' spirals. Here I've been turning over ideas about what may be going on. Please share any of your own thoughts or ideas you might have.

I think that we are now on to the crux of the matter and that these last few posts, by yourself and by Ramset are critically significant in this inquiry. I still have many questions but I think that there are those here, whom like yourself, can instantly connect up an arcane bit of information to the seemingly mysterious functions contained in this design.

Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge

a very good fellow shared this a few years back at OU.com [member Techstuff]

a snip from the short read

Snip"
Two researchers, Kowsky and Frost apparently were studying the piezo-electric effect in rochelle salt crystals and came upon an odd discovery. Suffice it to say, further research with quartz crystals seemed to reveal a change in atomic structure.....the quartz is purported to have stretched in proportion on all sides and became quite opaque. Also, when subjected to extended excitation from high tension DC current through the crystal while subjecting the crystal to HF radio energy perpendicular to the flow of electricity, the crystal became quite buoyant managing eventually to suspend some 55lbs above the table. The article was heralded on the cover of the Sept. issue and was reported in all seriousness ending with words to this effect: " this report appeared in a reliable german periodical, Radio Umschau"

end snip
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respectfully submitted

Chet K
ps I will remove it if too far off topic...

Your post is precisely on target and timely. Mark McCandlish has said that he thought there is a RF system/antenna, and which he suggests is the ring like object surrounding the disc on the outer walls of the vehicle. The disc is located beneath the pilots seats and which appears to be a floor. Others have speculated that this disc could be working as a gyroscope, which it would also function as if it does, in fact, rotate/spin. This ring or antenna is sectioned in the illustration. It's upper top section then forms the deck of the walkway around the outer upper part of the hull where the entry hatch is located.

A levitating disc as demonstrated in Xavier Borgs' experiment demonstrates a means to produce a magnetic field which could function as an alternative to a superconductor; a work round to a problem where a technical solution to a desired effect is unavailable.

A superconductor expels the magnetic field, whereas Dr. Marcel Pagès levitating disc actually creates a magnetic field in a unique way. They do two completely opposite things but oddly enough this can be made to stand on it's head to fulfill the desired effect.

Another quality of the magnetic field phenomena is it's ability to transfer 100% through a dielectric and to then multiply itself thence one on top of another field. Stacking magnets is an analogy here.

Xavier Borg says in relation to EM radiation;
"This frequency is quite low as the value will be equal to the disc's RPM, which due to its mechanical limitations cannot go into the Mhz region."
Experiments: Experiment 10

Oh so now another problem in creating a powerful enough magnetic field relates back to the mechanical limitation of the spinning disc? Well probably not because there's an obvious work round to the problem because it stands to reason that antenna Mark is talking about is likely receiving microwaves.

This then takes us back to the capacitors in the base of the vehicle and the crystalline nature of these contraptions.
So now the question is if we are now ready to begin assembling a probable picture of the ARV's operating systems?
More importantly, can we now begin to form some ideas for home brewed systems?

[spacecase0]

I can't find the link right now,
but a self excited homo polar generator can make an infinite magnetic field with a finite amount of current going through it.
the ARV might need an infinitely (or close to it) strong magnetic field for some reason
so what I am trying to say is that the ARV generating a very very large magnetic field is quite possible

[Gambeir]

I can't find the link right now,
but a self excited homo polar generator can make an infinite magnetic field with a finite amount of current going through it.
the ARV might need an infinitely (or close to it) strong magnetic field for some reason
so what I am trying to say is that the ARV generating a very very large magnetic field is quite possible

Be sure to read the link over at Rense that Ramset posted.
"Magnetism may be thought of as 'coherent gravity' of a particular 'wavelength' or gravity may be thought of as 'full spectrum magnetism."
Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge

The link has some interesting thoughts about the nature of gravity. It also brings out some concise information on the Kowsky/Frost experiments with rochelle salt crystals; "excitation from high tension DC current through the crystal while subjecting the crystal to HF radio energy perpendicular to the flow of electricity,"

The author then links the Kowsky and Frost experiments to a UFO Incident: Height 611 UFO Incident. Read the chemical analysis at the Wikipedia link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_611_UFO_incident.

Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge.
"Apparently, a UFO crashed on Hill 611 and debris was recovered which contained a matrix of fine gold wire substrate sheathed in quartz. One can readily imagine a scenario involving the skin of the craft, or portions thereof, being covered with the material charged electrically by the gold wire and subjected to the proper RF energy perpendicularly from within the craft."
Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge

Importantly the author relates a personal story of a black triangle sighting where he estimates the size of the vehicle, which is useful information for estimating altitudes, where he thinks it was about 70 feet in length. This sounds about right based on my own observation of the same type of vehicle.

There is a photo at the link of this vehicle which, though it resembles a kite, is what I also saw. I used Tin Eye to backtrack the image to the largest one I could find. It also looks like the same vehicle in the only video I've ever seen of this vehicle in action, taken over Mt Baldy in CA of last year, and which I previously talked about here in this thread; where the author mysteriously scrubbed the video from Youtube after a couple days: Evidently after being visited by men in suits. So I have no doubt whatsoever that these triangles are terrestrial and that obviously we have had these for a long time; Splain's 75% taxation, Gary McKinnions' run in with the Nut Jobs at the Dept against Justice and these supposedly fantasy vehicles https://i.imgur.com/IlW8Mkp.jpg Truth exposes the complete farce called politics for the mind controlling program that it honestly is. It exposes the phony international conflicts for the sham of warfare making as another part of this mind controlling agenda while looting the people of resources by the corporate elites. It exposes the pretend masquerade of military spending for the purposes of off world space based civilization building: That's the reality which is so precious that they will kill to hide it from the people.



Evidently this image is located somewhere's on this site.
Marcianitos Verdes

It's also interesting to note that the author seems to accurately describe the magnetic field as demonstrated by the video's of Ufopolitics while the article, "Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge" is itself from 2004. I think this is an extremely interesting article for a number of reasons, another one of which is the authors speculative ideas about the truth behind black holes, and which would then sort of put a large black eye on the face of so-called expert scientists lying ass stories about the nature of space.



Additionally, previously posted in this thread; the Kowsky and Frost piezo-electric effect in rochelle salt crystals. Post 71 on Page 3. http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...vehicle-3.html
Replicated link to Dan Winter's PDF for his own Implosion Group Crystal Propulsion Proposal.
http://www.fractalfield.com/propulsi...Propulsion.pdf

[spacecase0]

I must have missed that crystal thing the first time around,
it looks pretty easy to test,
that is if I had a really high power low frequency radio amplifier, at least it is in the frequency range of the high power somewhat low priced transistors
I just tried 20 or so watts with magnetic coils around a chunk of quarts and it did nothing (I literally had all the hardware already setup for something else, so I thought I would try it)
guess it is time to build an amplifier,
if I ever get some expanded crystals, then I will try them in the capacitors of an electrogravic setup.

this all also makes sense of leaked info talking about crystals that would loose weight when they put electricity into them, but they could not reproduce the crystals even though they knew what elements they were made out of

[Gambeir]

So I just check back in and where's the image I posted of the Black Triangle?

I repeat the process doing another reverse image search, copy the link once more, then go back to the post and suddenly it's magically re-appeared?

If you don't see the image of the black triangle then copy and paste this link to another window.
http://rense.com/general54/Triangle_3.jpg
http://marcianitosverdes.haaan.com/w...177dorito3.jpg

[Gambeir]

Enlarged and messed around with some color manipulation to see if I could eliminate what might otherwise be painted designs. Here's a UFO Report from a Kook who lives just a few miles away. I saw no fins but my total time of observation was less than 5 seconds. I'm sure it's the same vehicle the other observers saw or at least one very similar. I saw it in July 2017, and he saw it on September 4, 2016. It has also been described as bat like and if you look closely at the thing it has what seems like scalloped sections like a bats wing on the back end. I think the wings and scallops are optical effects caused by energy waves distorting the airwaves.

This image has been called Dorito's. I think this photo was taken in South America (unsure) but I do think this is the same type of vehicle.
Best still image so far.
Updated Image is an Arrowhead-shaped UFO from Glascow, Scottland, 2002.
Kansas woman says UFO blocked out moon and stars (Audio) | Openminds.tv
(Credit: ufocasebook.com)


Underside illustrations of an arrowhead-shaped UFO from a 1989 sighting in Cooper City, FL. (Credit: UFOevidence.org)

Washington witness describes UFO with fins | Openminds.tv


Arrowhead-shaped UFO from Glascow, Scottland, 2002. (Credit: ufocasebook.com)


Arrowhead-shaped UFO from Glascow, Scottland, 2002. (Credit: ufocasebook.com)