An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

Now I don't know for sure whether or not my psychedelic art work honestly means anything or not, but as a primitive form of spectrum analysis it does seem to be revealing.

Xavier Borg writes; "The main radiation one could expect with such a setup is the so called cyclotron radiation."

"Charges flying in circles are continually accelerating, with a centripedal acceleration towards the field lines they are spiraling around. This means they are radiating pure sine-wave electric fields perpendicular to the magnetic filed lines." Experiments: Experiment 10

Additionally and paraphrased from page 7; "Propagation and Dissipation of Ion Cyclotron Waves in the Auroral Ionosphere." http://w3.pppl.gov/~jrj/ICW.pdf

Wave absorption is a function of frequency and angle between the wave vector and magnetic field of the wave. This results in a defined structure in the absorption coefficients with a frequency spacing. Absorption structures increase in frequency with increasing angle suggesting coupling to a compression wave. http://w3.pppl.gov/~jrj/ICW.pdf

Additionally, as another thought towards the workings of the ARV, we know that applying a magnet to certain materials aligns their crystalline structures; in the ARV this magnetic field would be perpendicular to the capacitors. One would imagine then that this magnetic field might have a substantial effect on these capacitors resultant impulses.

[spacecase0]

keeping in mind the new data and all the history,
I am now thinking that this craft is an electric gravity effect like TT brown found, it uses a super high dielectric constant insulator, they are the expanded crystals. (might be able to make them with a spark gap transmitter, or at least that seems to be the lowest cost way to test)
the metals in the capacitor are ones that use the Kondo effect (likely just to reduce total weight of the system),
the high voltage system is likely most of the center core of the device, I am thinking something like an upside down vandergraph generator that uses mercury vapor at the belt, the end contact points are clearly visible at the lower section of the central core, and is controlled where the electricity hits with something like a TV picture tube uses to direct where the picture goes.
the control system switches on and off each section as the contact beam rotates from one contact to another (for the needed pulsing to make the electrogravic effect work) and to what degree each plate gets turned on for steering control (outdating the previous system that used 3 spheres under the craft that were capacitors that could be physically angled for steering control ).
the 2 oppositely rotated switching of the capacitors is to keep the entire thing from rotating after a while of running while allowing you the fancy steering system.
the center disk and coil are a self excited homopolar generator, this is used to generate a very large magnetic field (reaching near infinite), could be used to change how the crystals work, or more than likely (or additionally) is used to give the ship magnetic shielding for when you are going high speeds in space, this shielding will create a large amount of ions hitting the top of that central core, and likely that is where it gets its extra energy to recharge.
the angled nature of the craft seems to me to be focusing the energy created by the capacitors to the main section of the craft, when tesla played with this sort of energy (pretty sure it is the same energy), it would reflect off shiny surfaces (regardless of what they were made of)
did I miss anything, or does that seem about right ?

[Gambeir]

keeping in mind the new data and all the history,
I am now thinking that this craft is an electric gravity effect like TT brown found, it uses a super high dielectric constant insulator, they are the expanded crystals. (might be able to make them with a spark gap transmitter, or at least that seems to be the lowest cost way to test)
the metals in the capacitor are ones that use the Kondo effect (likely just to reduce total weight of the system),
the high voltage system is likely most of the center core of the device, I am thinking something like an upside down vandergraph generator that uses mercury vapor at the belt, the end contact points are clearly visible at the lower section of the central core, and is controlled where the electricity hits with something like a TV picture tube uses to direct where the picture goes.
the control system switches on and off each section as the contact beam rotates from one contact to another (for the needed pulsing to make the electrogravic effect work) and to what degree each plate gets turned on for steering control (outdating the previous system that used 3 spheres under the craft that were capacitors that could be physically angled for steering control ).
the 2 oppositely rotated switching of the capacitors is to keep the entire thing from rotating after a while of running while allowing you the fancy steering system.
the center disk and coil are a self excited homopolar generator, this is used to generate a very large magnetic field (reaching near infinite), could be used to change how the crystals work, or more than likely (or additionally) is used to give the ship magnetic shielding for when you are going high speeds in space, this shielding will create a large amount of ions hitting the top of that central core, and likely that is where it gets its extra energy to recharge.
the angled nature of the craft seems to me to be focusing the energy created by the capacitors to the main section of the craft, when tesla played with this sort of energy (pretty sure it is the same energy), it would reflect off shiny surfaces (regardless of what they were made of)
did I miss anything, or does that seem about right ?

Don't let my own thoughts obscure your ideas for the same reason I wouldn't suggest building a Wright Flyer when all I was really interested in was figuring out the best and cheapest way to make a light aircraft, but at this point I are still a bit unsure what are the wings and where are they? I'm still asking myself what is the engine and what kind of fuel is this plane taking? Any outside ideas may be improvements or alternatives once we do get the gist of aircraft positively nailed down.

*I revised this part of the post
However, despite these issues, here's a thumbnail sketch of my present thoughts. Right now I think that the disc functions as a pump in one respect, acting upon the capacitors, which then produce power feed back into a microwave generator which powers the magnetic field producing disc, and which results in an electromechanical pumping on the capacitors. The expended disc energy is collected via the outer ring antenna and recycled. The atmosphere is the primary re-charging station. Additional re-charging available through other sources such as high power lines. I think that the capacitors and the disc are the primary power system and that the capacitors act as the energy storage system.

* I removed my previous notes about a potential nuclear power source because it was an illogical thoughtless oversight. The capacitor banks are huge and should themselves be capable of acting as the sole sources of energy storage.

I do think the capacitors are providing the primary motive force. I think the disc is primarily or entirely there to operate as an electromechanical pump which drives the capacitor fluxing, which produces energy and may assist in motive force. I could of course be wrong and maybe there's some mathematically inclined persons who would crunch some numbers and see if the disc could be driven to levels capable of producing an magnetic field sufficient to levitate the machine away from the earths magnetic field.

I'm researching right now. However in understanding something it's often best to try to begin with the beginning and I've found a very useful dissertation. This has some specifics on manufacturing piezoelectric specimens for testing. It explains the drawbacks of earlier materials and the reason why these newer materials are superior. This is a 139 page dissertation but interesting and as easy to read as these forms of scientific papers come. I think it's about as clear and good as it gets. lead zirconate titanate (PZT) seems to have been the dominate form of piezoelectric transducing material for a long time while mounting what appears to be a continual search for a Holy Grail. Much has happened since this publication but this is good material to begin with.

Thesis and Dissertation Collection. 1958.
An investigation of lead zirconate titante. Rawlins, Robert D. Monterey, California: U.S. Naval Postgraduate School.
https://calhoun.nps.edu/bitstream/ha...pdf?sequence=1
Theses and Dissertations. Thesis and Dissertation Collection. 1958. An investigation of lead zirconate titante. Rawlins, Robert D. Monterey, California: U.S. Naval Postgraduate School.

*Additionally you will notice that in discussing manufacturing techniques there is a reference to polarity where a magnetic field is applied to induce the arrangement of the crystalline pattern to a desired plane. At least that's what I got by brushing through this. Will have to review it but it makes a lot of sense and fits my own thinking here.

[Gambeir]

John Iwaszko demonstrates power transmitted wirelessly by electromagnetic waves in "free space" from a Tesla Coil Transmitter. Skip to about the 2:20 mark for a quick demo on this. At one point power is transmitted from the Telsa to the rim of the saucer. The primary idea here is to explain the reason high power lines are sources for UFO sightings.

"Antigavity" Method 15b Pt b of 15 -Worlds's 1st Free Flight of A Tesla Coil powered Flying Saucer!
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=ee4Ab3w2hl8[/VIDEO]

[Gambeir]

*Note; if you watch this, which is highly recommended, John poses the question of what's the point of all these toys he demonstrates, and then follows this with a brief clip shown at the around the 26:00 minute mark taken by John himself. This is a remarkable video. It is a repudiation of todays' theoretical physics, it supports the smack down handed out by Mahmoud E. Yousif in his paper on the double slit experiment revisited, and finally the self powered helicopter captured on video should be telling you there's a divergence between what's officially approved science and what is actually real applied science. The implications behind the amount of power it takes to make a full size helicopter fly and wireless power transmission it would be receiving should have your eyeballs rolling in to the back of their sockets. See the 26:00 minute mark for that one. This is Eurocopter Écureuil (Squirrel) series helicopter. Normally I wouldn't think this is possible, but given that the source is one of the most knowledgeable ones available, then I must assume that this is precisely what John is implying in showing this brief clip.

AurumSolis Technologies
Published on Jun 11, 2013
TESLA'S CONNECTION TO COUNTER SPACE-INTRIGUING EXPERIMENTS
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChRKs4fJ02I[/VIDEO]


John Iwaszko;
"TESLA'S PREDICTION REALISED! DOLLARD'S "COUNTER SPACE CONNECTION", BEARDEN'S "FLOW OF ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM OF SPACE TIME"- ACHIEVED AND DEMONSTRATED! SUPPLY OF ENERGY WITHOUT A RETURN WIRE POWERING A LOAD-BONUS- WIRELESS ENERGY FREE FLIGHT OF A HELICOPTER AND A FLYING SAUCER!
Question, why is the electricity and/or heat not conducted or free flowing throughout the entire filament or conductor?
The answer in my own opinion is that well, in short it is but the filament heating and the electrical flow as demonstrated shows the electromagnetic wave as a nodal point created by a standing wave existing between the transmitter and receiving aerials.
Faraday's law of induction is a basic law of electromagnetism that predicts how a magnetic field will interact with an electric circuit to produce an electromotive force (EMF). The Maxwell--Faraday equation is a generalisation of Faraday's law, and forms one of Maxwell's equations.
These laws simply state that every time electricity changes its strength or its direction they will produce electromagnetic waves, but if we include the transmitter aerial and the receiver aerial we have two electromagnetic waves now, the first from the transmitter and the second wave that illuminates the light sources indicating that there is an electric current flowing in the receiving antenna this produces a wave of its own. So the wave travelling out meets the wave travelling back, one will push against the other and they cancel out, so only the peaks of the waves become evident, which is where the light sources illuminate.
If I was to reform the receiver antenna into a loop the connection would be considered complete as a full wave, but the experiments show that the light source illuminates and is connected regardless of an actual physical connection, therefore a counter spatial connection exists in free space and is formed from three primary elements.
A resistive load, the light source which dissipates energy therefore no energy is stored, a capacitor which stores energy in an electric field, there is little energy dissipation in the form of a field in an enclosed space, which is typically bounded by two parallel metallic plates and an insulator or dielectric between. The space surrounding the experiment will have a structure of capacity, and other structures will have other capacities.
And there is also an inductor which stores energy in a magnetic field, which also has no energy dissipation. The lines of force orientate themselves in close loops surrounding the axis of current flow that has given rise to them. The larger the space is between a current that flows within and its images or reflections from other surrounding inductors or aerials allow more energy to be stored in the resulting field.
Once set into motion the completion of the connection is not limited to an actual physical connection of opposite polarity requirements, it finds it own way to complete the circuit once it has commenced when energized by electromagnetic waves of a particular character.
This is why the light source remains illuminated regardless of whether it is earthed or not, it is for the same reason that a transient voltage spike, (that can only be stopped by additional components at best), is created when we switch on or off a generator, the energy is stored by the same phenomenon in question, which in my experiment is actually a series of energy spikes that are measured not in volts but in joules; a transient response defined by a mathematical product of voltage, current, and time.
These multitudes of voltage spikes are created by a rapid buildup and decay of the magnetic field, which induce energy into the aerial. Voltage spikes may be longitudinal (common) mode or metallic (normal or differential) mode.
The effect of these voltage spikes produces corresponding increases in current (current spike). However some voltage spikes may be created by current sources. Voltage would increase as necessary so that a constant current will flow. Currents from a discharging inductor is one example, an inductor is a medium that can store an electrical charge.
In free space it can also be in the form of the dielectricity from the surrounding medium of air. A dielectric is an electrical insulator that can be polarized by an applied electric field and creates the DIPOLE (two poles). The phenomena of formation of dipole is called Polarization (Analogous to magnetization of magnetic dipole).
Polarization can occur in 4 ways:- 1. Electronic Polarization, i.e. Cloud of electrons moves in direction of electric field.2. Orientation Polarization. 3. Space Charge Polarization.4. Atomic Ionic Polarization.
So must be due to electronic polarization and/or a space charge polarization similar to a common form of energy storage device such as a parallel-plate capacitor or in my experiment the capacity of the surrounding structures and air, the "dielectric" in principle in free space."
John Iwaszko

AurumSolis Technologies Home Channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSy...ySk5ARozuB3erw

[Gambeir]

This post is by way of courtesy from Spacecase0. His insight to critical parts of this long story have provided what I think is now a near complete understanding of the basic principles driving the ARV.

The Kowsky and Frost story is an important part in understanding the ARV. It may seem unrelated and a magical like story to some, and because it's aged and it's cloaked with a back-tracked story intending to make it appear a hoax, the story itself becomes the focus instead of what the experiment is telling us.

I did not see this but Spacecase0 did.

As Spacecase0 pointed out, the real secret to the ARV is in the so-called capacitors. These are piezo-electric capacitors (*I think anyways), but what the Kowsky Frost Experiment shows is a kind of special quality in specific crystals. We can trace the understanding of this discovery then to the specifics of the ARV's supposed capacitor construction. This quality is the permittivity of the crystal, and this permittivity is then linked via a Biefield Brown Vacuum Polarization effect that takes place by an applied RF wave.

Originally then, the discovery of super permittivity in some crystallines is covered over, and it's only later that once this is understood that the addition of piezo-electricity is piggybacked on the understanding in the creative form of the ARV.

It's my present thought that the disc creates a magnetic wave which is also a controllable wave. Energy is metered across the disc controlling the quantity of energy passing through it. This can create wave forms in the magnetic field which is created by the disc, and these waves are projected vertically as a magnetic waves, which is an electromagnetic wave and which is/can be a RF wave.

So again, what we have is another case of understanding being piggybacked upon by adding a piezo-electric quality to the Kowsky Frost discovery of super permittivity in a crystal, and then later by adding a RF producing magnetic wave plate above the piezo-electric generating capacitors. The magnetic wave being the productive part of the piezo-electric energy production unit because the capacitors incorporate reactive metals. Diamagnetic metals would assist the deformative process which generates the piezo-electric effect in the capacitors.

The whole contraption works upon vacuum polarization principles inducing a vibrational frequency in the piezo-electric capacitors which is controllable and tunable. It's also creating electrical energy for conversion via the piezo-electric capacitor plates and recycling the expended energy through a RF receiver.

This is my present best and most concise explanation for the ARV's operating system. Spacecase0 probably has a slightly different understanding and nothing is considered set in stone: None of us are hovering around on boards and until that happens everything is subject to revision.

[Gambeir]

* Special Note to TechStuf

I got your PM's. I do not have the authority to give access to new members.
I know that from previous requests by other new members that their email authorizations were being directed in to their junk folders/spam/trash.

Check your folders carefully.

I also cannot contact you via private messages. The system is also reporting your PM system is full. You have to clear the old messages before I can contact you.

Many thanks for passing the info along.

[RAMSET]

Sir
am asking around about replicating this

Experiments: Experiment 10

the resources available to the open source community are staggering !!

any other simple experiments which you would consider ? coatings are all the rage these days ,especially nano coatings .

you're one cool Dude !!

respectfully
Chet K

Edit
PS
if this post is a distraction to the present line of thought.
I will remove it

[spacecase0]

Sir
am asking around about replicating this

Experiments: Experiment 10

the resources available to the open source community are staggering !!

any other simple experiments which you would consider ? coatings are all the rage these days ,especially nano coatings .

you're one cool Dude !!

respectfully
Chet K

Edit
PS
if this post is a distraction to the present line of thought.
I will remove it

the spinning CD thing as part of a high voltage motor is something I have done before with other spinning disks (before CDs were out there),
and they sure spin,
I tried plastic disks and carbide grinding wheels
and used needle points and not spheres as electrodes,
never tried to put a magnetic field on it while it was spinning,
but can't imagine this taking very long to reproduce
my question is, what would reproducing it show us ?

[Gambeir]

Sir
am asking around about replicating this

Experiments: Experiment 10

the resources available to the open source community are staggering !!

any other simple experiments which you would consider ? coatings are all the rage these days ,especially nano coatings .

you're one cool Dude !!

respectfully
Chet K

Edit
PS
if this post is a distraction to the present line of thought.
I will remove it

Thank you for the complement Ramset.

To answer you directly, I don't have any suggestions right now. I'll have to let the grey cells compute for a while. Sometimes they do things without telling me about it: My mind plays tricks on me.

However, despite my many failing, I won't be the only one wearing a dunce cap when the fat lady sings. I feel that Universe is preparing to place a giant dunce cap on heads of "officially approved deniers" Just bet sites like this one vanish overnight. Of course they will then say they never said any such thing.
Hutchison hoax - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

I do know there's a couple people roundabouts who have more advanced information. Hopefully information will begin leaking out more and more as we ourselves unravel the supposed fantasy illustration of Mr. McCandlish which, amazingly now, seems not so fantastical after all.

Now I haven't studied Tomions' work, but he held several patents and which are quite advanced and related. Mark Tomions story is seemingly typical and maddening as well having passed on suddenly and somewhat mysteriously. Where's there's smoke there's fire. Understanding here that Mark's death isn't automatically a result of black ops assassination, but probably is, however we must understand that we ourselves are biological beings monkeying with Universe: Caution and safety procedures. The forces of Universe work in the conceptual ideas underlying these machines.

Mark R. Tomion. Electrodynamic field generator
https://www.google.com/patents/US6404089
Mark Tomion -- Electrodynamic Field Generator
ZPEnergy.com - Mark Tomion (Stardrive device) has passed away in June


There's a lot in this machine which John Hutchison has experience with. It's probably wise to visit John's site. Remember this is the unknown for us peons. We have little to go on other than stories about what can happen.
Teleportation
Experiments
John Hutchison -- "The Hutchison Effect" -- Antigravity & disruption effects -- articles & movies

Alternatively, the pay offs in unraveling the puzzle are huge for us little people. One can only imagine the fun you could have cold casting metals. This is something the Russians supposedly have been capable of doing since the 80's. Just imagine what one could do with some plaster molds and a way to make metal flow without thermal energy. Home manufacturing never got any simpler (smile).

I don't think the system is so fearful of us people building ships and fleeing to Mars or wherever else so much as it is the idea that we won't need them any more. Home energy, home manufacturing, transmutation, and evidently teleportation are seemingly all involved in the principles underlying these machines, as well as what also appears to me to be some kind of time travel like quality.

Haven't had time to sink my teeth in here, but >Blink-Blink!>Ph.D. experimental nuclear physicist.
http://www.doctorkoontz.com/
http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Logs/index.htm
Log book example _ L00K...even if this is beyond you. Scroll through it. Notice the drawings and materials again repeatedly the same as elsewhere.
http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Logs/Log%20Book%2007.htm

John Hutchison Youtube home channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPH...9EVjDx6BOeZwxQ

USA ARMY BATTERY REPLACEMENT UNIT
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by5rh0V5gV0[/VIDEO]

[spacecase0]

new idea

so I went back and re read the wilbert smith info while keeping in mind all I have learned in this thread.
the section that seems to most apply is the one on gravity control that starts at page 61 of this PDF
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Wilb...TensorBeam.pdf
he was trying to make a spinning magnetic field to alter the time field, and altering the time field was how he planned on controlling gravity.
first he said that the only way a magnetic field will spin is to spin it at 90 degrees to the magnetic field lines (not possible to have it spin along the field lines)
to verify that the idea was correct he set up ceramic block magnets pointed up and down, and then put them in the outside edge of a disk and physically spun them. he said this worked. so he then want about trying to make a spinning magnetic field with electrical switching (as mechanical spinning fast enough is just not possible).
he was having issues with the fields combining and not actually making the required spinning field. (I have personally set up switched magnetic coils that would be arranged to make a spinning field, and it does not make the spin field, and he got the same not working result)

so looking at the layout of the ARV,
you have a giant electromagnet pointed up and down powered by the homo polar generator that also uses that magnetic field.
this sort of a self excited homo polar generator can make a magnetic field that is very very large. and by the steel ball that the crew and disk are housed in, it would have to be well past the magnetic saturation of the steel. so, very very large magnetic field.

and then you have electrical switching of high voltage into capacitors making a spinning field.
it occurred to me that the point of these capacitors might be to break up the magnetic field into slices and force it to spin.
you could get it to spin at any rate you wanted that way.

if this is the case, then the electrogravic effect of the expanded crystals in the capacitors would likely only be used for steering control and not as a main drive

and then I would then wonder if the "oxygen tanks" in the drawing were really large electromagnetic coils meant to recover energy that powers the system.

[Gambeir]

Need a like button Spacecase0. Will have to compute this for a while but those are good ideas for sure.

Also refer back to the people at Spacewarp Dynamics which you linked me up with some time ago, and this page specficially on "The Science Behind Bruce Gernon’s Flight."
spacewarp

If you're a follower of this thread then please take a look at the work these people have been involved with doing; they have been at it for quite a while. I find the space drive antenna system very interesting since it so closely matches descriptions of hieroglyphic like writing reported on other supposed alien space craft.
spacewarp

spacewarp | Space Warp 3D fractal design
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=87&v=ovDV711BszM[/VIDEO]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=ovDV711BszM

These people are working on engineering space using warp field metrics. A concept I found hard to understand for quite a while, but essentially this is what Harold E. Puthoff is writing about in his papers on Spacetime Metric's. Frankly metrics as applied to the so-called engineering of spacetime is a baffeling and unhelpful choice of terminology, even if it it is a somewhat accurate statement. The ARV is also engineering the vacuum of space time with it's analog like system, whereas these people are working a solid state version: Transistor Radios as compared to Vacuum Tube Radios don't seem to resemble each other very much but they are both radios, and so now the idea here is to begin to make connections between these two forms; the analog version of metric engineering spacetime, and the solid state version of metric engineering spacetime.

Typically an analog system is much easier to comprehend and thus is helpful in understanding the solid state version. Although the folks at Spacewarp Dynamics are obviously on the right track, they have little resources and no real visible support. It's not like Lockheed has beaten a pathway to the front door and this is itself telling. Now why do you suppose that would be? Remember these things?

https://dandare.wordpress.com/2008/0...ing-on-part-1/
https://web.archive.org/web/20080409...rtunecity.com/

Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metric) Engineering
https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2184

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1sUE_oUcAIMXLx.jpg
https://twitter.com/swarpdynamics

[spacecase0]

thank you for the reminder of the other methods this is done, and there appears to be a common element to it
it sure looks like a magnetic field pointed up, and spinning in a horizontal circle is how this is done.
the ARV uses a standard magnetic field and cuts it up and spins it with an electric field and has integrated electrogravics for steering
the drone thing appears to do the same thing, only it uses open wires on top, and external electrogravics for steering
the holographic antenna of the spacewarp people makes the magnetic and electric field all wrapped up together in complex shapes, and I don't think I can model that in my head

by looking at the pictures of the drone thing, on the inside of it you can see either insulators or coils between the base of the verticalish rods.
and you don't put external components with clearance somewhere when they are not high voltage, they look like 6 to 8 inches, so that should tell about the voltages involved. and that seems close to the reported in the ARV. also reminds me of what I have seen of voltage required to entirely strip the electrons from the outside of an element
sure I may have got this wrong, but at least it it gives some sort of starting point.
suppose I should use wilbert smith's rotating magnets to get some idea of how fast the fields need to be spun, that should tell if it can be done with physical switches (like a car distributor), or if it must be done with electrical switching to be fast enough

[Gambeir]

thank you for the reminder of the other methods this is done, and there appears to be a common element to it
it sure looks like a magnetic field pointed up, and spinning in a horizontal circle is how this is done.
the ARV uses a standard magnetic field and cuts it up and spins it with an electric field and has integrated electrogravics for steering
the drone thing appears to do the same thing, only it uses open wires on top, and external electrogravics for steering
the holographic antenna of the spacewarp people makes the magnetic and electric field all wrapped up together in complex shapes, and I don't think I can model that in my head

by looking at the pictures of the drone thing, on the inside of it you can see either insulators or coils between the base of the verticalish rods.
and you don't put external components with clearance somewhere when they are not high voltage, they look like 6 to 8 inches, so that should tell about the voltages involved. and that seems close to the reported in the ARV. also reminds me of what I have seen of voltage required to entirely strip the electrons from the outside of an element
sure I may have got this wrong, but at least it it gives some sort of starting point.
suppose I should use wilbert smith's rotating magnets to get some idea of how fast the fields need to be spun, that should tell if it can be done with physical switches (like a car distributor), or if it must be done with electrical switching to be fast enough

Thanks Spacecase0, well I noticed some of what you're talking about as well. Going to have think more about these now that we are no longer clueless. One thing you can bet on though, if these are ours, and they are obviously, then these drones are invisible and very likely not half as uncommon as we imagine. There is some discussion of cloaking at the SpaceWarp Dynamics site. Considering what is known about cloaking it's assured that these would be cloaked normally.

Again, I'm not buying this Alien Technology stuff. Something else is going to have to prove that to me and this isn't it. Could also be that these antenna are receiving microwaves for power remotely, but interesting how they were photographed lurking about the power lines like there was a reason. I think it's pretty clear that these are very likely secret surveillance drones.

[Gambeir]

I'm surprised no one has commented on the Big Basin Drone images. I know many people have dismissed this incident and that it has faded in to memory.
As a result I'm posting this link where a superior analysis was done on the supposed linguistics of these drone. I think this is very convincing evidence, but still doesn't refute the images themselves or the people who reported them.

Aerial Drone Mystery Report

FYI. Supposedly this was all a marketing ploy for Dell Computers Alien Ware. Nevertheless, I would be cautious of leaping to the conclusion that this was a prank by a corporation as a marketing scheme as sold here and elsewhere. Older people will recall the stir these made at the time coming with a supposed story about alien vehicles, secret research labs, and stolen papers that made their way out in to the net under the name of project C.A.R.E.T.
The "CARET" Program - Explanation for Drone UFO Sightings in California

This has clearly turned out to be a black op cover story. Obviously prepared beforehand. The writing on the vehicles themselves would be the most logical pre-planned course to take so that the cover story could be used if any were photographed or brought down by someone. Finally the final finishigng nail in the cover story being the breaking of the lettering on the supposed photographs. Thus convincingly proving it was all a hoax done as a marketing scheme.

However, I don't see where Dell Computer ever owned up to having pulled this stunt, which even if they did wouldn't mean a whole lot.

Real Drones this advanced (over ten years ago now) would never be let out without some pre-arranged cover to explain away photographs or evidence.
Put it all together, all the information you've heard, read, and have seen, and the truth is these are real. They are outside our homes most likely, probably watching specific people or locations, and what's illusion is a story about a marketing ploy. You got a reason to be paranoid now.