An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[robur]

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[Gambeir]

I do not need fantasy to explain technology. There are no aliens. Delusions are not evidence of reality. Alien contact has no basis in reality. Mind controlled fractured multiple personalities are factual known proven truths. There are no aliens. No artifacts exist that cannot be rationally explained as technology. There are no aliens. Witches do not exist and Aliens do not exist. Mind control exists and Marxist Communists trying to enslave humanity exist. You are either a victim or an enemy. There can be no other possibility.

Post something useful or go away: There are no aliens and I will not entertain any discussion which assumes there are. Any claims of alien technological knowledge proves only that a person is either a mind control victim, a naive fool, or a military nazi corporate intel coinintel spook who is a traitor and enemy of every living being on this planet who should be ruthlessly hunted down and executed on sight.

[robur]

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[Gambeir]

Eugenics comes with another program called epigenetics.

It's interesting that the Nazi Doctors perfected mind control through trauma in the death camps where the Nazi Doctors boasted they could break a man in an hour and a half. Along with the trauma comes mind control, obviously, but that's not all. Trauma based mind control created a new potential which one might reasonable expect to be another Nazi Doctor experiment, and that was the potential to link trauma to bloodlines in families and to use it through generations to see if by inducing trauma the genes would react to the trauma and could therefore be molded. This is what abductions are all about; using generational timelines to forge a compliant slave class. This is of course a direct offshoot from standard hybridization, and so there are now those which have suffered so-called Alien Abductions by generations, or what is referred to as by blood lines. That is, if your parents, either one, was abducted then you're virtually assured of also being abducted. You think this is an Alien Program? Think again because it's not.

Ancestory wants your DNA so that no matter where you are they can locate you, your kids, or your kids kids, and the whole idea behind this is be able to keep track of those whom will form the backbone of the slave subspecies which is being forged right now; to create terror, pain, and misery, not once or twice mind you, but through generation after generation, an with the purpose of creating a slave sub-species of human beings, and who will be compliant on command as fainting goats are compliant. That's what real mind control is about and it's called epigenetics. Why don't you look up an old TV show called Queen for a Day and see how that strikes you.

This thread is about our salvation and I am violently opposed to those who knowingly or not derail the purpose because I am risking my life doing what I am doing and if you cannot understand in your blind egocentic view then do not expect me to be gracious to you. Ken Wheeler has put his life on the line knowingly or not and you are evidently too mind controlled to see what he has given or tried to give to the rest of humanity. In fact the idea that you're rejecting the straight forward logic is more telling than any other thing and virtually proves to me that you're a suffer of trauma based mind control. You seriously need to seek out a professional and get an opinion on this. Little time remains, very little time.

UFO's and Antigravity isn't about aliens. It has never been about aliens. Antigravity is not that complex. It's only been made to seem complex by the next level of mind control coming from the criminal education system. Every person that insists there are aliens helps the cause of the Nazi's running this program. You've been told over, and over, and over, and over, but still you and so many others are so thick skulled, gullible, and silly, and you won't listen to the proofs. Never mind the absolute proof of RFK assassination, or the UFO smoke ring on Dealy Plaza when JFK was murdered. Honestly you people...why anyone tries to help you when you act this way, so gullible, so narrow mind, so stubborn.

There was the movie Manchurian candidate in 1962 and then again in 2004. There was Robert Ludlums' Jason Bourne Books and then the movie series, which even more precisely described how this is accomplished and creating a CIA Assassin suffering from what? Oh yes, dissociative amnesia, which is typically a part of the programming. But hey, that's all just fiction right? You've probably never killed anyone and you'd remember if you had, right? You had sex bomb Timothy Oliphant depict what? Oh yes a kid who was abducted and lived with some kind of cult or priests and was programmed/trained to be an assassin. Christ almighty wake the hell up. Those are movies telling you and showing you the process. So my question is are you bright enough to put the puzzle together and if you're not then you deserve to become a slave, a sheep, a victim. That's why you are told. Make your choice. My problem is I'm stuck with you idiots otherwise I'd leave you all to become the subhumans you evidently desire to be. There is no other way to make this all any more clearer than that except to add that if you think the book the Golden Compass is just a fictional story about child abductions told in an interesting format then you're simply not paying enough attention to the real world around you.

What we have is a cult composed of a united collection of international intelligence agencies which is Nazi and which is global. They are all involved, all of them, every last one of them. They are the ones stealing children, murdering people, doing all these horrible things. They are the ones and you know who they are. They are the ones using advanced technology, of which one small but important part has has been mistaken as Alien UFO's, known to be among the most secret of secret state secrets, but this is soon to go un-noticed since the aware have noticed, that is they have been shown in several prominent videos that these so-called alien UFO's are now invisible, and so I imagine that we will be seeing fewer and fewer UFO's, and the fewer we see the crazier you're going to sound, so remember that if you can because I'm not sure you can remember as much as you think you can.

So along with these UFO's has come the Nazi perfected trauma based mind control for a sweeping agenda; one, to conduct a process to model a genetic slave who will be born with preconceived reactions to trauma, which does mean almost anything like clapping your hands for example: Not unlike the trauma that fainting goats suffer when you clap your hands which causes them to collapse and freeze from frightening sounds. Second, the use of trauma based methods to create unwitting assassins to further terrorize the sheep, most of whom seem willing to become even more defenseless than they already are, and thirdly to use this same system of trauma based mind control both in and outside of law enforcement to create an absolute murderous unfeeling and ruthless system of authority which of course cannot be challenged in any form. Look to the drastic change in police behavior. How or who is selecting law men? Look how they are acting and reacting. Are these the actions of rational people? Shooting a child because the kid has a pellet gun? Sorry that's the behavior of a programmed killer plain and simple. Face facts and stop living a delusional lie is my advice. Why do you think they get them outside the USA for training? Are your rights protected in say Israel? Wake up sleeping beauty, the party is about to get real hot, and you are all going to be invited whether you like it or not.

Believe what you like Robur but I advise you to seek out testing.
If what you are telling me is true than you've been abducted and probably tortured.

[robur]

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[robur]

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[spacecase0]

defiantly relevant.
thank you for the post.

[Gambeir]

OK Back to work then

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I think this relevant to the discussion. If it isn't - correct me then

Christ is there a moderator on this fricking forum because I got an MI-6 stooge out of the UK pretending to be an alien abductee wrecking mine.

Go start your own alien technology thread. Christ almighty you thread stealing scumbag. You got some nerve pal. Wish I could ban you.
No you can't just come barging in to someone else's thread and then start dictating what physics you're going to accept, get the hell off my
thread dirt bag, I'm using Ken Wheeler's work and his physics, you can just go screw yourself. I don't give a hoot in hell what you think about anything.
You're nobody and for you to come here and start telling me you're not going to accept let alone use Wheelers' ideas when that's what forms the foundation
of this thread and the work I've put in to it then you can just go to hell. Come here and treat me and my work like it's all sh--t and doesn't mean anything.
Hey Robur wonder why nobody wants you around and then you want to pretend you're a good guy huh?


You really need to get off my thread because you're really pissing me off.
The nerve of you coming to my thread and then trying to hijack it with your alien contactee lies.
As far as I'm concerned you're here to be malicious and cause harm. Just a complete load of horse manure is what you're selling. I told you before and I'm telling you once more
get off my thread. Stop trying to associate me with crackpot ideas you have and senseless drawing designed to lead people off into failure. I've really had quite a belly full of you.

[robur]

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[Gambeir]

There are a myraid of ways to create a flying machine but all of them involve air. All our flying machines involve controlling and working with air and air pressure.

Gravity control can be effected two ways, both defined already by Ken Wheeler. Refer to the previously posted video's for an introduction.

Gravity has itself also been defined accurately by Ken Wheeler. End of discussion, we know what creates gravity thanks to Ken and we know that it is a product of energetic induction. Gravity is incoherent magnetism plain and simple. It isn't a mystery. It's defined by a process that involves the induction of a dielectric energetic field which permeate's through all matter at a hyper-velocity speed.

We are only now beginning the first steps to begin using that knowledge to try to create practical machines. Of the two forms of gravitational types, one is repulsine and the other is a false mass drive. Any design which hopes to work must be one or the other or a combination.
http://www.energeticforum.com/editpo...tpost&p=320046
Any machine which hopes to work must also work off the discoveries of Ken Wheeler understanding of the magnetic field, and such that as a machine it is either repelling an electromagnetic field, such as I've already described as a pulsed wave repulsine type EM hover craft, or must create a false mass and re-orientation of that mass such as to counter the Earth's own incoherent magnetic field. I think that only a false mass drive will be interstellar capable.

This is not open to debate. Any debate about those conclusions are not welcome here and will be considered imbecilic.

There is no need to pretend we do not know how this works or to resort to lunatic ideas. Whether a person agrees with these conclusions is their own business but this thread will continue to be driven by logic and not lunacy. Confine posts to logical good sense which may further a practical means to construct one or the other, but not idiot machines which are clearly capable of doing nothing, especially when we have a firm idea about what is required. If you cannot understand this then you need to study Wheeler's work until you do. One cannot say; Oh yes, well I reject the theory of how airplanes fly any more than one can reject Wheeler's physics of the magnetic field. That is idiocy which I cannot stomach.

[Gambeir]

For those who may have read the posts yesterday before I removed them I have this to say: We have the basic fundamentals to understanding how to create anti-gravity. There is no doubt about that. I feel some are not who they pretend to be and are here for other reasons.

This topic is far too serious to allow idiocy to pollute what I'm trying to do here. This isn't just about technology, it's about our history, it is about becoming aware. It's about becoming aware that we have criminals ruling over us, and that those people whom we have entrusted our lives; in the military, in government, and in those corporations and individuals that our elect have paid our tax dollars to use in our defense have not been overseen and some elements have, and are right now, engaged in criminal activities of the worst kind.

Now it's not like we haven't had brave people whom were elected to political office try to do something. It's not like that at all, but they were probably unaware of the level of technology they were dealing with which was in the hands of whatever conspiracy they had originally envisioned.
The airplane crash conspiracy
The Airplane Crash Conspiracy

Somehow, it has gotten out of control, beyond the ability of even the Commander in Chief to address, and the JFK assassination proved that, and so we cannot expect the President can prevail over this criminal cabal, because it isn't just inside our own government, no, it's inside all the governments! It's a global snake of corrupted intelligence arms, its not just one, it's all of them evidently. That really is what the Epstein fiasco is showing us. These intelligence arms have their own little club and we are their victims. That's what I'm reading.

It's not just some of our own that have used our good faith and our money to commit crimes of the worst kinds and which include; kidnapping, rape, torture, and murder. Not including what is also obviously High Treason (in any country) and Crimes Against Humanity, it's that they all seem to have gotten onboard the same UFO.

So evidently the Nazi Pollution spread when it was captured by the four victors because all the idiots took in as many Nazi's as the could get their hands on. The Soviets were equally as stupid as we were, as well as the British and French, and somewhere's along the line the Jew's decided this looked like a great party too I guess... hence Epstein and the kiddie porn island.

I realize this is little over-simplified but it is the only logical conclusion any rational person should arrive at given a majority of the historical evidence and looking at the current state of affairs.

UFO's are not alien vehicles. 80 years of development with something like half the GDP of the planet can and has produced machines and technology which only appear to be coming from an alien civilization. You need to be on guard and hip to this idea because there is some slick marketing going on to first co-opt the antigravity research so as to side track it into another quasi-quantum Einsteinian labyrinth, to replace the now failing Einsteinian Labyrinth that has held us back for the last century. Second, there is a much more evil plot that's being invented, can't be verified, and includes stories about UFO's and Alien cooperation, or over-site in war, in Afganistan, in space, on the moon. Again more lies selling the idea that aliens exist.

If aliens existed then explain the evolution of their machines, because that makes no sense at all, and in cases from the 1950's through the 1970's to conclude with today's knowledge that what those people were seeing was alien is just absurd, just simply absurd.
Take for example the case of Bill Herrmann from Charleston, South Carolina, USA
https://www.bagofbones.org/blog/24-u...n-a-true-story

Every time the man is abducted he is visited by an increasingly sophisticated flying machine. The first aren't even as complex as the ARV and look like the Rex Heflin training saucer. On the whole, I cannot safely conclude that anyone has ever been abducted by aliens. That story appears to be absolute baloney. They have been abducted alright, just not by aliens, but by people. Evil traitorous people to be precise.

Ufologists have never considered abductee's as victims of a covert mind control program. One used to explain away antigravity technology, they have considered mind control as something done by alien's from another world, which is absurd given what we now know and the visible history and records.

You can read up on the techniques of mind control on your own, but there is a correlation to abductee's and groups such as self proclaimed born again Christians: Which is an ideal group where individuals might be maneuvered in to a vulnerable situation where they could be put in a hypnotic state, and which just happens to be what Bill Herrmann self professed himself to be; a born again Christian. This is important because the experiments which followed in brainwashing on a massive scale involved the use of quasi-religious leaders. What we have in that history is the history of weaponized religion for covert operations, and just one of which involves abductee's because there are many other uses besides creating mind controlled tools for alien abduction stories.

The point being that it doesn't take too much imagination to see where a person believing they were going to some kind of religious service or prayer group could be lured into becoming hypnotized, and as shockingly demonstrated some people can instantly put in a trance without any delay or knowledge whatsoever.

There is a long sordid history to mind control and this history is tied to the Nazi Doctors just like Anti-gravity is tied to the Nazi Scientists. The two go hand in hand.
https://cassiopaea.org/2012/01/30/th...an-candidates/
https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Joh...town.html#ALJR
VISUP: Latin American High Weirdness: The Cults Part I

There are curious affairs where highly respected lawmen seem to have had questionable explanations for the deaths. I see this instance as a possible link to corrupted law enforcement and which may have to do with either sex or drugs or both, but there is something in this obscure lost story that just itches like the dickens and so I'm posting it. Maybe it's just that is seems to be an iconic story that represents so many others.
https://taylorpress.net/news/article...48e03c347.html
There have been a lot of questions about the space program and especially those who suspect the lunar landings were falsified and that the Mars rover is also on an expedition some where's here on earth, Greenland, Iceland, or possible the Gobi Desert in China.
http://www.dfendyourself.com/link_di...onspiracy.html

[robur]

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[Ufopolitics]

ARV's are a FICTION...

I do not need fantasy to explain technology. There are no aliens. Delusions are not evidence of reality. Alien contact has no basis in reality. Mind controlled fractured multiple personalities are factual known proven truths. There are no aliens. No artifacts exist that cannot be rationally explained as technology. There are no aliens. Witches do not exist and Aliens do not exist. Mind control exists and Marxist Communists trying to enslave humanity exist. You are either a victim or an enemy. There can be no other possibility.

Post something useful or go away: There are no aliens and I will not entertain any discussion which assumes there are. Any claims of alien technological knowledge proves only that a person is either a mind control victim, a naive fool, or a military nazi corporate intel coinintel spook who is a traitor and enemy of every living being on this planet who should be ruthlessly hunted down and executed on sight.

Hello my dear friend Gambeir,

Well, as everyone can tell, I no longer enter into Energetic Forum that often...I only do it when I want to clarify something, have a nice argument over an interesting subject... or to enter important data that would help you all accomplish your dreams...

I believe we already had a similar discussion before...

I am now giving you (and everyone reading) a very interesting Article I found, and completely read...

Please read it till the end (except for recent sightings and pic's at end) which is not that important.

FILER'S FILES 33-2019: UFO CAN NOT BE REVERSED ENGINEERED

Only after you fully read it, then, you will be able to tell me your opinion...

Kind regards


Ufopolitics

PD: And...if by any chance my post here annoys or interrupts in some form to your direction of thinking...please let me know...I will delete it right away.