A discussion with Allen

[RAMSET]

Forum moderator's at Stefan's are a relatively new thing
mostly to keep flame wars down .

when Stefan personally Moderates a man who poses a liability to his forum
he should be in charge of that personal Liability

having recently installed moderators in certain areas ,it turns out "they
can be put in a ruff position by moderated individuals .
I just mentioned to Mags
This is Stefan's forum he did the moderating
and ultimately he will be the one sued for laws being broken on his forum.

Laws are real and Lawsuit threats are not to be taken as a joke [if its You getting the lawsuit]

sorry if this is News to you Allen
but yes TOS agreements are no Joke
they are to help prevent Lawsuits against Admin

also it is not true that I have spoken to Stefan EVER about bans
NEVER...

I only ask for moderation at Stefan's when his Bank acc't is in Danger of lawsuits
from persons aggressively violating TOS

I can only think of three conversations with Stefan regarding moderation

I never had to mention you as someone else had already done this [and it was not Carroll]

administrators typically Loathe these types of disruptions in their lives
and persons who keep Violating their rules or making a mess of threads
are usually on the front line for moderation.

most people have much more important thins to do with their lives than babysit someone who has poor forum etiquette and can pose a lawsuit threat.

I have regularly posted this forums Link at other forums perhaps hundreds of times at various threads on topics discussed here and elsewhere .

threads which you are actively disrupting here so I have stopped posting links back to here from other sites

some of those threads can get thousands of views a day

until Aaron clarifies your Demeanor as forum acceptable
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you did post this today

Allen
quote
@ramset,
Don't let me catch you admonishing commenters about their demeanor over here ever again.

end Quote

For clarity
it is only Allen who has been engaged here [most recently MJN asked why you were making a mess of his topic here
and Evostar has been pleading for weeks
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[Allen Burgess]

Law suit.

Forum moderator's at Stefan's are a relatively new thing
mostly to keep flame wars down .

when Stefan personally Moderates a man who poses a liability to his forum
he should be in charge of that personal Liability

having recently installed moderators in certain areas ,it turns out "they
can be put in a ruff position by moderated individuals .
I just mentioned to Mags
This is Stefan's forum he did the moderating
and ultimately he will be the one sued for laws being broken on his forum.

Laws are real and Lawsuit threats are not to be taken as a joke [if its You getting the lawsuit]

sorry if this is News to you Allen
but yes TOS agreements are no Joke
they are to help prevent Lawsuits against Admin

@ramset,

It's illegal to sue for slander as a fictitious person. There is no real person named Citfta.

[citfta]

Citfta announced that he petitioned Stephan for a "Permanent Ban" against me. Both of you are overly harsh persistent crank complainers!

And I will do it again in a heartbeat if you are allowed to come back over there and start disrupting threads again with your foolish ideas and combative attitude. You are a perfect example of all the things that have gone wrong with our modern society.

[Allen Burgess]

Builds.

And I will do it again in a heartbeat if you are allowed to come back over there and start disrupting threads again with your foolish ideas and combative attitude. You are a perfect example of all the things that have gone wrong with our modern society.

@Citfta,

Show us a build! I have a Youtube channel with over 40 constructions. Where are yours? Show us something. All you "Cranks" can do is act like sheriffs.

[Allen Burgess]

Pea whistle.

Here, let me help:

[RAMSET]

@ramset,

It's illegal to sue for slander as a fictitious person. There is no real person named Citfta.
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Allen
I am not speaking of Carrolll ,as a matter of fact you are correct

we are not speaking at all.... so Slander does not apply

Libel does

and it is careless of you to tap dance around the law with someone else's liability [Aaron's]

and for clarity I am speaking about issues at Stefan's forum [where you are now moderated]




I will leave this discussion until Aaron has responded

.

[Allen Burgess]

@ramset,

It's illegal to sue for slander as a fictitious person. There is no real person named Citfta.
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Allen
I am not speaking of Carrolll ,as a matter of fact you are correct

we are not speaking at all.... so Slander does not apply

Libel does

and it is careless of you to tap dance around the law with someone else's liability [Aaron's]

and for clarity I am speaking about issues at Stefan's forum [where you are now moderated]




I will leave this discussion until Aaron has responded

.

@ramset,

You teamed up with Citfta on a "Pea Whistle"!

[citfta]

@Citfta,

Show us a build! I have a Youtube channel with over 40 constructions. Where are yours? Show us something. All you "Cranks" can do is act like sheriffs.

If you knew anything about me except your constant slander you would know that I have several builds on this forum with pictures to show them. I also have several builds on Youtube but they are marked private so that idiots like you can't comment on something they don't understand.

Besides building I also have spent hundreds of hours on this forum helping others with their projects. Something you couldn't possibly do with your mixed up ideas about electronics. On this and other forums I have helped probably 50 people get their Simple School Girls circuits working after they had problems getting them going. While all you do is try to bring everyone else down to your below kindergarten level I try to help them rise to a higher level.

I have work to do so no more time to play your silly games today. Go somewhere and get a life.

[Allen Burgess]

All complaints zero builds!

@Citfta,

So both you and ramset are all complaints and zero public Youtube builds? That's how little we enjoyed you!

[Allen Burgess]

Messages.

@Citfta and ramset,

I just sent personal messages to both Stephan Hartiberlin and Magluvin at the Overunity site exposing you two as "No Show Grinches"!'

You should both be deeply ashamed of yourselves, not inflated with over bloated pride and arogant impudence!

[RAMSET]

If this is the role model here ?

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Allen
quote
@ramset,
Don't let me catch you admonishing commenters about their demeanor over here ever again.
end Quote
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@Allen

these two quick examples of your Demeanor here from recent days ,you are saying this is OK with Aaron ?
or forum owners anywhere?

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ap-method.html




Evostar reply to Allen
QUOTE
Allen Burgess,
With all respect I kindly but urgently ask you to start your own thread.

I do NOT like your words:
"you're a shameless scoundrel,
you deceptive trouble maker"
END QUOTE

@ Allen
I actually think at this point you should get some clarification from Aaron
This is what he likes here?

please engage him for clarity

I need to know if this demeanor is forum friendly?

if so ...I will most certainly "toe the line"[I'll follow it right out the Door....

Chet

PS
and for additional Clarity
I have not spoken one word to Stefan about you're forum etiquette here ,why should he care ??

he moderated you for behavior at his forum at the request of others ...

[Allen Burgess]

Libel of pseudonym

Same holds true for libel:

"Still, there's a significant difference between injuring one's real world identity, and injuring one's not-for-profit internet identity. And offhand, I can't actually find any cases stating outright that it's possible to sue even for defamation of a pen name".

[BroMikey]

Hey Allen

Shoot us your youtube I would be interested, as for so many others
here they do not have much visible information that I am aware of.
I don't know why everyone is so unwilling to share out in the open
and are in a hidden portion of these forums.

As for the OU site? No one ever came to my recuse when ugly comments
such as the "F" word were made consistently day after year. And why all
of the hatred? My goodness, they must smell money?

Anyway I see I am right again, these individual have nothing to show
for out in the open and is the reason I am here, I am here to see results
and have no intention of following on coat tails crying for admin.

Admin help me admin, sue them admin, get them admin, he didn't do me
right admin, where is my justice admin? Recuse me admin by stopping
someone's free speech? Don't let Allen talk admin, Allen is not playing
nice admin. Help admin my character is at stake admin.

The imbalance is just to staggering, especially when these individuals
have suggested all they want it peace. Of course it has become clear
that peace and contentment is not the goal which makes them less
than honest.

I don't know what you could have done to deserve such a group of
hangers on. It seems that some can only get noticed if they call out to
the admin to pet and side with them as they must be or have given lots
of money over time.

But they don't understand that the money means nothing to the admin.

In essence some believe that the new laws will validate one position
over the other when this is not what libel laws are all about. Time for
people to contact their lawyers to see if they are in fact eligible to get
in on the free money ride.

What a rude awakening it is going to be.

To open the law books are not as easy as they suggest and so far the
only laws that have been broken here are simple name calling of which
both parties have equally engaged in.

More like a lovers spat.

One version of name calling that seems more cleaned up and yet just
as insulting is not better than calling someone an outright pig.

So there you all have it, what is good for the goose is good for the
gander. Each on you are on your own with no legal leg to stand on so
present your cases.

Crying wolf is an old trick that will get you nowhere fast. The libel laws
take in to consideration many things such as continued harassment that
are insults with no factual basis.

Beyond that it looks like to me what we are seeing here is an emotional
outburst of venting that good for the soul. Get it off your chest, that is
why the Allen thread has been created. This is well within Allen's
rights to object and correct errors.

And don't ever compare OU to the Energeticforum, that is like comparing
a Kings Palace to the dog house of ethics. At OU doing it doggy style
is and has been a way of life with no censorship at all, disgusting site.


I love the Energeticforum because of it's moderation and impartiality.

Being impartial is the job of a true moderate.

[citfta]

AS usual you have your facts all mixed up BM. You wrote this:

Beyond that it looks like to me what we are seeing here is an emotional
outburst of venting that good for the soul. Get it off your chest, that is
why Allen has created this special thread. This is well within Allen's
rights to do so.

If you look at the beginning of the thread it was Chet (Ramset) that started the thread not Allen.

[RAMSET]

If this is the role model here ?

Mikey and Allen

here your host makes his living from traffic to this website ,
I HAVE BEEN STEERING TRAFFIC HERE BY POSTING LINKS BACK FROM OTHER FORUMS FOR THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE.
PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF TIMES [my interest is for the experimenters not the business]

Most recently
ONE THREAD AT OU.COM HAS ALMOST 80k HITS IN A LITTLE OVER A MONTH
and I was linking back regularly until Allen put a stop to this.
Evostar begged Allen to stop ,he didn't and you Mikey endorsed his behavior

then I started a Topic with the permission of MJN
same nonsense
so I opened this topic.

if you had a man at your business hurting your traffic flow by acting like this??
and on top of that placing your business in jeopardy of lawsuits??

what would you do??

and today this from Allen [in reference to his and only his behavior]


Allen
quote
@ramset,

Don't let me catch you admonishing commenters about their demeanor over here ever again.
end Quote
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To which I replied
@Allen

these two quick examples of your Demeanor here from recent days ,you are saying this is OK with Aaron ?
or forum owners anywhere?

M.J. Nunnerley Open source STEAP method

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ap-method.html

and the most recent thread I stopped linking back to
Evostars Bifilar thread

Evostar reply to Allen
QUOTE
Allen Burgess,
With all respect I kindly but urgently ask you to start your own thread.

I do NOT like your words:
"you're a shameless scoundrel,
you deceptive trouble maker"
END QUOTE


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