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You forgot one thing, crucial to understanding the problem. The current energy agenda was and still is supported by financiers and politicians. It took 180 years to develop today energy infrastructure ,millions of experiments thousands of devices. Most of free energy researchers did not have any chance to cope with that ,well..because theirs methods of collection energy from ambient do not generate enough profit.
It's simply like that - somebody discovered the extract from common weed would cure cancer more effectively then all drugs even made - would you think it will be on the market soon ? Non-patentable , cheap cancer solution ?
Free energy is here , enough to fulfill all man needs evenly - not centrally distributed but dispersed all over the world in small quantities. Earth is a giant motor powered by cosmic current and we can tap part of this current easily.
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The generation giving credit to Nikola Tesla are small in number.
I recall Gernsback Popular electronics, BBS on alternative energy research, Nuts n Volts,
Low Band Ham radio late night and ARRL clubs have by tradition
carried on the discussions on Tesla Coils and spark gap projects.
The subject of free energy became taboo on Nuts n Volts
any one mentioning alt energy was flogged. I see several
who are retired from teaching electronics. They suffer from dementia
and enjoy trolling and paying back bad electronics students.
With the trend of alt-energy, How we became dependent on Nuclear,
fossil fuel and electrical industry was examined with historical scrutiny giving rise to a narrative that Tesla was denied permission to distribute free Tesla-care.
Others needed to be so well versed in Tesla out of necessity in order to convey accurately and without cyber harassment and distortion the facts.
The Tesla expert faced much skeptical confrontation and this continuous harassment hardens a person to appear confined and dogmatic.
It is the balanced view between accuracy and practicality that would help the most.
Michael Faraday was a gem in how he conceptualized electrical properties. He accurately described his discoveries with academic appeal his Math and Grammar
had both appeal and content. That fundamental electrical era has unfortunately become dysfunctional and has mostly been replaced by corporate controlled research.
The online DIY hobbyist for renewable energy development has
seen several strong peaks and this forum has played a role of informing
academics of the controversies on these subjects.Last edited by mikrovolt; 06-09-2017, 06:30 AM.
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Originally posted by SlickDick View Post
If all your arguments can not win? Resort to be spelling nazi. Chapeau!
It is called the "Method of Recourse" on Legal Ways...
Originally posted by SlickDick View Post@Mikrovolt:
Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
however it appears that conservation and alternatives and central power is here to stay.
It is absolutely NOT TRUE, that ANY of this devices you have mentioned above, requires ANOTHER POWER to start up...Bad Engineering, Bad Designs...that is all.
ANY Machine like this could RUN PERPETUALLY, as if you have, say Two or Three in your residence, they could run alternatively having one at rest every certain timing, and use the ones ON to power the one off and so on. All this switching could be done automatically designed to run by itself.
And finally...what "external" power do we need to start up a Portable Generator turned by a farting machine in the middle of the dessert?...ZERO, just by pulling a Rope and handle will do the Prime Moving Spin...then it would run on its own till fuel is exhausted...Now, what if we have a simple shaft with magnetic reminiscence to start the primary "spark" required to fully run?..and as previous example, all we need to do is just apply that prime spin by hand, then output would feed itself and starting shaft could then stop or serve as a mere cooling fan...?
Besides, remember about Ultra-Caps...which retain very dense currents for years without any leaks...that would work, simply by initiating that small, weak, prime spark to start the process.
Originally posted by SlickDick View PostThe poor, third world people). All who post **** like we need to power the world because of the poor, like some members here posting. Their posts is pure propaganda of their own needs or ego. Be it because lack of money or otherwise it does not matter. it is because their own agenda, not the agenda of the well being of the whole world population. Sadly, there are many who post on this website and use the name of Tesla, but have no clue, and abuse Tesla's name in order tor promote their BS.
Originally posted by SlickDick View PostNow if anybody interested would study what my dear hubby Doc has posted.
Originally posted by SlickDick View PostThe means of distributing energy proposed by Tesla, the whole infrastructure would be modular, instead of being all "connected" by means of physical "wire". They could be "connected", because every receiver could also be a transmitter. We would not have to be "on" the "grid" tied together This means that in fact a simple "stand alone device" could deliver electricity. This can not and will never be the case of the devices mentioned here which will need a power source to start by means of being tied to a grid or charged batteries. But again note, none of these energy out of thin "air" (free? Ufo?) devices have been proven to be real.
It is completely ridiculous to maintain a FULL -CENTRAL POWER-ESTABLISHMENT of OIL CORPORATIONS WORLDWIDE, just to give us all that required, and very small, starting spark...to start ALL GLOBAL FREE ENERGY DEVICES...What a narrow, closed minded way of thinking Dick!!
Originally posted by SlickDick View PostNeedles to say Tesla's TMT device would not be "free", like any other device, for example a simple device like a manual powered water pump. The "firestarter""pumps" would need more then just a little Lipo. There we have the grid again. Some infrastructure is still needed.
Imagine a portable, self running Air Conditioning?...that could even have a set of secondary outlets (like a portable generator does) to feed any other "obsolete-by now-plug in appliances"?
And so on...to even a Cell Phone capable to supply power to much bigger equipment...in case something goes wrong...
Sounds like fiction Uh?
Originally posted by SlickDick View PostOf course proof of concept proposed by Tesla is unproven, granted. Tesla was never been able to realize this to full extent. However the knowledge is out there. Utilizing the earth itself to distribute energy. It does take a proper scientific approach and a rather large budget. Again not something for "free" or build scalvaging the junk yard. However it would change and simplify the whole energy question radically. If it proves out, it will be a disruptor in the current status quo. Like i wrote, there are some Big gems to be found on this website. Study the work of Ernst, who in fact is building this very principle on a realistic scale. http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ions-pass.html
Or take a look at my beloved one's plans, to study on a smaller budget http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...available.html. No fantasy **** here, but do not expect to power the world.
And by the way...one who thought like you have mentioned before...was him, Tesla...imagining a World of Free Energy for absolutely EVERYONE ON THIS PLANET...where "no meters" were going to be "installed"...
Originally posted by SlickDick View Post@Ufo
http://www.energeticforum.com/289466-post20.html Almost a year has passed. You arrogance still thrives... chasing one fairytale after another, yet nothing to show for a except your tremendous ego.
For Two Hundred Years of Oil Slavery, Farting Machines development and the works...a year sounds like a minute or a second of that time. (1 year divided by 200= 0.005)
UfopoliticsLast edited by Ufopolitics; 06-09-2017, 01:32 PM.Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci
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Originally posted by mikrovoltasynchronous wound armatures, a different animal yes you are right good job.
Find the 8730 try Searching " LTC3780 High Efficiency, Synchronous Buck Boost "
or " ebay LTC3780 12 DC to DC, lifting Synchronous Buck Boost "
board topology the inductor should be moved away from the 4 transistors.
Thanks Mikrovolt,
Do you mind if we move this conversation over to my Thread: Moving Magnetic Fields?...as I would like to go in more details about this circuitry...and do not want to disrupt this Thread....please, it is a very interesting conversation.
I will start transferring my post above, then deleting it here.
Regards
UfopoliticsLast edited by Ufopolitics; 06-09-2017, 04:38 PM.Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci
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Originally posted by SlickDick View PostThe means of distributing energy proposed by Tesla, the whole infrastructure would be modular, instead of being all "connected" by means of physical "wire". They could be "connected", because every receiver could also be a transmitter. We would not have to be "on" the "grid" tied together This means that in fact a simple "stand alone device" could deliver electricity. This can not and will never be the case of the devices mentioned here which will need a power source to start by means of being tied to a grid or charged batteries.http://www.teslascientific.com/
"Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell
"Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall
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The Real Deal...No BS.
Originally posted by dR-Green View PostIn my mind the most sensible way to go about it is to keep some of the existing infrastructure. For example, rather than needing thousands of receivers that are all relatively closely spaced, the 'wireless' portion should only cover the big distances that exist between the power station and the town. Once the power has been delivered to the town, then an existing substation can distribute the power locally through the cables that already connect every house in the town or local area. Hence the cost of thousands of miles of cables is bypassed, and the problem of how to get the energy from the solar panel array in the remote desert or from the hydro power station in the mountains to the people is solved.Originally posted by dR-Green View Postthen an existing substation can distribute the power locally through the cables that already connect every house in the town or local area.
As a Multinational, like the same Power Companies that deliver Us "Light and Power"...will be making huge investments to then get all people in a never ending "debt"...which gives them the room (Justify) to raise the Bill$ every month...
There is a HUGE difference than having a Device, which you could take to your bedroom if you like, because it DON'T have an Exhaust Muffler and Pipe, which besides the very LOUD NOISE...Will definitively KILL YOU in just one hour of operation, not because of CO2...But the LETHAL HYDROCARBONS BLACK, DENSE BURNT GASES they FART...and which is NOT CONNECTED to absolutely no "POWER SUB-STATION NETWORK", who will need to "collect" absolutely nada, nothing.
THAT IS THE REAL AND COMPLETE ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, ALL OTHERS ARE BS
Not what you are proposing which is still not even proven to work at those distances and wireless...So it is a "Fairy tale"
UfopoliticsLast edited by Ufopolitics; 06-09-2017, 05:17 PM.Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci
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Originally posted by Ufopolitics View PostSame BS, different "color"...that "substation" will make sure they will install "Meter$" in every house walls where cables reach...
Who owns it depends on who pays for it, and who pays for it are free to do what they want with it. If they choose to let you use it for a rental fee, then you are free to reject it and build your own instead.
Alternatively, god forbid, the population who would use it could invest in a system themselves so they all collectively own it and then they don't have to send themselves bills, except what's required in order to pay the engineers to maintain it. Crazy ideas
Just to be clear, you do realise that you are saying that what Tesla himself considered to be his greatest accomplishment, is an useless fairy tale and that your invention is better, despite having shown nothing to prove it, with the only consolidation being "you've waited 200 years so what difference is a bit more going to make?"Last edited by dR-Green; 06-09-2017, 05:38 PM.http://www.teslascientific.com/
"Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell
"Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall
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Originally posted by dR-Green View PostYes... Materials cost money. So do workers that build it. So does the food that the workers must consume to gain energy in order to be able to lift and install a cable.
Originally posted by dR-Green View PostWho owns it depends on who pays for it,
Don't you know that Power Plants are considered "Strategic Facilities" which MUST deal BEFORE reaching a REAL LICENSE GRANTING with each Country National Security?
So, then the "Existing Power Plant" you really believe...will "easily" accept that Doc Green starts getting a loan from a "near" Bank (which is also entangled to Government Federal Protection)...to build such efficient Power Plant...which eventually leave out of business the Oil Burning Power Plant Institution?...which is -at the same token- directly related to Main Oil Corporations Pyramid, through their Stock Main Capitals??!!
Let me give you my response:...
Originally posted by dR-Green View PostAlternatively, god forbid, the population who would use it could invest in a system themselves so they all collectively own it and then they don't have to send themselves bills, except what's required in order to pay the engineers to maintain it.
Originally posted by dR-Green View PostCrazy ideas
UfopoliticsLast edited by Ufopolitics; 06-09-2017, 05:46 PM.Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci
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Originally posted by Ufopolitics View PostSo, then the "Existing Power Plant" you really believe...will "easily" accept that Doc Green starts getting a loan from a "near" Bank (which is also entangled to Government Federal Protection)...to build such efficient Power Plant...which eventually leave out of business the Oil Burning Power Plant Institution?...which is -at the same token- directly related to Main Oil Corporations Pyramid, through their Stock Main Capitals??!!
Hydro, wind and solar plants already exist. What has oil got to do with it?
Originally posted by dR-Green View PostJust to be clear, you do realise that you are saying that what Tesla himself considered to be his greatest accomplishment, is an useless fairy tale and that your invention is better, despite having shown nothing to prove it, with the only consolidation being "you've waited 200 years so what difference is a bit more going to make?"http://www.teslascientific.com/
"Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell
"Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall
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Re edited answer.
Originally posted by dR-Green View PostJust to be clear, you do realise that you are saying that what Tesla himself considered to be his greatest accomplishment, is an useless fairy tale and that your invention is better, despite having shown nothing to prove it, with the only consolidation being "you've waited 200 years so what difference is a bit more going to make?"
Originally posted by dR-Green View Postyour invention is better
And so, I, Obviously DO NOT think so.
The "list" of these "Devices" and their Inventors is SO massive and have SO MANY different Dates in Time...and has been floating around here SO many times...To the point the names we all know by now...so there is no need to re-post them.
And YES, definitively...JUST ONE of these BUNCH of Devices that could be reproduced here, and replicated here, will DEFINITIVELY make Tesla's Wireless Transmission Apparatuses all very OBSOLETE and Unnecessary.
Who's gonna need to make huge towers and receivers all over the Planet...when I can put a small compact device anywhere I like which render the requested power, including Transporting Vehicles in Air, Sea and Land?
Definitively an absurd
UfopoliticsLast edited by Ufopolitics; 06-09-2017, 06:08 PM.Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci
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Originally posted by Ufopolitics View PostAnd YES, definitively...JUST ONE of these Devices that could be reproduced here and replicated here, will DEFINITIVELY make Tesla's Wireless Transmission Apparatuses all very OBSOLETE and Unnecessary.
Who's gonna need to make huge towers and receivers all over the Planet...when I can put a small compact device anywhere I like which render the requested power, including Transporting Vehicles in Air, Sea and Land?http://www.teslascientific.com/
"Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell
"Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall
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Originally posted by dR-Green View PostIt would be rendered rather obsolete if such a device was shown to work, but I'm speaking in terms of what actually exists now. You don't have a small device that can do it, and that's the point.
It is NOT about "reaching OU"...and that's it...basically OU "admiration and exposure" gets you out of concentration to keep developing further and further such device OPERATION...adding all controversy will bring along.
Look at all the threads here trying to "develop" ANYONE of such devices...what has happened to them?
Every once in a "Blue Moon" some guy steps in and starts "reviving it"...for how long now?...until nothing comes out...then Thread dies again.
That has been the "same ol' "Cycling" behavior" here for ALL those excellent Threads...
WHY?...
Because we have not been able to reach, ESTABLISH, PLUS DEMONSTRATE THE COMMON PATTERN about HOW ALL THESE DEVICES DO WHAT THEY DO...simple.
And the great thing is...that fortunately, MOST OF THIS DEVICES ARE BASED, AND OPERATE WITHIN THE SAME EXACT PRINCIPLE/PATTERN.
Which means...that once... JUST EVEN ONE DEVICE... is EXPOSED AND EXPLAINED...it will take place a DOMINO EFFECT!!!...Where everyone will start "understanding" How everyone OF THEM ALL worked out for real...
And so...Understand that anything that You UNDERSTAND FULLY ITS "MODUM OPERANDI"...You can make it happen for real...You could reproduce it, plus Develop it further and further...according to stage of development we have now.
So get ready for THAT MOMENT IN TIME...
And I base all above opinions ON MY OWN SELF EXPERIMENTING & DEVELOPMENT WHICH HAPPENS TO BE VERY VAST!!
And the prove is all out there...NO BLUFF, NO BS!!
Sincerely
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WHY? Easy answer
Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post...
Look at all the threads here trying to "develop" ANYONE of such devices...what has happened to them?
Every once in a "Blue Moon" some guy steps in and starts "reviving it"...for how long now?...until nothing comes out...then Thread dies again.
That has been the "same ol' "Cycling" behavior" here for ALL those excellent Threads...
WHY?...
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Because all are based on a lie, hoax, misunderstanding, or falsehood.
On your other thread today you claimed OU; 21W out with 12W in. Let's see proof.
I hope you did it. But overwhelming odds are against that happening.
I've got nothing against experimentation with energy. I'm all for it. In fact I attempt to help. And that is difficult here when so many do not want to see fact and truth.
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bi
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Originally posted by bistander View PostWhy?
Because all are based on a lie, hoax, misunderstanding, or falsehood.
there's a lots of parameters that work together to produce a successful over energy device, in this position it's a technical problem and it can be solved easily if a sincere collective work exist,
there's another psychical problem for example :
Originally posted by ricards View Postpeople who have common goals fight amongst themselves.. sad reality..
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