Continued Tests of the 3 Battery System

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10/31/17 (2nd day) this is just a battery check, no switch needed.

Link to video: https://youtu.be/tw_RY1hw4XQ

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10/31/17 (2nd day) 7th bat switch

Link to video: https://youtu.be/c9IbKLCE3RU

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10/31/17 (2nd day) 6th bat switch

Link to video: https://youtu.be/cJFam-RKb78

No more pictures between bat switches as they are now at every hour.

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10/31/17 (2nd day) 5th bat switch

Link to video: https://youtu.be/IQSxVEUL-h8

Only one picture before next bat rotation video

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10/31/17 (2nd day) 4th bat switch

Link to video: https://youtu.be/t8hzF1tPUBI

Only one picture before next bat rotation video

[gotoluc]

Luc,
From my experience, impedance is, among other things, a reflection of the batteries ability to absorb the charge. The smaller the battery, the lower its ability to accept a charge with less resistance. When .5 amps or 1.5 volts makes a difference between success and failure, this DOES matter.

Yes, but it's not just based on a batteries ability to receive a charge, it also comes into play when it delivers power and why lead acid batteries in general have a C/20 rating to keep them form wasting power withing there own internal resistance.
So if you understand this logic it should be clear that even though my batteries are small and so is the load by keeping them at C/20 or higher in my case the impedance should not have much effect on the results.

The test result so far is looking a little promising, because once the bat 1 & 2 watt meter goes above 120 watt/hr then that will start to indicate we have surpassed the batteries capacity.

For instance, I have no idea WHY the voltage coming out of a pulse motor is higher than what is going in when run between the batteries. My explanation is only what I believe explains Why.

Yes, it's always interesting to observe a coils Inductive Discharge. I've studied it and built device to try to use this to achieve a gain for over 8 years.
This effect is used very much in switch mode power supplies and DC to DC converters.
A coil can absorb voltage quite instantly compared to current which needs time to build up and what creates the magnetic field. However when you cut off the power to the coil the voltage is also the first thing to shoot out a little like releasing the pressure of a garden hose after you shut off the faucet. The longer the hose the more will shoot out.

Anyways, we should see the results by tomorrow. Trust that I'm doing my very best and hope it can succeed.

Regards

Luc

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10/31/17 (2nd day) 3rd bat switch

Link to video: https://youtu.be/SW0xCrDVs2M

Only one picture before next bat rotation video

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10/31/17 (2nd day) 2nd bat switch

Link to video: https://youtu.be/i95Tlb-3aRA


One pic before next switch

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Luc,
I never in the 10 years I have been working on this, reported seeing positive events with batteries THAT SMALL. The batteries I used had 20 TIMES the amp hours of your batteries. YES, we did have positive results with off the shelf motors but if you will go back and read my posts, I also said sometimes it worked and sometimes it DIDN’T. We were on a roller coaster ride for a long time.

What I have ASKED people to test is a system that I absolutely KNOW works. Then I have everything to lose if it doesn’t. What YOU are testing will NOT work, so why bother? If you want to test with a stock motor and have it work sometimes and sometimes not, depending on which way the wind blows or whether you fart during testing, be my guest, but you should STILL use larger batteries or you are going to see NOTHING no matter HOW many times you run the test.

I know you recommended large batteries but this is all I have and I'm in no position to buy large batteries unless someone wants to send me the $400 to buy some which I strongly doubt.
So this is the best it's going to get unless the results prove otherwise.

Please confirm the C/20 rate of a 5 Amp/hr battery.

Regards

Luc

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Test continues 10/31/17 (2nd day) 1st bat switch

Link to video: https://youtu.be/WbqTfhccnbQ

Only one picture before next bat rotation video

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Thanks for the details Dave

At this time those batteries is all I have. So let's hope I can get some results to prove your claim.

If there's a measurable gain then the next step would be to test to see if a pulse motor would further improve the results.

Lets keep our fingers crossed.

Regards

Luc

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Yesterday October 30th at 3pm I started a motor run time test using the 3 battery system. The test ran from 3pm till the next day 8:56am (Oct 31st post #11 below)

The main goal of this test is to evaluate the claims that a PM DC motors run time is increased by possibly as much as 3 times compared to if it was connected in the standard way to a single battery.

The test starts with 2 new fully charged 5 Amp/hr 12 volt batteries.
They have been repeatedly load tested (6 times) to find their capacity. All tests have averaged around 60 Watt-hr of capacity in each.

The 3rd battery is also a 5 Amp/hr but a used one which has been load tested 2 times and averaged 56 watt-hr of capacity and has been left discharged so it can be used as the charge battery (bat 3) to beginning the test.
Once bat 3 reaches a charge voltage above bat 1 and 2 then it will replace bat 1 which will go in the charge position and once it's charged above bat 2 it will replace it and bat 2 will go in the charge position.
The rotation process will continue until the motor stops turning or all 3 batteries reach around 10 volts each which ever comes first.
At that point we will calculate the motors total run hours.
Then the next test will be to recharge bat 1 & 2 and connect them together (parallel) and test how many motor run hours we get using a standard motor battery configuration.
The hope is the 3 battery system will achieve a longer run time.
Both test should be a fair comparison as they start with the same and known Watt-hr capacity.

3 Battery System Test started @ 3pm 10/30/17 (1st day)

link to video: https://youtu.be/hVmwDS1r1PY
Please note, there's a few places I say Amp-hr but all is Watt-hr.[/COLOR][/B]

Pictures after 3pm about every hour till midnight and left to run overnight.

[citfta]

Chet asked me to post this information here about the automatic battery swapping circuit I built and tested last year. The information is in the basic free energy device thread. Here is a link to the page that has that information on it. You will need to substitute relays appropriately sized for your batteries and loads you will be using. Look at posts number 1340 and 1343.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post292447

My time is very limited at the present but I will try to answer questions when I can.

Carroll

[RAMSET]

a quick note

Spoke with Carroll
there will be a build [properly sized] to the specific load being run
it will be an automated system and it will pump water [as per Carroll's design].

and for clarity
this has always been the goal here ,an accurate replication of exactly[or as close as possible] what Dave and others have seen here.

respectfully
Chet K
PS
this build will be sent to Luc's lab and elsewhere when done.

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Battery Information Table of Contents, Basic to Advanced

unbelievably deep subject .


I honestly expect to See what Dave ,Matt and Carroll have seen here.
and I do know that Luc is also hopeful .

the Benitez patent will be looked at too.

Chet