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  • #16
    Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
    Hi rakarskiy, thanks for sharing.
    I'll have to study it a little more, more complicated than the circuit in this thread.
    It looks like your second circuit variation has the battery short circuiting across Q3, I see that circuit part is acting like a voltage divider for driving the other transistors in an alternating way.
    Just wondering if that will waste much power that way.
    peace love light
    Kindness for all!
    In the sensory start there is no short circuit, it needs to be done through a resistor, I just did not specify in the circuit. The structure is static and the beginning of the magnetization cycle is required. Weigh the circuit, in combination with the coil inducer 1,2,3.
    4 coil, the trigger circuit is low-current. A couple of turns around 1 winding with a wire of a small cross section are sufficient.

    The main thing in this scheme is the construction of an inductor. When the current is excited in the circuit, the total field is accumulated by only 1 winding. After excitation is turned off, the field is discharged through two coils (1 and 2), the total resistance (Ohm) of two coils is less than three when excited. The motion of the magnetic flux, there is no interference, so the discharge in the energy potential should be higher
    Last edited by Rakarskiy; 12-14-2017, 07:40 AM.

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    • #17
      Hi all, still cycling this 12 volt battery, though i decided to change the radiant oscillator.
      I'm using a variant of the stingo oscillator.
      It is charging more effectively it seems.
      Here is the circuit drawing.
      peace love light

      Last edited by SkyWatcher; 12-22-2017, 04:24 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
        Hi all, still cycling this 12 volt battery, though i decided to change the radiant oscillator.
        I'm using a variant of the stingo oscillator.
        It is charging more effectively it seems.
        Here is the circuit drawing.
        peace love light
        When I went from spike mode to genmode and added the ultrafast
        recovery diodes I doubled my output energy. Did you try that?
        For the same identical input?
        Last edited by BroMikey; 12-16-2017, 01:21 AM.

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        • #19
          Hi mike, yes, i did try that with the other Meissner oscillator, did not do any thorough measurements as to it's output relative to spike mode, though i could see the increase in output and input.
          Also aware of the claims of better output for genmode.
          Though i am specifically focussed on spike mode, open loop coil discharge for now.
          I want the battery conditioned as much as possible and if that means the battery turns into more like a capacitor, so be it.
          Some observations so far.
          Before starting the conditioning process, when under the 7.5 watt load, the 12 volt tractor battery would sit a little above 12.50 volts for no more than 5-10 minutes on discharge.
          On the most recent discharge cycle, the battery sat between 12.50-12.60 for a little over
          2.5 hours.
          So, that is interesting i would say.
          I'm watching your work and videos mike, hope you can get that short circuit in your motor worked out.
          peace love light

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
            Hi mike, yes, i did try that with the other Meissner oscillator, did not do any thorough measurements as to it's output relative to spike mode, though i could see the increase in output and input.
            Also aware of the claims of better output for genmode.
            Though i am specifically focussed on spike mode, open loop coil discharge for now.
            I want the battery conditioned as much as possible and if that means the battery turns into more like a capacitor, so be it.
            Some observations so far.
            Before starting the conditioning process, when under the 7.5 watt load, the 12 volt tractor battery would sit a little above 12.50 volts for no more than 5-10 minutes on discharge.
            On the most recent discharge cycle, the battery sat between 12.50-12.60 for a little over
            2.5 hours.
            So, that is interesting i would say.
            I'm watching your work and videos mike, hope you can get that short circuit in your motor worked out.
            peace love light
            yes thx SHY I hope so too. Doing bus bars right now so I can charge
            all these battery while they are sitting around for years, maybe I just
            cap dump them for awhile till some day.

            The thing you are doing that interests me is maybe I might choose
            one of many circuits to replace this 85% booster converter. And since
            I'll need a 10amp ceiling it may need Generator Mode with a large coil.

            Did you ever look at the twin boost converter coils that charge things
            way faster? Ya know NPN and a PNP wig wag a sort of ZVS above
            and below the scopes center line?

            You could use extreme low power to get big energy.

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            • #21
              Hi mike, i know the ZVS circuit yes, just wondering your idea about using that with the spike method, a drawing might help me, thanks.
              peace love light

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
                Hi mike, i know the ZVS circuit yes, just wondering your idea about using that with the spike method, a drawing might help me, thanks.
                peace love light
                I can not find one circuit, it was deleted. look thru that thread DAVE45
                posted animations from overunity.

                http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ight=beast+osc



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                • #23
                  Hi mike, ok thanks, i did some research in that energy amplification thread and i see all the circuit ideas dave shared.
                  Not sure which of those would work to create an ultra short spike as this circuit does.
                  This stingo circuit was shown using a scope, that it always works to create the shortest pulse width possible, which i think is ideal for this oscillator spike method, battery conditioner.
                  peace love light

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                  • #24
                    Hi mike, yes the experimenter in another thread that used an oscilloscope to measure the pulsed output of this oscillator, was mentioning impulse durations of 10-50 microseconds.

                    Finished another charge cycle today.
                    The battery now sits at 13.00 volts after 4 hours resting.
                    Keep in mind, this battery would fall to the 12.7 range in 4 hours previously, before any conditioning.
                    peace love light

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                    • #25
                      Hi all, just another update on conditioning process.
                      Have made 5 full charge/discharge cycles so far, just finished 6th charge part of cycle.
                      The battery is now resting at 13.04 volts after 4 hours resting.
                      Another observation, the charge time is progressively getting shorter.
                      Also, the discharge time is remaining consistent, however, the battery is maintaining a higher average voltage, when discharging through the load.
                      I will continue the conditioning process, as long as beneficial changes can be observed.
                      peace love light

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                      • #26
                        Thank you for sharing this experiment with us Sky!

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                        • #27
                          Hi wistiti, your welcome.
                          Making these tests, because i never fully conditioned a flooded battery the way that is recommended.
                          Also, previous tests showed difficulty, actually fully charging a 12 volt battery with equal or less input voltage, using the spike method, though i was always using the sealed lead acid types previously.
                          Maybe previously, the circuits i was testing, did not have the oomph that this 5 parallel strand has.
                          I must say, after 6 full charge/discharge cycles, i am not seeing any fluffy charging in any way, if anything, the battery is getting stronger and stronger.
                          Then again, i have not hooked it up to a normal charger to see if it takes a proper charge that way.
                          Though why should we, if those chargers are just designed to cause sulfating plates over time, due to not being fully, properly charged.
                          peace love light

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                          • #28
                            Hi all, the battery conditioning is progressing well.
                            I'm also rejuvenating our tractor battery with the same circuit and that battery is improving greatly.
                            The battery under testing, is on its 8th cycle, just finished the charging part of that 8th cycle and the battery now rests at 13.04 volts after 4 hours time.
                            So at the moment, that is the biggest observable change, the same load is being powered with a much higher average voltage.

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                            • #29
                              SkyWatcher, thanks for reporting your results. You have a lot of patience to run these tests for 23 days now. I hope for your continued success. I have run similar tests in the past but the results were not as encouraging. Maybe now that I am retired I can follow what you are doing.
                              Garry

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                              • #30
                                Thank you for this useful and informative topic SkyWatcher.

                                I have several batteries that will not hold a good charge and would like to duplicate your pulse charger.

                                Would you be so kind as to tell us the length and diameter of the coil former to use for the Stingo coil?

                                Thank you, and happy holidays.

                                Cadman

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