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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    As these three YouTube videos relate to ED's work, and as it has been much discussed here, I thought they might be of interest.
    YouTube - Transformer core tests part 1
    YouTube - Transformer core tests part 2
    YouTube - Homemade magnetic amplifiers made from common materials.
    I posed a question to Nyle Steiner at his YouTube video. Here it is...

    BTW, the attached text files simulate in any one of the following locations...
    http://vinyasi.info/ne
    http://falstad.com/circuit/
    http://lushprojects.com/circuitjs/

    Or this downloadable zip file on a PC...
    pc-sim-falstad-vinyasi.zip
    http://is.gd/electsim
    http://is.gd/elektsim
    https://archive.org/download/pc-sim-...ad-vinyasi.zip

    PS-
    The addition of the two 1pF capacitors stimulate Eric Dollard's analog computer in LMD mode while the right-most capacitor of 100pF regulates both the frequency, resistance/impedance, and gain of power across the counter-wound pair of load coils beside it. The battery must be cut off immediately after startup or else it will drag the gain preventing it from occurring. The aerial could have been used as a reference from the beginning and throughout the simulation in place of the battery's initial contribution, but I liked the influence of using the ground at startup for its initial reference is unique apart from the aerial's referencing influence - so I kept the battery for its momentary contribution.

    I say 'reference', since I do not believe any energy comes from either the ground nor the air despite all appearances and our common belief system.

    It is a little known secret that all 'free' energy comes out of the multiplication of waves. Eric's use of capacitance interacting with inductance is a guarantee of wave manufacture. All I do is make sure the coils I simulate for wave multiplication have magnetizable cores (not air cores) often times with moderately low inductance (100 nano Henrys or less) and the capacitors are likewise between 1 to 10 pF. This insures that these two sets of components quickly reach saturation and react as Eric says they will: the energy entering/absorbed by the capacitors is not the same energy as that which comes back out. That emission is from counter-space using (I suspect) the capacitor's dielectric as a portal negotiating between space and its counterpart. I'm left to imagine that a similar situation is occurring among a pair of low level inductors negotiating a magnetic interchange, an interaction, between space and counter-space. Since energy is composed of more than merely information (its waveform), the energy needed to incarnate (flesh out) waves comes out of the materials of a circuit's construction. That is why too much gain melts, or explodes, a circuit's components resulting in its self-destruction. And this is why energy is theoretically limitless within the boundaries of a circuit's tolerance to support it.

    PPS-
    Eric Dollard's LMD is a self-saturating module. That's why it comes as a pair of inductors coupled with a pair of capacitors: each saturates its duplicate component. This saturation makes overunity possible since what goes into a component does not equal what comes out provided all amperage references (what we normally call 'sources') have access to unlimited variability, such as: the Earth or an aerial.

    Thus, all I had to do was add a pair of low level capacitors to Nyle Steiner's Homemade Mag Amp schematic (with the dual diodes), and a few other mods to create an equivalence of Eric's LMD, because the principle of mutual saturation was already built into both circuit concepts.

    Eric Dollard's LMD Analog Computer is the Mutual Saturation of Capacitance and Magnetism
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCrRkfU1jKo
    (I particularly enjoyed BMan18's comment pinned to the top)

    More dialogue...
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...31/TOWtoHHyaXA
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Vinyasi; 03-22-2018, 02:55 AM.

  • #2
    Eric Dollard's Magamp

    Hi Vinyasi,

    Have you ever looked into Eric Dollard's magamp design posted in his thread? Polakowski built a crude version of it in the past and it had promising results. I have all the parts here, but haven't had time to assemble it.
    Sincerely,
    Aaron Murakami

    Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
    Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
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    • #3
      My response to Ken Wheeler

      5:22
      I have to disagree. Partially, at least.

      The increased number of raised nails are reshaping the extension of the magnet's field to make it more intense. Less raised nails would be a weaker extension. Since magnetism cannot be barred with the use of any kind of barrier, the only thing left remaining which can be done is to extend a magnetic field through magnetizable material. Your examples of ferrous fluid exhibits this property. This increased intensity is stronger at repelling surrounding nails causing a widening ring of non-raised nails. That's all. Nothing else. No dielectricity is being invoked unless equivalent to this explanation as well. The reason you have to use greater force to shake more nails towards the magnet is due to the formation of a ring of repulsion surrounding whatever quantity of nails are shook towards the magnet. The greater the number of nails results in a greater field of repulsion surrounding those nails. This is similar to osmotic pressure. The greater number of ions absorbed results in less osmotic force of absorption - a form of negative feedback.

      In other words, despite our obsession with magnetic poles as if that's all what magnetism is about, there appears to be another force opposite to magnetism which does not align itself with the Bosch wall, but with the whole exterior space surrounding magnetizable objects at right angles to their poles. If this is the dielectric field of a magnet, then so be it. But this is a result of magnetism and in no way interferes with it. Instead, this other force is at the mercy of magnetism. Magnetism is dictating its own world. Nothing else is interfering. In fact, I will go further in speculating that if some other force exists apart from magnetism, then this other force can only be noticed if magnetism steps aside. Otherwise, the heavy-handedness of magnetism obliterates all appearance of this other force's presence.

      Remember what Eric Dollard says about two of the three elements making up the synthesis of electricity, namely the two forces of: dielectricity and magnetism (the third element being time) -- each force exists only in complete denial of the other force.

      Also recall Eric's experiments with the space between two true Tesla coils (the ones with spacings between a singularly layered winding held on an armature) in which Eric made a galaxy appear in burnt out street lights. This space was a null zone in which the electromagnetic influence of his two coils canceled each other out. That's where the dielectric appeared.

      As an aside...
      This explains our use of counter-wound coils: to neutralize the average of the magnetic field of a coil, its dielectric field, by neutralizing its polarity of voltage and thus isolate the coil's net behavior to that of the magnetic/amperage/current quality, only.

      But dielectricity may not have any say so in this since all that is required is to cancel the externalization of magnetic poles in order to cancel voltage polarity and still have current traveling in one direction at a time along each of its respective pathways...
      Circuit Simulator Applet ported to JavaScript by Iain Sharp, from the original in Java by Paul Falstad, Used Here to Promote the Simulation of Surges Arising from the Judicious Use of Negative Resistance.

      Current is always isolated to a single track of passage while voltage is a field extending outside a track. So, voltage polarity gets canceled with counter-wound coils while current is preserved within the confines of each track.

      Conclusion...
      Dielectricity can only be inferred since it appears as a statistical result of a magnetizing current.
      Magnetism can be measured since it appears in the same manner as current in a wire appears.

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      • #4
        counter space energy, dielectricity.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdPQwe6gA0Q

        whenever someone tries to explain energy from counter space, this scenario is what comes into my mind.. and the counter space is the area where antman stopped shrinking.. sometimes its so great it appears as if I'm studying a fantasy..

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        • #5
          Is this what you mean?

          Originally posted by Aaron View Post
          Hi Vinyasi,

          Have you ever looked into Eric Dollard's magamp design posted in his thread? Polakowski built a crude version of it in the past and it had promising results. I have all the parts here, but haven't had time to assemble it.
          I had a hard time finding Eric's schematic. This was the closest I came to...
          http://www.energeticforum.com/201435-post20.html

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          • #6
            Correct...

            Originally posted by ricards View Post
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdPQwe6gA0Q

            whenever someone tries to explain energy from counter space, this scenario is what comes into my mind.. and the counter space is the area where antman stopped shrinking.. sometimes its so great it appears as if I'm studying a fantasy..
            Executing a circuit and theorizing why the circuit does whatever it does are vastly two distinct actions. The former is precise. The latter has innumerable variations /including physics/ - none of which deters the former. Consider the latter as light entertainment loosely based on the former and take another swig of V8. Ah! Feel better?

            I never heard of curiosity fed imagination being considered one of the deadly sins of religious morals, but I could be wrong here...

            As an aside...
            I certainly don't need a green card to perform heretical physics. If a circuit violates the laws of physics, then maybe physics is unconstitutional? Immoral? And irreligious? Ultimately, in denial of the self.

            None of which matters to me. My only concern is where does reality fall short of my simulations or where does the simulator's theoretical electronics fall short of reality whenever simulating Eric's theme of a dual capacitor coupled to a dual inductor, mutually saturated, unstable LMD analog computer module if none of these simulations can be built?

            Nice video, btw.
            Last edited by Vinyasi; 03-23-2018, 09:44 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Vinyasi View Post
              Executing a circuit and theorizing why the circuit does whatever it does are vastly two distinct actions. The former is precise. The latter has innumerable variations /including physics/ - none of which deters the former. Consider the latter as light entertainment loosely based on the former and take another swig of V8. Ah! Feel better?

              I never heard of curiosity fed imagination being considered one of the deadly sins of religious morals, but I could be wrong here...

              As an aside...
              I certainly don't need a green card to perform heretical physics. If a circuit violates the laws of physics, then maybe physics is unconstitutional? Immoral? And irreligious? Ultimately, in denial of the self.

              None of which matters to me. My only concern is where does reality fall short of my simulations or where does the simulator's theoretical electronics fall short of reality whenever simulating Eric's theme of a dual capacitor coupled to a dual inductor, mutually saturated, unstable LMD analog computer module if none of these simulations can be built?

              Nice video, btw.
              sometimes maybe I like to think in terms of coming up a better explanation of this "Dielectric force".. i mean It's there alright and the most logical explanation of its source was from the infinity inside, since It pulls things together.. like some black hole or some sort.. not to the point of getting into another dimension like explanation.. something that makes much more sense.. but who can think in terms of infinity huh?.. ..
              our minds are limited as they are and somehow we like to think to limit things so that we can understand things.. so thus we create concepts like "Counter Space" or "Other dimensions"... just to make a point of reference.. to answer our own question "where"...

              but what if.. just what if.. the energy is not really from the "Counter Space" or other dimension.. what if It's just from the ambient surrounding?.. just from the air around the capacitor...

              let me reword that..

              what if.. its all just like "Temperature" when you evacuate the "Electric temperature" of the capacitor, the ambient background will pour some of its temperature into that capacitor, so that when you put back the temperature that you have evacuated, it's more than it was before..

              your statement reminds me of the book "Occult Ether Physics"..

              but back on topic, I don't think you can get "Unlimited Gains" there's a certain limit on which everything will balance, IMO that's what the nature has been doing from the start, and always have been, to balance things..

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              • #8
                We talk about the higgs field we can trap an electron by a proton.
                Looking at magnets we can describe the energy as a local source
                and we describe a source called higgs that is turned on everywhere.
                Higgs field gives the electron mass.
                We do not understand what dark matter is.
                The gravitational lensing allows us to approximate a simulation. as shown

                https://youtu.be/-4Mz4OGVC_U?t=3114

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                • #9
                  This is a lively discussion...

                  ..over at DIY Electric Car forum on magamps used for overunity gain...
                  magnetic amplifier to boost performance - DIY Electric Car Forums

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                  • #10
                    OK, but...

                    Originally posted by ricards View Post
                    sometimes maybe I like to think in terms of coming up a better explanation of this "Dielectric force".. i mean It's there alright and the most logical explanation of its source was from the infinity inside, since It pulls things together.. like some black hole or some sort.. not to the point of getting into another dimension like explanation.. something that makes much more sense.. but who can think in terms of infinity huh?.. ..
                    our minds are limited as they are and somehow we like to think to limit things so that we can understand things.. so thus we create concepts like "Counter Space" or "Other dimensions"... just to make a point of reference.. to answer our own question "where"...

                    but what if.. just what if.. the energy is not really from the "Counter Space" or other dimension.. what if It's just from the ambient surrounding?.. just from the air around the capacitor...

                    let me reword that..

                    what if.. its all just like "Temperature" when you evacuate the "Electric temperature" of the capacitor, the ambient background will pour some of its temperature into that capacitor, so that when you put back the temperature that you have evacuated, it's more than it was before..

                    your statement reminds me of the book "Occult Ether Physics"..

                    but back on topic, I don't think you can get "Unlimited Gains" there's a certain limit on which everything will balance, IMO that's what the nature has been doing from the start, and always have been, to balance things..
                    Infinity is not intangible.
                    The early days of computers were dealing with negative zero, but couldn't deal with it in an honest way. They had to hide it by performing two's compliment arithmetic at the terminus of an operation so as to not result in a negative zero whenever a quantity was subtracted from itself.

                    Anyone who's studied the I Ching, Chinese Book of Changes, knows that anything taken to its extreme flips, inverts, into its opposite. So, magnitude may seem intangible, but polarity is not.

                    But from the perspective of a computer's register (the thingy holding onto all those one's and zero's), the limit of that register (be it a 16 bit register, or a 32 bit register, or whatever number of digits base two it can hold) is - for all intents and purposes - infinity. But the catch, in this system, is there are two infinities.

                    Who has ever quantified zero, anyway?

                    That's looking at it from the perspective of the individual digits, base two. But from the standpoint of the entire register, regardless of its size, there's only two numbers which exist in the entire universe in base two. That is: zero and infinity.

                    Now, this is not useless philosophy. This has practical benefits. See if you can use this line of logic to partially, or completely if you're more fortunate than I, define division of any real number by zero. Now, can you do it? Any more readily than before this discussion?

                    I can. I can define it (if my memory serves me) for one case out of four possible cases, partially define it in two, and not in the fourth case. What do you think these four cases are? Do they satisfy all possibilities?

                    Although the I Ching, and the Tao for that matter, delineates these two extremes as Yang and Yin, the Vedas go one step further by making this into a trilogy: Sat-Chit-Ananda: Energy, Intelligence, Bliss. Yang and Yin are defined quite well by two of the eight trigrams of the I Ching: Chien (three solid line trigram) for Creative Fullness of Energy and K'un for Voidness of Intelligent (three broken line trigram).

                    I think that it is the Brahma Sutras of the Vedas which proclaim: "Two fullnesses: fullness of fullness and fullness of emptiness...." [Purnamida; purnamidam] "...Take fullness from fullness and fullness remains."

                    Would it be too far a stretch of the imagination to suppose that the aether may be more than merely the numeric equivalence of the complex number field quantifying counter-space as Eric describes?

                    What if it's an unlimited void, or fullness, of energy which is non-quantifiable in that realm/state of its existence? What if it can only be measured by real numbers out here in physicality due to infinity having been split off into multiple physical infinities which we count, ie measure, as definitive quantities of infinite identities? Kind of makes ya think, uh?

                    This may be analogous to the study of infinite sets denoted by aleph sub zero, aleph sub one, etc.? I don't know. But it sounds similar....

                    How much Aether is in your Coffee?

                    If a mind can meditate, transcend the physical world of the senses, and experience Sat-Chit-Ananda at its fundamental source beyond this trilogy, then infinity (or Friedrich Nietzsche's existentialist void) is not beyond the mind's experience. It's merely beyond the mind's grasp as a concept on par with everything else we take to be the exclusive domain of the mind, namely: quantifiable by our senses.

                    I think Eric is doing a superb job of quantifying the intangible. It sounds voodoo-ish, but who cares? Charlie Lutes always used to say that scientists of the future will become more like priests and priests will become more like scientists. Go figure?

                    Unlimited gains are the infinite potential realm which the simulator suggests due to my interpretation of trends. A circuit trending upwards in gain with no terminus in sight, accelerating logarithmically as Eric says they do when exhibiting the behavior of an impulse current, is an unlimited gain in my opinion. Why? Because the simulator has an arbitrary limit set at 10 raised to the power of +/- 48 (again, if my memory serves me last time I checked Paul Falstad's electronic simulator).

                    And BTW, I think the LMD module of Eric performs at least one function which I can recognize: that of magnifying a trend. So, if a trending circuit is gaining, then that's what it will continue to do ad infinitum. But if the circuit is trending towards null, balance, or zero mid-line on the oscilloscope tracing, then the LMD will lock in that trend until its limit is reached or its asymptote is approached from which an infinite limit may be suggestive.

                    Out of all this talk of infinity, I think what Eric is doing with the concepts of counter-space and complex numbers is quantifying the engineerable amounts of magnetic catalyst entering into a coil or the dielectric catalyst entering into a capacitor's dielectric to stimulate a fixed, but partly non-predictable, quantity of these two basic energies springing out of these two fundamental electronic components to synthesize electricity under certain conditions outside of their commonly understood functions to merely: "give OUT whatever they take IN" minus thermodynamic losses, etc. Thus, they possess two practical functions: one unconventional and the latter very conventional.

                    Oh, and by another way, one limit - or balance - of Nature is the tolerance in any particular circuit for exhibiting infinite gain before it melts, explodes, etc. So, in theory: energy is limitless while in practice our circuits can only take so much abuse beyond their tolerance. I think impulse current is a stressful experience for the physicality of a circuit at any quantity since impulses are unpredictable, extremely variable, etc despite the irony that impulse current springs from infinity: the ultimate state of non-stress!

                    I once visited a dream analyst who also specialized in the I Ching, among other things, and he said that: "the experience of some reality or another by the mind beyond its cherished habits can be very enlightening. But woe to whomever can't handle that experience. For they could go insane if not adequately mature enough." And the body must be stable as well.

                    Borax in my fruit juice helps me since my body has gone through tremendous stressers which would have left me dead a few times over had I not investigated various health protocols. Whatever helps the body will help the mind.
                    Last edited by Vinyasi; 03-26-2018, 12:17 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
                      We talk about the higgs field we can trap an electron by a proton.
                      Looking at magnets we can describe the energy as a local source
                      and we describe a source called higgs that is turned on everywhere.
                      Higgs field gives the electron mass.
                      We do not understand what dark matter is.
                      The gravitational lensing allows us to approximate a simulation. as shown

                      https://youtu.be/-4Mz4OGVC_U?t=3114

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                      • #12
                        will look

                        Originally posted by Vinyasi View Post
                        I had a hard time finding Eric's schematic. This was the closest I came to...
                        http://www.energeticforum.com/201435-post20.html
                        Different from that - may have been posted by Polakowski.

                        I think I have them in my archives. I'll post them here if I can find them.
                        Sincerely,
                        Aaron Murakami

                        Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                        Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                        RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Vinyasi View Post
                          Infinity is not intangible.
                          The early days of computers were dealing with negative zero, but couldn't deal with it in an honest way. They had to hide it by performing two's compliment arithmetic at the terminus of an operation so as to not result in a negative zero whenever a quantity was subtracted from itself.
                          ...

                          Unlimited gains are the infinite potential realm which the simulator suggests due to my interpretation of trends. A circuit trending upwards in gain with no terminus in sight, accelerating logarithmically as Eric says they do when exhibiting the behavior of an impulse current, is an unlimited gain in my opinion. Why? Because the simulator has an arbitrary limit set at 10 raised to the power of +/- 48 (again, if my memory serves me last time I checked Paul Falstad's electronic simulator).

                          And BTW, I think the LMD module of Eric performs at least one function which I can recognize: that of magnifying a trend. So, if a trending circuit is gaining, then that's what it will continue to do ad infinitum. But if the circuit is trending towards null, balance, or zero mid-line on the oscilloscope tracing, then the LMD will lock in that trend until its limit is reached or its asymptote is approached from which an infinite limit may be suggestive.
                          ...

                          Oh, and by another way, one limit - or balance - of Nature is the tolerance in any particular circuit for exhibiting infinite gain before it melts, explodes, etc. So, in theory: energy is limitless while in practice our circuits can only take so much abuse beyond their tolerance. I think impulse current is a stressful experience for the physicality of a circuit at any quantity since impulses are unpredictable, extremely variable, etc despite the irony that impulse current springs from infinity: the ultimate state of non-stress!

                          I once visited a dream analyst who also specialized in the I Ching, among other things, and he said that: "the experience of some reality or another by the mind beyond its cherished habits can be very enlightening. But woe to whomever can't handle that experience. For they could go insane if not adequately mature enough." And the body must be stable as well.

                          Borax in my fruit juice helps me since my body has gone through tremendous stressers which would have left me dead a few times over had I not investigated various health protocols. Whatever helps the body will help the mind.
                          From the definition itself "Infinity" if you have got away to tell what is "Infinity" then that is not "infinity".. but we can grasp the Idea of "Infinity" really well..

                          negative zero are errors and illusions and are one of the "Contradictory terminology" that exist in our reality that we cannot define properly.
                          number zero serves as a reference.. the sole purpose so that we can "Quantify".

                          the results on the simulators are only defined in the limit of the simulators itself. the effects are only up to what the programmer understand in the reality that he is trying to "copy". If he missed one thing, the result can be a total loop or infinity. I speak of one who does programming as well. and Infinity or Loop is the thing we avoid/eliminate as It will cause the program to "Hang"..

                          but not in real life experiments.. I've designed and built circuits that was supposed to have "Infinite" gains according to my understanding but did not.. simply because I have not understood the reality completely..
                          but I learned from that..
                          and this is what I'm telling now.. It will show a "gain" but will start to decline if you do not sustain it from some source..
                          one thing that I'm sure based on my previous experiments.. all the "Potential" go down to the equilibrium of the system, the "Imbalance" will balance, the rate of which this "Potential" returns to equilibrium with regards to the time It took to equalize in seconds is called "Energy". EPD has been telling that right?.. it's not some primary thing..
                          remember?..

                          Dielectricity , Magnetism, Space & Time
                          Mass, Temperature, Space & Time

                          but sometimes it feels as if something is missing or not right in it..

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                          • #14
                            Magamp Images Galore

                            Enjoying this thread. Thought I'd throw in this link to magamp images:
                            https://www.google.ca/search?q=overu...w=1920&bih=925
                            Bob

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                            • #15
                              Maybe so

                              Originally posted by ricards View Post
                              From the definition itself "Infinity" if you have got away to tell what is "Infinity" then that is not "infinity".. but we can grasp the Idea of "Infinity" really well..

                              negative zero are errors and illusions and are one of the "Contradictory terminology" that exist in our reality that we cannot define properly.
                              number zero serves as a reference.. the sole purpose so that we can "Quantify".
                              It had appeared to me that one's compliment arithmetic's need to polarize two relativistic limits, within the boundaries of the number of digits/bits within its registers, as two similar magnitudes of opposite polarity equivalent for all intents and purposes as its definition of infinity was also formulated in the Tao and I Ching.

                              Taking this one step further, I believe this is useful in defining the division by zero problem as a permutation of four options.
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