An Inquiry into Alexey Chekurkov’s Flying Discs and Replications

[Gambeir]

A more convinced video even with some flying stability problems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iamb6YhrEks

Some thoughts on this device:
1. Each time we have a rotated magnetic field on a plate, we also have displacement currents like what happens with capacitors.

2. The upper rotating disk looks more like a counter force to the lower rotating disk so the device will not start rotating when in the air.

3. Katchers like what Alexey uses can not give more than 1.5-2KV. Not to speak about tens of Kilovolts as it has been mentioned.

Hi guys, i hope you are doing well. I am Jeg and i am very curious for this crazy maschine.

Regards

Goood observations Jeq and cancelling the torque with a counter rotating overhead disc does seem the most likely explanation.

[spacecase0]

So this means you can burn your nerves without to perceive any pain (?)

you get electrocuted by your own muscles beating you to death
but they can only react so fast
so if the frequency is high enough, no issues.
now you can still get physically burnt, but if it is low power, it is not an issue

[spacecase0]

Okay, so I'm finally ready.

Ready for testing... SV-1.
Pictures tell the story so far..

HV DC power supply finished:

Arcing:

Features the PWM input with percentage displayed.

Inside:

Runs from 11.1V at the moment.

Tesla coil circuit completed:

PWM input plus 10K pot on the base of the transistor, (post circuit later).

Tesla Coil, HV DC and motor speed control, together. All run off Lipo batteries:


SV-1 disc device view:


SV-1 device side view:



Testing has begun, no lift off or movment at this stage... but I was only into a few minutes of initial testing when the on-board voltage mulitplier arced out, (small flame too) - So have to redesign or insulate it from arcing... Then testing can resume...

More later...

Sputins.

good work
if you don't get any results, and if you can, try unequal speeds on the disks.

[Sputins]

good work
if you don't get any results, and if you can, try unequal speeds on the disks.

Thanks.

They sort of do that automatically already. The top disc spins faster than the bottom, given the same input voltage to the motors. – I think the lower disc spins slower due to the added weight of the magnets and also because of the magnetic breaking effect with the aluminium centre plate...

[Gambeir]

Beautiful work Sputins. I can hardly wait given the understanding you have.
Looks like I'm about to be relieved of an ARV print.

[Sputins]

More from this website.

Alexey Device

This guys done some really good research, albeit I don't think he has everything 100% correct.

[Ufopolitics]

Okay, so I'm finally ready.

Ready for testing... SV-1.
Pictures tell the story so far..

HV DC power supply finished:

Arcing:

Features the PWM input with percentage displayed.

Inside:

Runs from 11.1V at the moment.

Tesla coil circuit completed:

PWM input plus 10K pot on the base of the transistor, (post circuit later).

Tesla Coil, HV DC and motor speed control, together. All run off Lipo batteries:


SV-1 disc device view:


SV-1 device side view:



Testing has begun, no lift off or movment at this stage... but I was only into a few minutes of initial testing when the on-board voltage mulitplier arced out, (small flame too) - So have to redesign or insulate it from arcing... Then testing can resume...

More later...

Sputins.

Hi Sputins!

Great work!!...I love how clean and neat plus organized you put everything together!!

However...in order to lift up...I believe you are missing one main component.







That would be a clear, almost invisible and very, very thin fishing line passing through a pulley attached to the ceiling...


Just kidding , looks great


On a side note (while mentioning fishing line attached to roof..)...have you all noticed on the Indoor Video...when he has the device in the air...then he gets a flexible cord to pass it through...which I suppose you all have noticed it has a darker color joint...may be magnetic? fast snap on-off?...

But the point here...or my question...why does he has to STRETCH HIS BODY that MUCH...when supposedly there is nothing above the device?

Why, instead...He just run that flex cord above device, so we all could see cord at all time?

Sorry I am coming up with this doubt kind of late by now...but I had this in my mind for a while now...while watching video a few times, and wanted to share it here for you all to analyze it.

Regards



Ufopolitics

[spacecase0]

Sputins,
if you got something like -5% thrust out of this, could you tell the way you have it set up ?

[sinergicus]

I think would be a good idea to using a scale to see the weight of the system and his behavior during testing...when we make tunings on the system we should seee what happens at the scale...when the system start to loose weight the scale will promptly pointing out that ...

[sinergicus]

Regarding the rotating direction of magnets plate ,I found this page http://www.esotericscience.com/antigravity.aspx where is mentioned :
: The Roschin-Godin device clearly shows that a clockwise rotation produces a weight reduction and an anti-clockwise rotation a weight gain! and : Another interesting gravity shielding effect was demonstrated by Eugene Podkletnov's rapidly rotating superconducting disk [4].
When the disk is spun at some 7000 rpm in the presence of an external magnetic field anything situated above the disk loses weight.

So seems the high rpm will give more powerful effects ....

[sinergicus]

I just want to mention as a future idea for improvements of the Alexey sistem .... getting rid of classical motors and using electrostatic motors for turning the magnet plates.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3yO7jYaD98 this type of motors are already constructed by Japanese ...

[Sputins]

Hi Sputins!

Great work!!...I love how clean and neat plus organized you put everything together!!

However...in order to lift up...I believe you are missing one main component.


That would be a clear, almost invisible and very, very thin fishing line passing through a pulley attached to the ceiling...


Just kidding , looks great


On a side note (while mentioning fishing line attached to roof..)...have you all noticed on the Indoor Video...when he has the device in the air...then he gets a flexible cord to pass it through...which I suppose you all have noticed it has a darker color joint...may be magnetic? fast snap on-off?...

But the point here...or my question...why does he has to STRETCH HIS BODY that MUCH...when supposedly there is nothing above the device?

Why, instead...He just run that flex cord above device, so we all could see cord at all time?

Sorry I am coming up with this doubt kind of late by now...but I had this in my mind for a while now...while watching video a few times, and wanted to share it here for you all to analyze it.

Regards



Ufopolitics

Thanks for the encouragement UFO.

I did mention in the ARV thread that this whole thing may indeed be a trick or a hoax. I pointed out the cut and shadow seen in the original “fireplace” video. Some of the footage seen is slightly questionable and some of it is very convincing. It is also one reason for actually trying to replicate it, (given that the schematic was provided) to try and prove it one way or another. I’m hoping to prove it to be true.

Funny enough I did think suspending the device from a string might provide some advantage to see if it oscillates or moves in any direction other than up or down.

[Sputins]

Cladestine Disclosure

I wrote an email to Walter of Cladestine Disclosure.com and thankfully he replied to me. I gave him the link to this forum.
He has now put a link to this discussion at the beginning of his website.

Alexey Device

In an email to me, he wrote the following:

Thanks for sharing…here are a few notes for you.

1) Your plates can’t be anodized. The layer represents an insulation, which prevents any kind of charge being applied to the disk. I can’t tell from your photos whether your plates are anodized. I’m no metals expert.

2) A charged spinning plate actually creates a magnetic field

3) You need to apply very high voltages to your plates – think in terms of a million volts vs. the maybe 60KV coming off of that tesla coil

4) Try placing positive pulsed DC (rectified) charge on top and negative one on the bottom

5) The middle plate – not sure about that. We think it may be some flavor of AC; but, it needs to have a charge. We think it’s there to keep top and bottom polarities separate…perhaps to keep the two from mixing.

6) Regarding the ultrasonic speaker on top combing with the textured metal, you’ll have to play with that one. We’re not sure whether it has an effect. If you get yours to operate, consider conducting a test where you switch off the speaker.

7) Everything in resonance…all three plates and the ultrasonic sound.

8) Alternate configuration for power…I thik I’ve posted this on my website – it came from the engineers during one of our calls. Ignore the schematic and buy an off-the-shelf tesla coil and use it in conjunction with a neon sign…I forget what it’s called…transformer? Is that right? Check out the Alexey articles on my projects webpage for more information; and, good luck!

Please keep me posted on your progress.

[spacecase0]

Funny enough I did think suspending the device from a string might provide some advantage to see if it oscillates or moves in any direction other than up or down.

make a balance scale out of it, the device being on a string and being half of the balance.
or at least that is how I run all my tests.

[Sputins]

make a balance scale out of it, the device being on a string and being half of the balance.
or at least that is how I run all my tests.

100% - Good idea, then one can see all directions, including up or down.