The bistander thread

[Turion]

I don't make deals/agreements with liars and frauds.
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As you quoted, Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists name-calling as the lowest type of argument in a disagreement.

If the shoe fits.

Make the bet, COWARD.
Coward: One who succumbs to cowardice is known as a coward. Cowardice is a trait wherein excessive FEAR prevents an individual from taking a risk or facing danger. It is the opposite of courage. As a label, "cowardice" indicates a failure of character in the face of a challenge.

Spineless: lacking resolution; weak and purposeless."a spineless coward"

So either you ARE a coward, and you're not willing to make the bet, or I'm the liar and you ARE willing to make the bet. But we all know the TRUTH now don't we?

[bistander]

Make the bet, COWARD.
Coward: One who succumbs to cowardice is known as a coward. Cowardice is a trait wherein excessive FEAR prevents an individual from taking a risk or facing danger. It is the opposite of courage. As a label, "cowardice" indicates a failure of character in the face of a challenge.

Spineless: lacking resolution; weak and purposeless."a spineless coward"

Read the statement below the piramid.

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[Turion]

Make the bet, COWARD.
Coward: One who succumbs to cowardice is known as a coward. Cowardice is a trait wherein excessive FEAR prevents an individual from taking a risk or facing danger. It is the opposite of courage. As a label, "cowardice" indicates a failure of character in the face of a challenge.

Spineless: lacking resolution; weak and purposeless."a spineless coward"

[bistander]

... a failure of character in the face of a challenge. ...

A challenge? As in providing proof of one's claim?

You've said it yourself. Your reputation is on the line. Not mine.

Me? A coward? Who cares?

You just keep on going about this irrelevant crap. Let's get back to the nitty gritty. Got a recent test? What's holding back the output/input test at Greyland's? Not the results you want?

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[Turion]

Coward: One who succumbs to cowardice is known as a coward. Cowardice is a trait wherein excessive FEAR prevents an individual from taking a risk or facing danger. It is the opposite of courage. As a label, "cowardice" indicates a failure of character in the face of a challenge.

Spineless: lacking resolution; weak and purposeless."a spineless coward"

[bistander]

... it’s not a deal or an agreement. It’s a bet.

bet

noun
English Language Learners Definition of bet


(Entry 1 of 2)

: an agreement in which people try to guess what will happen and the person who guesses wrong has to give something (such as money) to the person who guesses right

"an agreement"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bet
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I simply quote your false statement followed by the truth

[Turion]

Because you are a COWARD who hides in the dark attempting to discredit the work of others who put their reputation on the line. If you had a spine you would take the bet. But you won’t. Why? Because I am right and you know it. I’ve put my reputation on the line and I’m willing to back up my claims with $$$. You really need SOMETHING to hold you up, since you have no spine. By the way, it’s not a deal or an agreement. It’s a bet. One you will never accept because you will lose.

[bistander]

Turion,
This latest exchange about your LiFe battery cell count excuse demonstrates several lies from you, doesn't it? And there are numerous others examples. By far the biggest boldest is your extraordinary claim of 2000 watts_out/300 watts_in.

In general, I don't call you a liar, as you claim. "But keep calling me a liar". I did once, actually as a compliment, saying something to the effect that you couldn't possibly be that dense so you must be lying and playing a scam. But I don't get into name-calling, like you're so fond to do. I simply quote your false statement followed by the truth and let the reader draw his conclusion. So the following is a general statement for all to use as an answer to your question "why won't you make it?"

I don't make deals/agreements with liars and frauds.
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[Turion]

And the readers will get the truth at the conference. But keep calling me a liar. And I will keep showing everyone that you are a spineless COWARD who hides in the dark and won't put his money where his mouth is. If I could not POSSIBLY win the bet, why won't you make it? We ALL know the answer to that one.

[bistander]

That's assuming you know what "standard 26650 cells" are. Which I did not. I could not see IF there was a bottom layer of cells or how they were connected. You just have to keep harping on this don't you? Is it so important to you to prove me wrong on any little thing you can? Because that is what you have always attempted to do. It's kind of interesting really, that you would devote as much time as you have to dissecting every little thing about me, trying your very BEST to make me appear incompetent and untrustworthy. Why is that? You do it from the dark like the coward you are. And you won't put your money where your mouth is. Come on, little man. Step up.

And by the way, I hope you ARE at the conference, because I'm sure going to have a few things to say about you during my presentation.

You ask:

"Is it so important to you to prove me wrong on any little thing you can? Because that is what you have always attempted to do. It's kind of interesting really, that you would devote as much time as you have to dissecting every little thing about me, trying your very BEST to make me appear incompetent and untrustworthy. Why is that?"

Because you will not prove your extraordinary claim and you continue to post falsehoods. Simple as that. Everything I post is true. I think readers deserve truth, which they do not get from you concerning energy and physics. Truth stands on its own merit regardless from where I say it.

And knowing the dimensions of the LiFePO4 cell wasn't required to know the connections.

You say:

"...trying your very BEST to make me appear incompetent and untrustworthy."

Actually I don't try at all, I just post the truth and let the rest just happen.
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[Turion]

That's assuming you know what "standard 26650 cells" are. Which I did not. I could not see IF there was a bottom layer of cells or how they were connected. You just have to keep harping on this don't you? Is it so important to you to prove me wrong on any little thing you can? Because that is what you have always attempted to do. It's kind of interesting really, that you would devote as much time as you have to dissecting every little thing about me, trying your very BEST to make me appear incompetent and untrustworthy. Why is that? You do it from the dark like the coward you are. And you won't put your money where your mouth is. Come on, little man. Step up.

And by the way, I hope you ARE at the conference, because I'm sure going to have a few things to say about you during my presentation.

[bistander]

And if you look at that picture the wrap is still all around the cells so you cannot see how they are connected, except that there are wires on top, nor can you see if there are more than six cells. So what's your point? ...

Here is a clearer image of the LiFePO4 battery which you posted back then. image_21805.jpg

It is clearly visible that the spot-welded nickel strips (busbars) connect three cells each, each of those three-cell groups in parallel. Also the shape and size would indicate those are standard 26650 cells. The logical conclusion is that battery consists of 12 cells in a 3P4S (3 in parallel, 4 in series) configuration.
Easy stuff.
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[Turion]

So make that bet, COWARD. Put up or shut up.

It must really chap your butt to know that someone who knows so much less about motors and generators than YOU claim to has been able to figure out what you haven't. LOL. If I'm truly WRONG, why not make that bet ? Hmmm? Why don't you? WHY? Because you know you're wrong and you are too cheap to put your money where your mouth is. COWARD. I think that's going to be my response to everything you say from now on. Make the bet, COWARD.

[bistander]

And if you look at that picture the wrap is still all around the cells so you cannot see how they are connected, except that there are wires on top, nor can you see if there are more than six cells. So what's your point? That I was deliberately LYING to people about how the battery was put together? I have already said many times that I made a mistake yet you continue to bring it up every chance you get as evidence that I do not know what I am talking about. Does it make you feel like a big man? Does it make you proud? I really hope you are getting SOMETHING out of it. LOL

Hi Turion,

You ask: "So what's your point? That I was deliberately LYING to people about how the battery was put together?"

My answer: It is obvious.

And to repeat what I've said numerous times, which is my point: You don't know what you're talking about so misinterpret what you see "on your bench right in front of you" and then spread falsehoods and ridicule me who tells the truth. In this case, you deliberately claim the battery was sealed so you couldn't see the connections and cells yet your photo from the post at the time and statement that you'd disassembled it further proves otherwise. You didn't know the fundamentals of the LiFePO4 cell so you "got it wrong". You don't know the fundamentals of energy, so you got that wrong also. You make excuses about the LiFe battery, still, and you'll make excuses about energy at the conference, if you go. Hmmm. There's something to think about. How do you know that I won't be at the conference?

Again, sincerely, good luck with your project. I do hope you deliver. And, seriously, I'll help to loop it if I can. Love to see it happen.
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[BroMikey]

Dave is getting ready for the conference and should not share anymore. Soon it will be very clear. The cores produce way more and the drive input remains the same. Go figure.

The other 1 battery system you already have been shown. Mean while you guys need to show some results yourselves.