The bistander thread

[ilandtan]

High Voltage N-Machine by Aaron Murakami


My high voltage n-machine proof of concept.

Ha! Now I don't have to prove it would work. That's outstanding!

In that vein, I now wonder if Otis T. Carr was doing the same thing with his UFO because he had used HV at the center of a rotating disc. Furthermore he was building energy in capacity because his disc also had capacitor plates. Which ultimately leads to your Dollard video of compression of fields lines in a capacitor. If you are taking coulombs of current and pushing it at the end of a disc, and make the perimeter of the disc plates, then you should have never ending high current available. So maybe the disk is actually two plates sandwiching a dielectric. Maybe an AV plug integrated to the core and legs being a plate. The shaft acts as an antenna for the plug, the charge separated into each plate, and the rotation provides the pressure to fill the plates quickly.

[bistander]

People choose their heros

It's more legitimate than all your claims combined - Mr. Paramahamsa Tewari is an inventor who developed one of the most validated "overunity" technologies in history. I know people that have gone to India to work with him and I know his son who spoke at my conference last year. Mr. Tewari passed in Dec 2017 and his son wishes to take his work forward.



If you had any intent to actually look into any of this, you would not lead with such a ridiculous statement of it being fake - then giving the phony appearance of being objective by stating you may have overlooked something.



There is nothing incredible about the claims because when you understand how energy and potential work and what they are, it makes complete sense. It's only incredible to those who do not comprehend such things just like many modern things if witnessed in ancient times would be considered magic.

250% or COP of 2.5? The new Miele heat pump dryer I just bought has a COP of about 2.5, which means it moves 250% more heat compared to the electrical equivalent of what it costs to run the compressor. An OPEN SYSTEM, contrary to nutjob's claim, and an overunity one at that.



So, Tewari has an electrical machine that has the same COP of my dryer - there is nothing magical or mystical about it. The dryer's free external environmental output that keeps it far from equilibrium is heat and in Tewari's machine, it polarizes space potential to enter the circuit. These are all operating in the exact same manner and there are mechanical machines that operate in this manner as well.



Credible claims? The head of India's Nuclear Power Corporation? Your method of operation is to keep moving the goalpost, which is what disingenuous trolls do. I saw your PM and recognize what you claim your background is, but he has more credibility than you do.



To relegate Mr. Tewari's work to something that "some guy" has in some box is disgraceful. He has dedicated much of his life to elevating humanity in such a selfless way and for you to come along and degrade his contributions is obscene. You don't even know who he is!

Hi Aaron,

You're right. I didn't study your guy much. But I did study his machine a bit. IMO, it is fake.

I like Felix Bloch. A Nobel physics laureate. I think it is a disgrace to assign his name to an imaginary boundary between North and South zones in a magnet. A ridiculous feature which has no foundation in reality. Yet how many members of this forum use the Bloch wall in their arguments?

So, I'm sorry if you feel I insulted your hero. Seems like my heros are under constant attack here. I really don't want to argue with you. You have opinions, and I am entitled to have different opinions.

Regards,

bi

[Aaron]

differences in opinion

Hi Aaron,

You're right. I didn't study your guy much. But I did study his machine a bit. IMO, it is fake.

I like Felix Bloch. A Nobel physics laureate. I think it is a disgrace to assign his name to an imaginary boundary between North and South zones in a magnet. A ridiculous feature which has no foundation in reality. Yet how many members of this forum use the Bloch wall in their arguments?

So, I'm sorry if you feel I insulted your hero. Seems like my heros are under constant attack here. I really don't want to argue with you. You have opinions, and I am entitled to have different opinions.

Regards,

bi

Your opinion is not qualified on the subject - mine is.



Tewari is not my hero - he is someone that I respect highly for his selfless contributions. Your heroes who are the names of conventional science have been thoroughly debunked over the last century and you're only holding on to those ideas because mainstream has never caught up. Acceptance is slow and laborious and you are obviously not one of the early adopters.



This is our home and is you coming here disrespecting us - not the other way around. You have a right to your opinion, true. But this is not a free speech zone. This is a private forum where there are rules. The public is invited and when they join, they agree to very specific rules. In this forum, you do not have the right to disrespect other members like you did with Turion no matter what your beliefs are. He has freely shared what he is under no obligation to share. Take it or leave it - do the experiments and find out for yourself or step aside. Don't get in the way of others who are interested.



Asking questions is one thing, but your condescending posts in the 3 battery thread are unacceptable.



Counter opinions are certainly welcome and is why I request that anyone that comes here trying to debunk something as if they have the experience or qualifications to do so to start their own thread just like you started here at my request - thank you. That way, you can have your say without filling up a productive thread with a bunch of posts that everyone has to filter through in order to get to the pertinent information.



For iamnuts, his condescending responses referring to me as if I'm not even here because he is too much of a gutless coward to actually address very specific references that outright debunk his bogus claims is a sure sign that he is here to do nothing more than troll those who are contributing. The jury is still out on you and yes, I know who you are and what your background is.



The references I posted happen to debunk your beliefs in such topics as well, but you aren't making the same mistakes as nutjob and you're welcome to stay as long you don't play the games that he is. A led with 233% more light than input power to power it - you know damn well that destroys your own paradigms as well and so far, your silence is deafening.



Anyone even pretending to be interested in exploring the truth here who is a skeptic needs to acknowledge anything that is posted that is addressing their skepticism. Otherwise, they're obviously here to blow hot air and disrupt and they'll just get booted. There are plenty of forums out there where cynical cowards can gather in paradise with their brethren of ignorance like in the James Randi forums and related. If I went into one of those forums and started to push my beliefs, it wouldn't be long until I'd be kicked out.

[Aaron]

@nutjob

You are a liar and con - nobody ever claimed homopolar generators ran for nothing - it obviously takes work to turn the prime mover.



Also, don't post about something acting like you know about these generators because it is obvious you only just now learned about them.



You have 24 hours to respond to my post that addressed 3 very specific items. You ignore them meaning that you are not here to do anything other than disrupt progress with your propaganda. This forum is for discussions and you are incapable of discussing anything that obviously exposes your nonsense. If you do not address those things that violate everything you are claiming, I will ban you and I will block all your IP addresses.

@YOUARENUTS -



You have about 14 hours from now - I'll simplify it. Address only the MIT experiment acknowledged by conventional science, which produced 233% more light than the electrical input requirement.



Tell us all how it violates physics, thermodynamics how there has to be an equal an opposite reaction and how that will limit the theoretical output to 100%, etc.



If you do not do that in a non-condescending way, you'll be booted and all your IP addresses will be blocked. This is the ONLY way you can prove you are not a time-wasting, cynical, disinformation spreading, troll.

[Iamnuts]

What we have.

We have got two boreholes, water is pumped from one, through a heat
recovery system and returned to the other. It saves a bit of oil because
it isn't quite enough for dhw. but sufficient for background heating.
We also have 40kw solar pv, which, by the way, works very well.
Perhaps the light thingy is a type of heat to electric device and is harvesting
ambient? It certainly seems to be in the realms of quantum, holes and all
that but not quite up to charging our Tesla car.
Sincerely John.

[Iamnuts]

Excited.

My big "find",as an offspin from the 3bgs is the lto battery.
In a lifetime I've ruined literally tons of la batteries.

[bistander]

Forum rules

... But this is not a free speech zone. This is a private forum where there are rules. The public is invited and when they join, they agree to very specific rules. ...

Hi Aaron,

I just spent a while searching for the very specific rules and must be overlooking the link or pathway. Would you provide me with the way to find that?

I did come across this which I feel is pertinent.

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Thanks in advance,

bi

[Iamnuts]

Future.

We need to look for new technology.
Reason.
Although my car runs well at the moment, I know only too well that
in a year or two the battery will fail and it will be JUNK.
The same applies to the solar pv, when it fails, more JUNK.
We need very long life and good recyclability.
Sincerely John.

[Aaron]

Overunity LED

Perhaps the light thingy is a type of heat to electric device and is harvesting ambient? It certainly seems to be in the realms of quantum, holes and all
that but not quite up to charging our Tesla car.
Sincerely John.

Wrong answer. Quantum? If you're not capable or willing to actually read the MIT study on the overunity LED system, then you are a troll who is simply interested in spreading your nonsense here.

According to you and your claims in the 3 battery thread, it is impossible to have a device that produces more work than you have to supply on the front end. The MIT LED demonstrates 233% MORE work than you have to supply in electricity on the front end. 30mw in and you get 70mw in light out of it. If anything like this existed, then the world of physics would be in turmoil. It was in the context of a low or no drag generator but the principles equally apply - getting more for less than you're supposed to according to the bogus laws of physics that you claim are inviolate.

Since according to you, this kind of system is supposed to be impossible yet it exists and is proved by MIT and is accepted by the academic world as being legit.

So, your bogus claims have been debunked by the mere existence of this one example. Do you or do you not acknowledge that you are wrong and that there are indeed systems that produce more work than the operator has to supply to the system?

[Aaron]

Forum Rules

Hi Aaron,

I just spent a while searching for the very specific rules and must be overlooking the link or pathway. Would you provide me with the way to find that?

I did come across this which I feel is pertinent.

Privacy - Energetic Forum


Thanks in advance,

bi

You already agreed that you read the forum rules when you signed up, which were posted during registration.



Besides that, it is a private website and we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.


I don't see the point of your request because it is just common sense and common courtesy for any decent human being to not insult or demean other people because they don't like or believe what someone is saying. Anyone that needs to verify if acting indecent is against the rules is not a decent human being. You can go look at any boilerplate forum rules at almost any website and they are all pretty much the same.



It's not your disagreement with Turion's claims that is the issue, it is the manner in which you express it that is problematic.

[Iamnuts]

Pathetic.

Aaron, have ago at researching phonons..

[Aaron]

lead acid batteries - amazing technology

My big "find",as an offspin from the 3bgs is the lto battery.
In a lifetime I've ruined literally tons of la batteries.

Of course, ignorance is problematic and contributes to filling up the scrap yard with batteries. If you understood lead acid battery chemistry and knew how to properly charge them, you could have given them a theoretical infinite life span because the chemistry is 100% reversible to like new condition on every charge cycle - IF you knew anything about them.



So it is all-telling that you complain about lead acid batteries when the truth is that all it reveals is you know nothing about them. Instead of acting like they're a bad technology, you would be better off learning what they actually are and how they work. I'm all for lithium batteries if they are LiFePo4 since they're small, energy dense, more environmentally friendly than lithium cobalt types, and they're constant voltage batteries but my home lead acid backup battery bank is like gold and there is no way I'm getting rid of it because I understand its value and how to preserve that value.



Battery Secrets & Battery Rejuvenation by Peter Lindemann - the definitive presentations on lead acid batteries.



Free Solar Secrets - gives the magic chart showing what the battery needs to experience in order to revert to like-new chemistry, which has been known for 100 years. For a long time, we were the only ones in the world who produced a commercially available charger that did it right.

[bistander]

Should have made a copy

You already agreed that you read the forum rules when you signed up, which were posted during registration.



Besides that, it is a private website and we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.


I don't see the point of your request because it is just common sense and common courtesy for any decent human being to not insult or demean other people because they don't like or believe what someone is saying. Anyone that needs to verify if acting indecent is against the rules is not a decent human being. You can go look at any boilerplate forum rules at almost any website and they are all pretty much the same.



It's not your disagreement with Turion's claims that is the issue, it is the manner in which you express it that is problematic.

O.K. my bad. I should have made a copy back then because my memory ain't what it used to be. You do notice that I do not resort to name calling and don't insult or demean others? In fact it is I that is commonly on the receiving end of that behavior.

Thanks anyways,

bi

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[Iamnuts]

Real world.

Aaron,
in business you've got to be practical. I need a battery that i can take
to do a task in remote place and leave it doing a job for a week, then swap it
with a fresh one.
Li-ion is a real game changer, I've got some that have been in use for years.
I've got a good charger which balances the cells to within.. 01v.
The lto looks so attractive, long life, good dod and fast charging. There's a big
drawback... the cost. Start leaving costly stuff around and it gets nicked!!
Sincerely John.

[Iamnuts]

Wow!

My story.
I must have been about 65 years old when I eventually managed to
make sense of special relativity. Wow! It sure was a real light bulb moment
for me.
That got me going, I found that there were several outstanding physisits
in the early to mid 20th. century. I began to learn a bit about quanta and
uncertainty and eventually I came across relativistic induction. The induction
explanation was probably bigger for me than SR, although of course they're
totally connected.
Perhaps as Aaron suggests, I have got mental problems, but I'm getting on
now and I'm not as mentally adept as a younger person.
I seem to remember the led thingy from way back, could have been something
to do with Pauli's exclusion. I'm sure a lot of this stuff is correct, but for tbe
likes of me it's far from intuitive.
One thing I have found is that measuing efficiency is where a huge amount
people go wrong. I've got a cheapo watch and it has worked for fourteen years
on its original button cell, probably out by a couple of minutes in all that time.
Now that is what I'd call efficient.