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**bistander** · 10-01-2019, 03:05 PM

Lenz Force?

Originally posted by Turion View Post

bi,
Once again you avoided answering a simple question. There are only 4 Forced in physics. Which one is �Lenz Force�? Do you know the answer or not? Always your goal is to obfuscate and evade.

I never said anything about "Lenz Force".

Originally posted by bistander View Post

Lorentz force, as it is commonly called, is that force between an electric charge and a magnetic field as described by Lorentz's force law. ...

This is the answer. Can't you read? You can decide which of your "4 Forced in physics" you want to stick it. Hint: it's not gravitational and it's not nuclear.

**Turion** · 10-01-2019, 03:29 PM

Your answer please?

Excuse me, which of the four forces is Lorentz Force? See, I made a mistake and I am willing to admit it and correct it. Repeating what you previously posted does not answer the question. That explanation did not include any of the FOUR specific forces which are part of our current physics model and you know it. There are only FOUR forces. Which one is it? What’s wrong bi, are you afraid to say the words? Come on, you can do it. We all know that as soon as you DO you will have proven me right which is why you are going to such incredible lengths to avoid it when you obviously know the answer. You’re doing everything you can to keep from saying the words, but we’re all still waiting.

**bistander** · 10-01-2019, 04:07 PM

Electromagnetic

Originally posted by Turion View Post

Excuse me, which of the four forces is Lorentz Force? Repeating what you previously posted does not answer the question. That explanation did not include any of the FOUR specific forces which are part of our current physics model and you know it. There are only FOUR forces. Which one is it? What�s wrong bi, are you afraid to say the words? Come on, you can do it. We all know that as soon as you DO you will have proven me right which is why you are going to such incredible lengths to avoid it when you obviously know the answer. You�re doing everything you can to keep from saying the words, but we�re all still waiting.

Originally posted by bistander View Post

Lorentz force, as it is commonly called, is that force between an electric charge and a magnetic field as described by Lorentz's force law. ...

What part of electric and magnetic do you not understand?

**Turion** · 10-01-2019, 04:22 PM

Words

Put it all together now bi. I know you can do it. What kind of Force is it? Still haven’t answered the question. How many times do I have to ask it to get a simple answer?

**bistander** · 10-01-2019, 04:31 PM

The Turion game

Originally posted by Turion View Post

Put it all together now bi. I know you can do it. What kind of Force is it? Still haven�t answered the question. How many times do I have to ask it to get a simple answer?

How many times do I have to answer? Look at the subject of my previous post.

**Turion** · 10-01-2019, 04:56 PM

Answer?

So what kind of field is it? I’m not playing games. I’m asking you to state what kind of force it is and you haven’t done that yet. You keep pointing to this or that instead of just answering the question. I will keep asking it until YOU answer the question. What kind of force is it?

**bistander** · 10-01-2019, 05:09 PM

More Turion games

Originally posted by Turion View Post

So what kind of field is it? I�m not playing games. I�m asking you to state what kind of force it is and you haven�t done that yet. You keep pointing to this or that instead of just answering the question. I will keep asking it until YOU answer the question. What kind of force is it?

What is the subject of my post of 4:07 today, #228? If that doesn't satisfy you, I don't know what you want.

**Turion** · 10-01-2019, 05:11 PM

MerLynn

I sent you a PM. I'm interested.

**Turion** · 10-01-2019, 05:15 PM

Answer

Yes you do know. I want you to tell me in clear English what the Force is that you are saying impacts the ability to add as many coils as you want to a rotor until it produces as much energy as you want. There are only FOUR possible forces. I am asking you to name it right here. Not point to it or link to where you have pointed to it. I am asking you to state what that Force is. Are you capable of that or not?
Which one of the four forces is it. No process of elimination as you have attempted to do. I want the name of the force. You can't come out and state it for the record because once you DO, you will be proven wrong and you know it. So now is the time to put up or shut up. Which of the Four possible forces is it? A one word answer is all I need.

**bistander** · 10-01-2019, 05:28 PM

Even more Turion games

Originally posted by Turion View Post

Yes you do know. I want you to tell me in clear English what the Force is that you are saying impacts the ability to add as many coils as you want to a rotor until it produces as much energy as you want. There are only FOUR possible forces. I am asking you to name it right here. Not point to it or link to where you have pointed to it. I am asking you to state what that Force is. Are you capable of that or not?
Which one of the four forces is it. No process of elimination as you have attempted to do. I want the name of the force. You can't come out and state it for the record because once you DO, you will be proven wrong and you know it. So now is the time to put up or shut up. Which of the Four possible forces is it? A one word answer is all I need.

Originally posted by bistander View Post

What is the subject of my post of 4:07 today, #228?

Answer my question. That is my answer to your question. Take it or leave it. If you want to continue your game, please use multiple choice or true/false questions.

bi

**Turion** · 10-01-2019, 05:36 PM

Finally

In other words, you are incapable of giving me a one word answer to my question even though we BOTH know what the answer is. Instead you drag us through endless posts where you avoid giving that one word answer because you KNOW that when you do you will be proven wrong. If that’s where you want to leave it, that’s absolutely fine with me.

**bistander** · 10-01-2019, 06:29 PM

Turion's game, continued

Originally posted by Turion View Post

In other words, you are incapable of giving me a one word answer to my question even though we BOTH know what the answer is. Instead you drag us through endless posts where you avoid giving that one word answer because you KNOW that when you do you will be proven wrong. If that�s where you want to leave it, that�s absolutely fine with me.

I gave you a one word answer as the subject of post #228. Why can you not see that and accept it? You won't even repeat it will you? What is the big deal? Must you manipulate everyone you interact with or just me? The answer is the subject or title line or header of post #228. If that is not what you want from me, it is just another one of your tactics to avoid a meaningful discussion. That is all you're interested in. A way out. Just explain why Lorentz force does not cause a torque opposing rotation in your generator. If you don't know what Lorentz force is, look it up. We've been dealing with it for over 120 years. Your need to classify it or rename it doesn't change the effects which Lorentz describes and everybody else calls Lorentz force.

bi

**BroMikey** · 10-01-2019, 08:09 PM

The Tesla patent does not use the exact word Lenz free, Tesla simply
stated that his bifilar and multi-filar coils would act as tho they were not
there. This lenz free term's intended use is to cause conflict.

This coil has no self induction, this new one. Sure all the other money
making coils fit into the designed factory mold fight lenz, not this one

Dave has been very helpful in getting this information, wouldn't you
say so bi

**Turion** · 10-01-2019, 08:58 PM

Tactic

If it is a tactic, why do you refuse to commit to it except through pointing to it? You won’t say it because it pins you down. That’s YOUR tactic not mine. You slip and slide around and dart out of the shadows to call other people liars and frauds, but you’re the fraud here. Afraid to commit yourself because you know it forces the discussion in a direction where you know you will lose. Just a one word answer bi. What is the Force? It isn’t Lorentz Force so please quit using that term. It shows your limited understanding of physics. A one word answer. You’ve avoided it through a dozen posts now. How long will it go on? But that’s your purpose isn’t it. To delay as long as possible so we are as far from the original issue as possible.

**NROC** · 10-01-2019, 09:32 PM

Biproduct

Bi you still make me laugh....

Dave, i dunno why you waste your time on this biproduct. Well, i do, because he's funny. He tried to tell me that there were issues with my method of measuring the input and output of a battery system lol, ive been a professional physicist and electrical engineer for over 10 years now and he still tried to make out like he knew what he was talking about.... i just sat there in shock at first because it was so dumb and then i laughed.

Come on bi just admit to everyone that your either a paid government troll or some obese guy watching porn and trying to stroke your ego on forums.

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