The bistander thread

[bistander]

I am truly sorry for you. I am doubting your professional knowledge for the second time. I have checked all this long ago and in different systems.

The simplest system is FEMM. Three screens. Maximum EMF when the magnetic rotor closes the flux into the core, while the magnetic induction in the area of the conductor (highlighted with a circle) is zero. If the rotor (magnet N42) has a transverse position, the main induction is around the magnet, and in the area of the conductor the magnetic induction is 0.09T (effectively zero). There is another position, when the rotor and stator are short-circuited, the magnetic induction in the conductor zone is 0.04T.
This is all you need to know about the principle of operation of the simplest generator with a core.

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Hi Rakarskiy,
That's great. Nice diagrams. Thanks.
To me, FEMM demonstrates that the lines do in fact cut the conductors as they change shape during rotation of the magnet. How else can a continuous loop (line) go from a short path (2nd graphic) to the full backiron path (1st graphic) without breaking and reconnecting, which doesn't happen?

But magnetic lines of force and cutting are just human constructs or imaginations to assist people to understand or visualize the process of a changing field in a structure and surrounding space and application of Faraday's Law, Ampere's circuital law and Lorentz principles.
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https://usuaris.tinet.cat/sje/femm/acgen.htm

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Added image and link.
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[Rakarskiy]

I am even more puzzled by your assessment. The lines are indeed drawn by the software, but the measure of magnetic induction is essential. For a 0.09 Tesla generator it is catastrophically small. For a generator you need a magnetic induction of 1.8-2.0 Tesla. For a garage generator 1.0 -1.6 Tesla. Really perena delusion is a very dangerous thing.

[bistander]

I am even more puzzled by your assessment. The lines are indeed drawn by the software, but the measure of magnetic induction is essential. For a 0.09 Tesla generator it is catastrophically small. For a generator you need a magnetic induction of 1.8-2.0 Tesla. For a garage generator 1.0 -1.6 Tesla. Really perena delusion is a very dangerous thing.

How does the density of lines in the backiron go from 1.3T to 0.7T to 0.09T without shrinking and crossing over the wires between that backiron and the magnet when those loops of lines are not broken yet appear as smaller closed loops through the magnet?

Perhaps you believe it is a magic trick like Holcomb's generator.

The conventional physics, theories and laws of Faraday, Ampere, Lorentz and Maxwell and engineering equations work perfectly well for wires in grooves. You are the only one who has a problem with it. Perhaps you dwell on a misconception.
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[bistander]

Here's a great one.

Note how the lines move across the slots (grooves) where the armature conductors (wires) are placed.
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Link: https://youtu.be/KJCM4lk20zs?si=X13Zhpa6W9b-6_Y9

[Rakarskiy]

I gave my answer to UFOpolitika (on his forum), he also shares your point of view regarding generation: https://overunitymachines.com/index.php?msg=2105

I took the gif episode from a 1973 educational film (An old physics teacher pointed it out to me after reading my article) «Винахід електромагнітного генератора»). I saw it in my school years in the 70s of the last century. The film is voiced in Russian, a subtitle translator is used.

Генератор переменного тока - YouTube

Oh, and one more slide for some very stubborn so-called experts.

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[Rakarskiy]

bistander, writes

Perhaps you believe it is a magic trick like Holcomb's generator.

The conventional physics, theories and laws of Faraday, Ampere, Lorentz and Maxwell and engineering equations work perfectly well for wires in grooves. You are the only one who has a problem with it. Perhaps you dwell on a misconception.
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Holcomb's generator is demonstrated OverUnity (there would be no noise at all if there was no effect OverUnity ). The U.S. Patent Office would never grant a patent for a product (technology) without making sure that it works.

US20190238011A1 (US11336134B2) - 2022-05-17 Publication of US11336134B2

By the way, there is no classification for it (H02N11/008 Alleged electric or magnetic perpetua mobilia)

(PCT/US2012/069449) US10008916B2 this Holcomb patent is ( H02K53/00 Alleged dynamo-electric perpetua mobilia)

If you recall William Alec's struggles with the US Patent Office, they granted him a patent only on the basis of a practical model that had been tested by patent office experts:

(US20150194255A1) US9620280B2 - 2017-04-11 Publication of US9620280B2 (H02N11/008 Alleged electric or magnetic perpetua mobilia)

Yeah, Holcomb's got some things wrong. That's why he probably can't solve a number of problems to scale the project. I found this out while modeling for my friend who already implements such a device. I will tell about it, for those who want to perform a similar device without errors, but in the plane of a garage craftsman (for their own use), on my channel patrion. I am not in favor of the business on electricity.

About the accepted concepts and constants in physics, I have already said that many need to be corrected for general education programs, or rather studied in more detail. All that I am stating as it turned out is a part of knowledge about electrodynamics and construction of electric machines with closed magnetic circuits. If you don't study it and don't know it, it's a sign of unprofessionalism.
What I did before I retired was risk assessment and identifying the suitability of various top managers and engineers. I know how to do that.

[Rakarskiy]

By the way, scammers always rely on something. If you remember the famous videos from this channel Magnetrone, energía libre y limpia. 25 ańos de autonomía. www.magnetrone.com

One potential buyer from these grief sellers contacted me with a request to consult him about the possible operation of what they were demonstrating. I replied that I did not know of any technology that could fit into those dimensions for a three-phase AC source of the declared power. One inverter would cost a certain fraction of the price declared by the sellers. I looked for possible patents and found this patent. By the way, it was issued and is valid until 2037 in the USA. I don’t know whether the patent and the scammers from YouTube are related, I just found something that echoed in my opinion.

US11411513B2 Self-sustained frictionless near perpetual maglev generator and method for operating (H02N11/008 Alleged electric or magnetic perpetua mobilia) Author: Ryan Neal

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And you can go to Holcomb and see everything with your own eyes, and philosophize while in illusions and fortune-telling. What he built and demonstrates already deserves respect, at least from my research side. I am not interested in his commercial side.

[bistander]

Rakarskiy,
You say "And you can go to Holcomb".
Do you know where he is? Seems no one else knows his whereabouts. Or where a functioning device is?
It (he) was a scam.
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[Rakarskiy]

Robert Holcomb | LinkedIn Go to this application and ask yourself.

[bistander]

Robert Holcomb | LinkedIn Go to this application and ask yourself.

Try it yourself. No reply. When was last confirmed sighting or communication? He took the money and ran. Like a crook does. Rumor has it to Australia. And check out Astra stock, suckered company that gave him a large sum.

https://holcombenergysystems.com/

https://m.facebook.com/holcombenergysystems/

Nothing since June/July.

He's gone.
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Where is a functioning device of his?

[bistander]

The U.S. Patent Office would never grant a patent for a product (technology) without making sure that it works.

Your next post proves this statement of yours wrong.

US11411513B2 Self-sustained frictionless near perpetual maglev generator and method for operating (H02N11/008 Alleged electric or magnetic perpetua mobilia) Author: Ryan Neal

That's worse than the Holcomb device.

About the accepted concepts and constants in physics, I have already said that many need to be corrected for general education programs, or rather studied in more detail. All that I am stating as it turned out is a part of knowledge about electrodynamics and construction of electric machines with closed magnetic circuits. If you don't study it and don't know it, it's a sign of unprofessionalism.

The subject has been studied to a much greater extent by many professionals than you have. I'll repeat myself:

You are the only one who has a problem with it. Perhaps you dwell on a misconception.

What I did before I retired was risk assessment and identifying the suitability of various top managers and engineers. I know how to do that.

Then I would think you should have realized it is best to leave the scientific, physics and engineering calculations to those qualified professionals engaged in their respective fields who rely their knowledge, experience, the scientific method, peer review and proofs.
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[Turion]

Pathetic video?
No, it's just a very SIMPLE video that proves the things I said are true. What's pathetic is that YOU could not be bothered to build something this BASIC to see if the things I have claimed work are true or false. And we both know why, don't we? Like I said, a 7th grade science experiment would show the principles work. And it DOES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90t071rVfmE

Yes, it has been years. Do you truly believe all the bugs could be worked out in a few months? Or that improvements that come to light should not be included in modified designs? Right now we STILL need to build one more unit to incorporate every single thing we have learned, but I am leaving that to the guys I have been working with. They would rather make some money off what we have learned than share everything here. When all is said and done, I WILL post a video of it running and outputting pretty much what I said it would. 300 watts in, and an output of 1800-2000 watts at 2800 RPM.

[JenkoRun]

Then I would think you should have realized it is best to leave the scientific, physics and engineering calculations to those qualified professionals engaged in their respective fields who rely their knowledge, experience, the scientific method, peer review and proofs.
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That's the same attitude that would have allowed the Inquisition to maintain the Geocentric model if it were not for Copernicus and Galileo who were outside what they considered to be "qualified professionals", if we left electrical research up to "those qualified professionals" of today we'd remain dead in the water like we have been for the last 80 years!

Peer reviewed just means "acceptable for the narrative" at this point, as if I'd go along with that I'll stick to what the pioneers of electrical engineering followed and what experiment shows, regardless of what "the professionals" say is and isn't possible. Anyone with sense should be doing the same.

[bistander]

That's the same attitude that would have allowed the Inquisition to maintain the Geocentric model if it were not for Copernicus and Galileo who were outside what they considered to be "qualified professionals", if we left electrical research up to "those qualified professionals" of today we'd remain dead in the water like we have been for the last 80 years!

Peer reviewed just means "acceptable for the narrative" at this point, as if I'd go along with that I'll stick to what the pioneers of electrical engineering followed and what experiment shows, regardless of what "the professionals" say is and isn't possible. Anyone with sense should be doing the same.

Thanks for your opinion. Perhaps I should have said "to respect" instead of "to leave". I really do encourage questioning and research by all. But I object to those who rush to teach and spread misconceptions without due diligence and proofs.

"Dead in the water" for past 80 years??? Really? Do you think teaching that Holcomb's device is valid does mankind a service?
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[bistander]

Pathetic video?
No, it's just a very SIMPLE video that proves the things I said are true. What's pathetic is that YOU could not be bothered to build something this BASIC to see if the things I have claimed work are true or false. And we both know why, don't we? Like I said, a 7th grade science experiment would show the principles work. And it DOES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90t071rVfmE

Yes, it has been years. Do you truly believe all the bugs could be worked out in a few months? Or that improvements that come to light should not be included in modified designs? Right now we STILL need to build one more unit to incorporate every single thing we have learned, but I am leaving that to the guys I have been working with. They would rather make some money off what we have learned than share everything here. When all is said and done, I WILL post a video of it running and outputting pretty much what I said it would. 300 watts in, and an output of 1800-2000 watts at 2800 RPM.

Sorry, but I don't see value in that video.
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