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  • Equivocation Fallacy

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    Equivocation Fallacy

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    • "Dead-Weight Load" - The dead load includes loads that are relatively constant over time, including the weight of ...
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_load

      "Compressible fluid", e.g. flatulence.
      "Incompressible fluid", e.g. mercury with standard moisture content at STP

      In most circumstances atmospheric pressure is closely approximated by
      the hydrostatic pressure caused by the weight of air above the measurement point.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_pressure
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure#Fluid_pressure
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydros...fluids_at_rest


      IV = the New Testament implies the Earth is round.
      DV = Quran states that Earth is flat.
      CV = Bible states that Earth is flat and under a dome.

      On the Earth of the New Testament,
      An Atmospheric Pressure Next To Vacuum Without A Barrier Separating The Two Does Exists because,
      vacuum doesn't suck and the atmosphere interacts with the "Ball" due to aether.

      Originally posted by vidbid View Post
      You just can't make up sh*t as you go, man!


      NOTE that sealed aneroid [from Ancient Greek ἀ- (a-) + νηρός (nērós, “wet, damp”)] bellows
      contain a compressible fluid calibrated to react an "incompressible" fluid column of 29.92 in Hg or about 10 m H2O @ Standard Temperature and Pressure.



      VIDBID:

      Is vertical deflection of bellows, shown above, of a barograph "measuring" a "Dead-Weight Load"?

      Is a "Dead-Weight Load" exerting a "uniformly distributed load" on the walls of the above sealed bellows filled with a fluid?




      Al
      Last edited by aljhoa; 07-13-2019, 07:00 PM. Reason: 4,329

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      • Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
        Dead-Weight Load - The dead load includes loads that are relatively constant over time, including the weight of
        That looks like an equivocation fallacy. Your using a term in one field which may or may not be used in another field, and which may or may not have the same meaning. In fact, it may have a different meaning if used in another field.

        The term "dead-weigh load" is used in structural engineering.

        Originally posted by Wikipedia
        The dead load includes loads that are relatively constant over time, including the weight of the structure itself, and immovable fixtures such as walls, plasterboard or carpet. The roof is also a dead load. Dead loads are also known as permanent or static loads. Building materials are not dead loads until constructed in permanent position.

        Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_load
        Barometers and Barographs are the purview of meteorology. Those devices measure barometric pressure. Is there any evidence for using the term "dead-weight load" in the field of meteorology?

        If you have such evidence, please provide a citation for it, and please demonstrate it in action.

        Otherwise, if you are unable to do so, it would appear that you are attempting to commit an equivocation fallacy in your argument.

        The fallacy of equivocation occurs when a key term or phrase in an argument is used in an ambiguous way, with one meaning in one portion of the argument and then another meaning in another portion of the argument. Examples: I have the right to watch "The Real World."

        Source: https://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/r...ivocation.html
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        • Dead-Weight Load Equivocation Fallacy

          Stop trying to conflate your flatulences by indiscriminately hodgepodging structural engineering terms for mechanisms, devices, concepts or ideas with meteorological terms for mechanisms, devices, concepts or ideas.

          Stop trying to create an equivocation fallacy.

          Dead loads are also known as permanent or static loads.1 The barometric pressure is not static. It varies. In fact, it varies all of the time.

          Hence, that is why we need a barometer.

          If barometric pressure was static, you wouldn't need a barometer or a barograph, would you?

          No.

          Of course, not.

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          Originally posted by Wikipedia
          The dead load includes loads that are relatively constant over time, including the weight of the structure itself, and immovable fixtures such as walls, plasterboard or carpet. The roof is also a dead load. Dead loads are also known as permanent or static loads. Building materials are not dead loads until constructed in permanent position.

          Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_load
          Last edited by vidbid; 07-14-2019, 05:50 AM. Reason: 3ZD5td5savlTYcQanPWs
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          • Necessary Antecedent

            Is there any evidence of gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on?

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            • Originally posted by vidbid View Post
              Is there any evidence of gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on?
              Scare quotes (also called shudder quotes,[1][2] sneer quotes,[3] and quibble marks) are quotation marks that a writer places around a word or
              phrase to signal that they are using it in a non-standard, ironic, or otherwise special sense.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes

              "Dead-Weight Load" - The dead load includes loads that are relatively constant over time, including the weight of ...
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_load

              "Compressible fluid", e.g. flatulence.
              "Incompressible fluid", e.g. mercury with standard moisture content at STP

              In most circumstances atmospheric pressure is closely approximated by
              the hydrostatic pressure caused by the weight of air above the measurement point.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_pressure
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure#Fluid_pressure
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydros...fluids_at_rest


              IV = the New Testament implies the Earth is round.
              DV = Quran states that Earth is flat.
              CV = Bible states that Earth is flat and under a dome.

              On the Earth of the New Testament,
              An Atmospheric Pressure Next To Vacuum Without A Barrier Separating The Two Does Exists because,
              vacuum doesn't suck and the atmosphere interacts with the "Ball" due to aether.

              Originally posted by vidbid View Post
              You just can't make up sh*t as you go, man!


              NOTE that sealed aneroid [from Ancient Greek ἀ- (a-) + νηρός (nērós, “wet, damp”)] bellows
              contain a compressible fluid calibrated to react an "incompressible" fluid column of 29.92 in Hg or about 10 m H2O @ Standard Temperature and Pressure.



              VIDBID:

              1. Is vertical deflection of bellows, shown above, of a barograph "measuring" a "Dead-Weight Load"?

              2. Is a "Dead-Weight Load" exerting a "uniformly distributed load" on the walls of the above sealed bellows filled with a fluid?


              3. The 14.7 lbs is a "dead weight" at sea level of: MERCURY in a 1x1-inch 29.92-inch long vertical tube and AIR in a 1x1 inch 30-mile long vertical tube.
              What is the internal "uniformly distributed load" acting on the six walls of this 30-mile long 1x1-inch tube if placed horizontally, while both its ends were capped in vertical position trapping 14.7 lbs of air?




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              Last edited by aljhoa; 07-14-2019, 03:15 PM. Reason: 4,399

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              • Scientific Evidence

                Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                Is there any evidence of gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on?
                Is there any evidence of gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on?

                So, far no one has presented any evidence of gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on.

                Originally posted by Wikipedia
                Scientific evidence is evidence which serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical evidence and interpretation in accordance with scientific method. Standards for scientific evidence vary according to the field of inquiry, but the strength of scientific evidence is generally based on the results of statistical analysis and the strength of scientific controls.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_evidence
                Your belief, without the scientific method, is not evidence.

                It's just an unsubstantiated claim.

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                • This WAS a good thread....

                  ....until Vidbid douched it up.

                  Where's the ignore feature?

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                  • Clarification Requested

                    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                    1. Is vertical deflection of bellows, shown above, of a "measuring" a "Dead-Weight Load"?
                    Before I can answer your question, please remove the equivocation fallacy intrinsically built-in to your question. Also, please re-phrase the question without the use or misuse of scare quotes, shudder quotes, sneer quotes, or quibble marks.

                    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                    2. Is a "Dead-Weight Load" exerting a "uniformly distributed load" on the walls of the above sealed bellows filled with a fluid?
                    Again, before I can answer your question, please remove the equivocation fallacy intrinsically built-in to your question. Also, please re-phrase the question without the use or misuse of scare quotes, shudder quotes, sneer quotes, or quibble marks.

                    Originally posted by Texas State University
                    The fallacy of equivocation occurs when a key term or phrase in an argument is used in an ambiguous way, with one meaning in one portion of the argument and then another meaning in another portion of the argument. Examples: I have the right to watch "The Real World." https://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/r...ivocation.html
                    Originally posted by Wikipedia
                    Scare quotes (also called shudder quotes,[1][2] sneer quotes,[3] and quibble marks) are quotation marks that a writer places around a word or phrase to signal that they are using it in a non-standard, ironic, or otherwise special sense.[4] Scare quotes may indicate that the author is using someone else's term, similar to preceding a phrase with the expression "so-called";[5] they may imply skepticism or disagreement, belief that the words are misused, or that the writer intends a meaning opposite to the words enclosed in quotes.[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes
                    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                    3. The 14.7 lbs is a "dead weight" at sea level of: MERCURY in a 1x1-inch 29.92-inch long vertical tube and AIR in a 1x1 inch 30-mile long vertical tube. What is the internal "uniformly distributed load" acting on the six walls of this 30-mile long 1x1-inch tube if placed horizontally, while both its ends were capped in vertical position trapping 14.7 lbs of air?
                    Do you have a particular 30-mile tall, vertical standing pipe in mind?

                    What is the name of it, and where is it located?

                    Unless you are referencing an actual and existing vertical structure that is also hinged to rotate to a horizontal position, then I believe you are committing a reification fallacy in your argument.

                    Originally posted by Wikipedia
                    Reification (also known as concretism, hypostatization, or the fallacy of misplaced concreteness) is a fallacy of ambiguity, when an abstraction (abstract belief or hypothetical construct) is treated as if it were a concrete real event or physical entity.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy)
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                    • Originally posted by Mr_Pither View Post
                      This WAS a good thread.. ..until Vidbid douched it up.
                      Actually, you just douched it up when you posted your douche comment.

                      Facepalm.

                      Originally posted by Mr_Pither View Post
                      Where's the ignore feature?


                      Yeah, that works.

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                      Bye!

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                      • Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                        So, far no one has presented any evidence of gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on.

                        "thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace"



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                        Last edited by aljhoa; 07-15-2019, 04:32 AM. Reason: 4,467

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                        • Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                          thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace
                          Likewise.

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                          • Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                            "thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace"
                            Al
                            Notice that I have quoted the words of
                            the "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last"
                            and VIDBID has removed the quotation marks,
                            so what is he wishing for?

                            Answer:
                            Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                            Likewise.
                            Al
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                            • “ ”
                              You can have these.
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                              • "On Bull**** is a 1986 essay, reprinted as a 2005 book, by philosopher Harry G. Frankfurt
                                which presents a theory of bull**** that defines the concept and analyzes the applications of bull**** in the context of communication.
                                Frankfurt determines that bull**** is speech intended to persuade without regard for truth.
                                The liar cares about the truth and attempts to hide it;
                                the bull****ter doesn't care if what they say is true or false,
                                but rather only cares whether their listener is persuaded.
                                "


                                "Alberto Brandolini, an Italian programmer, the bull**** asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[14][15]) states that:
                                The amount of energy needed to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."


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