Bedini's cap pulser

[Mario]

Thanks Dave for posting these!

regards,
Mario

[jettis]

Each battery is 4volts at 500 mAh, three batteries in series and each battery is 12 volts / 500 mAh.
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The SSG waveform across the primary coil.
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The purpose of the this particular TUV test was not to demonstrate 1:12 it was only 1:0.3. Here is a a clip that shows such. https://youtu.be/mA6IRpWBsiY?si=uOg9dRWhJnZsixsl

Frank the TUV test engineer is discussing the estimated capacity that was left in the secondary batteries after they were discharged down to 10 volts prior to the test run of the SSG machine charging the three parallel banks off of one primary battery.


Dave Wing

[Aaron]

Dave, thanks for the pics. Yes the schematics looks like the patent trifilar. But in order to get those results I suspect he wasn't just collecting the flyback, he was taking advantage of the kromrey (G-field) effect. This would mean the coil voltage (magneto) had to be 5 times the batt voltage (according to John),in order to get the "generator that doesn't slow down effect" or, as I would call it, delayed Lenz effect. This would mean ,like you said, long thin wire. A motor generator in one.

I don't think that comes into play here. The capacitor simply collects the recover and after it is charged to x voltage, it is dumped to the output battery bank.

I don't know what voltage John was charging the cap to for those particular tests, but he was pretty consistent in telling me to dump the cap at about 2 volts over the battery voltage.

The only difference between the Dual Battery Charger schematic and the patent is that the patent was basically, from memory, a 555 timer that adjusted when a scr possibly discharged the cap to a battery rather than a mechanical pulley and mechanical discharge switch.

[Mario]

Dave, could you make an estimate on RPM? Very fast or rather slow?

Do you really mean COP 0.3 ?? This doesn't make sense, why would they have hooked 3 parallel charge batts for an SG with COP 0.3, and of which John surely knew the COP of.

The COP 12 report states they had 3 parallel charge batts.

Aaron, you said the schematic is like the first one ever posted, do you know what wire size it was?

regards,
mario

[jettis]

Hi Mario,

I made it through 2 of the four videos and I can honestly say 1- 0.3 is fairly accurate. Did you watch the video clip I posted above, Fank the TUV engineer explains the purpose of this test? The TUV test ran for 3 hours and 4 minutes, I’ll post a video clip of John saying much the same later on.

1) This was one test out of possibly many.
2) This test was to show how the machine operated and charged the secondary battery bank and the principles behind it.
3) If you look at the pics I posted with the time stamp on them you can easily see the TUV test we are discussing does not even come close to 1:12 (or even 1:4) in the time period of 45 minutes for 3 batteries to reach 14 volts.
4) In one hour the secondary batteries climbed to 12.563 volts and the primary went from 13.03 to 12.27 volts again this does not come even close the 1:12 graph.

I believe John is not lying about the 1:12 but so far there is no evidence the machine shown in these videos is the one that produced 1:12.

I will post more as time permits.

The RPM could have been around a thousand, that is my best guess.

Dave Wing

[Mario]

Hi Dave,

I appreciate your pics and comments, thanks.

Maybe the one that gave 1:12 was the true motor generator shown in the beginning of EFV 2, else I really wouldn't know how to get 1:12 with a simple flyback capturing SG, especially with tiny batts.

other question, how do you insert pics within text?

regards,
Mario

[Aaron]

These are the 3 schematics he posted in Keeleynet years ago after Jeane Manning had her article on the Schoolgirl motor published.

The Dual Battery System (I was calling Dual Battery Charger) is 100% identical in principle to the SG John was using.



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[jettis]

John Bedini on the TUV testing, it appears the testing occurred over the course of at least two days.The next three clips are from disc #1

https://youtu.be/IMGq-o7WF3Q?si=j6DAnrKx0W1Kz3aK

Dave Wing

[jettis]

Jay Edington gives his testimony about the Bedini’s and the TUV testing.


https://youtu.be/wxiBOgp42Jk?si=Qe901oaKD3LcFEwO

Dave Wing

[jettis]

TUV test engineer appears to be quite happy after a day of testing.

https://youtu.be/9c6CH2TuaiU?si=kdHOSVFKJfvusl00

Dave Wing

[Mario]

Hi Aaron and Dave,

thanks for the schematics and the video snips. very interesting. At he end of the second video they say that in 2019 they got a hold of Haensel and got the complete reports, and that they're included at the end of the DVD's. Is that so? It would be interesting to see what machine gave what COP.

regards,
Mario

[jettis]

Hi Aaron and Dave,

thanks for the schematics and the video snips. very interesting. At he end of the second video they say that in 2019 they got a hold of Haensel and got the complete reports, and that they're included at the end of the DVD's. Is that so? It would be interesting to see what machine gave what COP.

regards,
Mario

‘TUV did not give a written report all the provided was these.
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It is very hard to read the purchase order.

I watched all the videos, although I sped up through some parts of the last discharge / charge tests.

The testing that was carried out that day and what is found on the disc # 42 (four disc series) is as follows.

1) Test 1 charge 3 batteries from 1, the test ran for a little over 3 hours, until the primary was depleted and the 3 battery secondary bank was charged to under 13 volts. I posted the screen shots of the test and showed the test just starting, then a half hour in and then an hour in you can see the rate of charge to discharge in the images I posted earlier. The discharging of the secondary batteries prior to the test was not highly controlled so the amp hours removed prior to the test was estimated. And the primary battery was not verified for actual capacity and or state of charge prior to the testing either and may or may not have been fully charged from the factory.

2) Test 2 swapped the batteries, moved the primary to the backend and put one out of the three from the backend to the front and removed the other two out of the circuit and off to the side. The depleted primary battery (discharged by the machine at 100mA at the beginning of the test run to 40mA as the machine slowed down in rpm as voltage dropped to 8 volts) and the lone secondary which was charged under 13 volts before the swap.

3) Test 3 they swapped the same batteries back and forth until the machine stopped rotating, as was done in step 2. They did this until both batteries would not longer run the machine as both batteries were depleted.

4) Frank took the other two secondary charged batteries back with him and discharged by Frank at the TUV test facility. Those are the discharge tests in the images I posted above.

5) The same machine was used throughout the 4 disc series #42 tests, the one as seen in the video and screen shots, no other machine was shown in operation.

So all in all very disappointing as one assumed prior to ordering these videos I also assumed I would see 1:12 charging too. However as I stated earlier and as you can see in John’s photo album there were at least two days of testing as John wore different clothing. The footage of the second day was not part of disc 42 series, it was purposely left out for reasons unknown. Maybe to protect John’s discovery of how to produce 1:12? I do not know it is all speculation now.

Dave Wing

[Mario]

Hi Dave,

thanks for the time you've put into investigating all of this. I think your speculation may be right. I think John always just wanted to show the recovery of the motor, which, depending on the setup may be under unity or even a bit over 1. That's what he wanted to teach with the SG. The get more juice you have to take it from the mechanical as he always said. The RPG guys are doing just that and driving a gen.
To get the real juice you need the G-field setup as a gen, be it all in one or separate. If the 1:12 test is true I'm sure they've used the motor/G-field combination as per first patent, which is the machine In the pic I posted above. But I guess he didn't wanna attract too much attention to this, and that's why it was left out from the disc-42 series.
At this point this is speculation from my part too, Aaron might confirm this or not.

regards,
Mario

[jettis]

Hi Dave,

thanks for the time you've put into investigating all of this. I think your speculation may be right. I think John always just wanted to show the recovery of the motor, which, depending on the setup may be under unity or even a bit over 1. That's what he wanted to teach with the SG. The get more juice you have to take it from the mechanical as he always said. The RPG guys are doing just that and driving a gen.
To get the real juice you need the G-field setup as a gen, be it all in one or separate. If the 1:12 test is true I'm sure they've used the motor/G-field combination as per first patent, which is the machine In the pic I posted above. But I guess he didn't wanna attract too much attention to this, and that's why it was left out from the disc-42 series.
At this point this is speculation from my part too, Aaron might confirm this or not.

regards,
Mario

Hey Mario,
When you listen to Jay speak he mentions a 25 gallon drum where John cut off the bottom and installed a shaft and bearings, John made a large cheap rotor, the size of those drums are roughly 20 inches x 3 feet, a machine this size needs large magnets large coils large gauge wire with many turns, a machine of this size could easily charge 1:12 or even run for 6 months as stated by Jay.

John did say if you build it big you might see something. To me that is the key build them big, large magnets produce large fields, large coils produce large flyback and large amounts of torque. Frank also mentions he wanted to test the big machine as he spread his arms wide. What was the big machine? Was it the drum motor? Could be or it could be another more refined large motor?

Dave Wing

[jettis]

Here is a large motor generator hidden in plain sight… From Energy From The Vacuum Part 2.
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Dave Wing