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  • #46
    Originally posted by Mario View Post
    Hi Dave,

    thanks for the time you've put into investigating all of this. I think your speculation may be right. I think John always just wanted to show the recovery of the motor, which, depending on the setup may be under unity or even a bit over 1. That's what he wanted to teach with the SG. The get more juice you have to take it from the mechanical as he always said. The RPG guys are doing just that and driving a gen.
    To get the real juice you need the G-field setup as a gen, be it all in one or separate. If the 1:12 test is true I'm sure they've used the motor/G-field combination as per first patent, which is the machine In the pic I posted above. But I guess he didn't wanna attract too much attention to this, and that's why it was left out from the disc-42 series.
    At this point this is speculation from my part too, Aaron might confirm this or not.

    regards,
    Mario
    I think it is important to understand that conventional engineers have no clue about what to do with the coil collapse, in school they are taught it is a nuisance and inconsequential. At one point we all needed to be educated with the basic concept of the workings of the machine and our learning continues.

    Frank was very happy indeed with the 30% recovery to the secondary banks. Why was he happy? Possibly because his professional education limited him to a conventional understanding and thus to him it may have been impossible to have a 12 volt battery charge another 12 volt battery and have 30% real charge with mechanical losses such as the fan, bearings (motor and driven pulley), belt and commutator friction was a big deal to Frank. It truly was amazing to him, but not so amazing to us today!

    Dave Wing
    Last edited by jettis; 01-27-2024, 03:19 PM.

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    • #47
      Aaron, what do you think about all this, are my assumptions above correct? Did you have a chance to see the small motor generator? If so there is only one thing I would like to know, were the bars plain iron or laminations?

      regards,
      Mario

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Mario View Post
        Aaron, what do you think about all this, are my assumptions above correct? Did you have a chance to see the small motor generator? If so there is only one thing I would like to know, were the bars plain iron or laminations?

        regards,
        Mario
        I remember that but it has nothing to do with any of the TUV tests.
        Sincerely,
        Aaron Murakami

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        • #49
          Bedini TUV test… posted by Davy Oneness.

          https://youtu.be/Oq4vL-lMOB0?si=FsbymVQuWcLAscUF

          Dave Wing
          Last edited by jettis; 04-21-2024, 01:33 AM.

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          • #50
            That's great, thanks Dave and thanks to Davy!

            Mario

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            • #51
              Well after going through the vids I've come to the conclusion that it's just disappointing. In the interview vid in the end they state that the complete TUV reports would be in the dvd material. Well it's not, just a couple battery discharge test charts that don't mean anything about the only one test shown with only one motor. Dave already reported about it.
              What about the others motors tested?
              What about the COP 1:12 ratio TUV report that's been on John's site for ages, why is that test not shown in the vids??

              Very disappointing to say the least..!

              Mario

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Mario View Post
                Well after going through the vids I've come to the conclusion that it's just disappointing. In the interview vid in the end they state that the complete TUV reports would be in the dvd material. Well it's not, just a couple battery discharge test charts that don't mean anything about the only one test shown with only one motor. Dave already reported about it.
                What about the others motors tested?
                What about the COP 1:12 ratio TUV report that's been on John's site for ages, why is that test not shown in the vids??

                Very disappointing to say the least..!

                Mario
                The problem was that TUV refused to follow through with a report, and Frank(TUV engineer) told John over the phone that his boss wouldn't let him write a report. At the time the Bedini's didn't even get the charts at end of video, Tony had to contact TUV and got everything that they had on record that you see in the video. The video of the tests IS the report, after all Frank would have just summed up everything in the video with his report.
                This doesn't mean TUV is part of some grand conspiracy. The results were just not acceptable to them as being possible, and I'm sure Franks boss just assumed there was some kind of trickery going on even if Frank couldn't detect it. I don't think TUV was interested in doing a public report(which would have been a big deal) just to be shown that they were fools for being tricked, which could hurt company reputation. Also, I noticed not everything was in the video footage, like the faraday cage, or Frank having them move the table, among some other minor things, So the video doesn't seem like a complete picture of the testing, and maybe TUV didn't file all the test info because they didn't take the whole thing seriously. I think that is one way that could be explained about the old website data.

                Kind Regards,
                Oneness

                P,S, I put some of my EFTV video collection on youtube since the videos are no longer available for sale now that John Bedini and Tom Bearden are gone (Hope Tony and Pat are ok!), also people are starting to sell bedini/ bearden stuff for outrageous amounts. Wanted to keep the information out there for those who need it, and maybe hopefully inspire more people to pick up on this work and carry on! Aaron, please give me a heads up and will take them down if Tony is ever to make the DVD available again, just didn't want to see the series disappear like the stuff from Tesla book company in 1980's!
                ".......... all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration ? that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves." ~Bill Hicks~ 1961-1994

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                • #53
                  Hi Davy,

                  thanks for posting all the material, I agree with what you wrote.

                  It's just too bad we'll never know what motor gave the 1:12 result with those tiny batteries....

                  regards,
                  Mario

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