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  • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
    the shaft hole is probably less critical, though will be done.
    You are going to be surprised to see how important it is to do that.

    The point made by a pencil lead is as wide as 5 thousandth and it is
    so easy to be off 10-20 thousands. What I like to do is to do the rough
    cut circle then after I am sure the dot in the center is close I drill it.

    After that I drill a bigger hole to put my shaft and hub into. Then into the
    drill press to check for roundness WITH a pencil or scribe. Even drawing
    with a compass after the hole the size of the shaft is drilled requires
    a spacer to do the drawing on the outer edge.

    I instead use a small ruler size board drilling a shaft hole in one end and
    a 1/16" hole on the other end where I want to make my mark. This is
    much more accurate than a compass. It is a way to strike a circular
    line. I use 3 holes to make circles about 1/8" apart going inward
    so I have something to visualize. Its a homemade compass that rotates
    right off the shaft. Then strike a line right on the edge (drill tiny holes)
    where you THINK the circle is perfect. Boing boing it's always off a tiny.

    You are welcome, my expertise (on a good day) is mechanical schemes

    3000rpm will be no trouble at all. Smooth a silk. The magnet holes are
    not as critical due to the weight of each being so close to the next (I hope)

    Unless it is out by 1/8" then I have been known to move the center hole
    and shim

    https://etc.usf.edu/clipart/77300/77340/77340_circle_crve_md.gif
    Last edited by BroMikey; 05-25-2019, 06:58 AM.

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    • Hi bromikey, thanks for the helpful information.

      Though as I said previously, I used a cad print out and taped that to the wood.

      Then used a sharp metal punch at the crosshair marks that are printed, through the paper and into the wood as my pre-pilot hole.

      Then used fostner drill bits for all the holes, as they have a nice central point on those bits.

      It should be very close, if any issues, I'm sure they can be worked out as you are saying.
      peace love light

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      • Sounds good to me, never tried that one so let me know.

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        • Hi all, finished securing all the magnet spacers in the rotor.
          peace love light

          Edit: Also, I chucked it in a drill and secured a metal file to the work bench. Then spun it up on the file and was able to get the rotor rounded fairly well, seems very true with regard to rotor edge.

          Last edited by SkyWatcher; 05-27-2019, 09:17 PM.

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          • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
            Hi all, finished securing all the magnet spacers in the rotor.
            peace love light

            I just saw a guy on youtube show a rotor made of this material
            explode and shatter 3-4 magnets on one end came off due to these
            light weight press boards weaknesses.

            I can't remember the letters designated for his board and brand.
            Your magnets are much lighter than his was. Glad you got a shield.

            The guy I saw in the video did not have a shield so I never heard what
            the magnets actually hit you know like a lamp or a window. No
            children allowed.

            Standing a magnet up on it's edge like a silver dollar to put glue on that
            tiny surface area is not as good as laying a drum on it's side to put glue
            on the huge amount of area. Same pull force just more gluing area and
            not just gluing are but also the area where force thru centrifugal that
            will hold the magnet in place.

            You need not reply. This is only a repeat of an old post pointing out what
            no one else has stated because up until now only coin geometry magnets
            have been suggested since they only cost 20 cents a piece while the drum
            magnets are way more expensive coming in at $1.99





            Last edited by BroMikey; 05-27-2019, 09:39 PM.

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            • Hi all, thanks for sharing bromikey.
              Hi turion, thanks for the video link, yes I've seen that before, good video.

              I've built the multistrand coil maker setup and made a first strand of 130 feet of 24awg. magnet wire.
              Will then use that strand to wind each further, consecutive strand together.

              Not sure my coil bobbin will fit 24 strands, will see how it goes, can always make the bobbin wider.
              peace love light

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              • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
                Hi all, thanks for sharing bromikey.
                Hi turion, thanks for the video link, yes I've seen that before, good video.

                I've built the multistrand coil maker setup and made a first strand of 130 feet of 24awg. magnet wire.
                Will then use that strand to wind each further, consecutive strand together.

                Not sure my coil bobbin will fit 24 strands, will see how it goes, can always make the bobbin wider.
                peace love light

                good information of your advances, a question that the wire strands are not wrapped at the same time in parallel, and then connected in series, can comment on those who know to guide me.
                thanks and congratulations, well-deserved effort for your contributions

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                • Originally posted by Turion

                  342/5000
                  the videos of
                  MrAnguswangus
                  They had a whole series of consecutive projects and tests, they are interesting as it went with different configurations,
                  but has time that has not been updated
                  what happened
                  someone knows
                  or have a new channel
                  I thank MrAnguswangus for his videos, which guided us to better understand the generation of energy

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                  • Hi all, Hi alexelectric, all strands will be wound parallel to each other, I'm just using a winding method of, one at a time, which is a slow way for the moment.

                    Meaning, I place the measured out 125 feet spool of wire on top of other spool, then wind the top and bottom together and we now have a 2 strand coil.

                    Then, place that 2 strand spool on top and wind top and bottom together, onto another empty spool and we now have a 3 strand coil spool.
                    peace love light

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                    • ok

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                      • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
                        Hi all

                        Not sure my coil bobbin will fit 24 strands,
                        ANSWER

                        http://flyer.thenetteam.net/3batterygen/spoolsize1.jpg

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                        • Hi all, Hi bromikey, thanks for the helpful information.

                          Been working out the bugs of my coil maker, it's going good though, just takes more time this way.
                          I may just go to 12 strands at the 125 feet length per strand.

                          Then once I get everything together and running, we can see how it goes and if it needs more strands, I can always add them with this coil making method I'm using.

                          peace love light

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                          • I have not got that far to understand that the same number of feet
                            comes out to a higher ohm measurement but maybe you don't mean
                            that.

                            So 24 strands conneted in series does not have the same ohms as 3 strands
                            connected in series of the same number of feet?
                            Last edited by BroMikey; 05-30-2019, 05:53 AM.

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                            • if it matters, when you look at the math and what matters the most,
                              as far as coils,
                              it is the numbers of turns that count,
                              not number of feet, not the resistance
                              resistance matters a bit, but only in how many amps you push through it.
                              so, to sum up, turns and amps matter, and how close the turns are to each other matters third

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                              • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
                                Hi all, Hi bromikey, thanks for the helpful information.

                                Been working out the bugs of my coil maker, it's going good though, just takes more time this way.
                                I may just go to 12 strands at the 125 feet length per strand.

                                Then once I get everything together and running, we can see how it goes and if it needs more strands, I can always add them with this coil making method I'm using.

                                peace love light

                                I do that all the time, get going on a build then stop to work on tools
                                So your last coil was 2000 ft and 12 X 125 ft = 1500? maybe not enough
                                but remember what Turion is always talking 2800 rpm and 3 channels
                                of 1000 feet each. Okay? So if you are targeting a slower speed and the
                                bobbin just won't hold 3000 ft probably should not go below the number
                                of feet the first one you made has and still it is 1 channel. That's fine I say
                                because your rotor is little so the speed of the magnets are slower.

                                You are improving your skills all of the way around. I don't see why you
                                shouldn't to able to reach the null point easier with the geometry that
                                gets tighter tolerances. Like I said 3/16' gap did not do much even with
                                strong magnets.

                                Didn't you say 51 strands 40 feet long? And you reached the null? Right?

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