Multifilar Generator Coil - Lenz delay Experiments

[BroMikey]

Hey Sky glad to hear you are still pluggin away at builds. It is in our
blood to make stuff work, the rest will play golf instead which is fine.

It's the way we are, always making new things work. 1 idea is past on
from decade to decade.

[Turion]

More info

Got smacked in the face today by something that should have been obvious to me, but wasn’t until today. Some of you may know it or be aware of it like I was but fail to apply it in your builds as I did.

A couple times a year there is a group in a neighboring community that gets together to talk about all things green including the possibility of FREE ENERGY. Ralph Ring has been their guest speaker the last couple times. Some of you will recognize that name. And I have been invited to speak as well since a few folks there have followed along on the forum over the years.

Anyway, I was preparing a little demo with a rotor and a single coil wound to speed up under. I have a pretty good idea of how much voltage my power supply needs to be set at to assure my rotor turns at high enough rpm to demonstrate speed up. I wanted to be accurate so I could show them that at a specific voltage it would NOT speed up under load, but with just .1 more volts it WILL speed up under load, so I was trying to be very accurate. I was using a 300 watt AC bulb as my load and thought it would be interesting to use a small AC motor I have. To my surprise, the lower voltage was able to speed up the run motor when the AC motor was used as load. In fact, I was able to LOWER the voltage quite a bit. (Which of course lowered the RPM) It dawned on me that when the motor coil of the AC motor was added to the circuit it increased the total capacitance of the circuit, which is also increasing the capacitance of the main coil. Hope that makes sense and you understand how that can effect your build.

[BroMikey]

Thane Heins showed this years ago. He used AC bench grinders to drive
his genheads. First he would show the AC motor running his genhead
using a brass link or coupler. Next he changed to steel.

It would not speed up with the brass coupler. After replacing it with
steel as we all watched it sped up then.

He talked about flux or something never really got it. However he said
that the field from the AC motor strengthened the AC RegenX coils or
what we call lenz free Tesla coils. patent 5 million something.

Glad you are going to give a demo to people who are thirsty for extra
energy producing generators. Infinity is the right word for the COP of
these machines.

[BroMikey]

I think this is 8yrs ago? Thane deleted his video but someone
else uploaded it again. People delete their video's and something
can be learned from each of them.

Here is what you want to see.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogLeKTlLy5E[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

Here is part 3 and my mistake, this is not 8 yrs ago it is 11 yrs
ago i was looking at this.

Anyway here it is with the AC induction motor tight to the genny

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vX8Cxkrpqs[/VIDEO]

[MerLynn]

Here's one for you....

Radiant Energy as Tesla described it,
Neutral Center Energy as Keely described it,
Still Magnetic Light as Walter Russell described it.
Cold Fusion Electricity as Ponds and Fishyman described it.
Equilibrium as Joe describes it
Zero Point Energy as the Ill informed describe it

Does Not have any Lenz law problems. Nor is it meterable...
But you know by its effects that you have it.
It comes with many different uses and humans seem to only want HEAT from it... To save their lazy arses from work.

Keshe says it ( I dont like his terminology at all) that Structures of Light constitutes the ONLY building block in the Universe. Tesla says it that Everything is the Light. Its not a flow of electrons creating Lenz laws...

Energy is a 2 way flow and we only play with the Hot side. Can Fire Cracker Scientists be that dumb?

Here's but one use for Radiant Energy....
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Aqua-Chi...E/174030365268

Here is another (using the password wizzzard777)
https://www.magneticwaterscience.com/?page_id=46

Here's how to make Food out of sea water using Radiant Zero point, Neutral Center Energy
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ocean-Wh...s/173841889962

[BroMikey]

Here's one for you....

Radiant Energy as Tesla described it,
Neutral Center Energy as Keely described it,
Still Magnetic Light as Walter Russell described it.
Cold Fusion Electricity as Ponds and Fishyman described it.
Equilibrium as Joe describes it
Zero Point Energy as the Ill informed describe it

Does Not have any Lenz law problems. Nor is it meterable...
But you know by its effects that you have it.
It comes with many different uses and humans seem to only want HEAT from it... To save their lazy arses from work.

Keshe says it ( I dont like his terminology at all) that Structures of Light constitutes the ONLY building block in the Universe. Tesla says it that Everything is the Light. Its not a flow of electrons creating Lenz laws...

Energy is a 2 way flow and we only play with the Hot side. Can Fire Cracker Scientists be that dumb?

Here's but one use for Radiant Energy....
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Aqua-Chi...E/174030365268

Here is another (using the password wizzzard777)
https://www.magneticwaterscience.com/?page_id=46

Here's how to make Food out of sea water using Radiant Zero point, Neutral Center Energy
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ocean-Wh...s/173841889962

Thx MerLynn

Hey Turion

The independent lab told thane it was the motor cap speeding it up. LOL

[MerLynn]

Here is part 3 and my mistake, this is not 8 yrs ago it is 11 yrs
ago i was looking at this.

Anyway here it is with the AC induction motor tight to the genny

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vX8Cxkrpqs[/VIDEO]

That is an exceptional Boat Anchor you built there. Keely said you cannot make a Neutral Center by Mechanical means. Its done by Creating a Magnetic Field WITHIN a Magnetic Field. Diodes stop the 2 way flow so it cannot ever achieve Radiant or unlimited over unity.

The Fisher and Paykel or Samsung washer machine motor is ALL you need besides an ability to think outside the box.

[BroMikey]

Hey Turion
your new setup is not a fair test as a comparison to your machines.
You'll fool just about everyone there tho.

[Turion]

Fool?

Not trying to “fool” anyone. Just describing what I saw and what I believe happened. Take it or leave it.

By the way, what I was talking about in my post has NOTHING to do with the video you showed of Thane’s stuff. He was showing that when the brass coupler is replaced with a magnetically conducting iron or steel coupler, there is an effect caused by the (now) coupled magnetic fields. With the brass coupler, no speed up under load. With the iron or steel coupler, speed up under load.

What I was showing is that when a speed up under load GENERATOR coil is physically connected to the coil in the motor it’s trying to run, the additional wire in the motor is ADDED to the length of the wire in the generator coil, increasing its capacitance and allowing it to speed up at a lower RPM, thus lower voltage. In BOTH cases in my example there is speed up under load. It has NOTHING to do with coupling magnetic fields and EVERYTHING to do with physically increasing the capacitance of the coil by ADDING MORE WIRE that just happens to be in the load. It should indicate to almost anyone how important the LOAD is that is connected to the generator coil. Not what Thane was showing at all.

[bistander]

Inductor

Not trying to “fool” anyone. Just describing what I saw and what I believe happened. Take it or leave it.

...It dawned on me that when the motor coil of the AC motor was added to the circuit it increased the total capacitance of the circuit, which is also increasing the capacitance of the main coil...

Hi Turion,

Any increase in capacitance due to the motor as a load would be inconsequential compared to the inductance. Ever notice how circuit components called inductors are actual coils of wire, often using a ferrous core. Motor coils make excellent inductors. And motor loads for generators (alternators) are responsible for lagging power factors.

Some AC motors come equipped with capacitors attached for starting and sometimes running. The capacitors are typically mounted on the outside of the motor case. You don't specify the motor type.

I am just relating a few facts. I don't want to discuss it further. Take or leave it.

Regards,

bi

[Turion]

Motor

bi,
This was a small AC motor from a really ancient bathroom ceiling fan I took out of the house I am remodeling. The house was built in the 60’s, but don't know if the fan was original. It sure looks like it. No capacitors present that I can see, and I had it apart to clean it up as it was full of crap. I just can’t stand to throw a motor away.

I understand that could can be used as inductors. I have used them that way in many circuits I have built. I’m not really concerned about that. The whole point of my post was just to show that the load connected to the generator coil can have a dramatic effect on if and at what RPM the coil will cause the drive motor to speed up under load. That’s it. Just an observation. Thanks for the input though. That was useful information and I can appreciate posts like that.

[Quantum_well]

Be amazed!

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[BroMikey]

Not trying to “fool” anyone. Just describing what I saw and what I believe happened. Take it or leave it.

By the way, what I was talking about in my post has NOTHING to do with the video you showed of Thane’s stuff. He was showing that when the brass coupler is replaced with a magnetically conducting iron or steel coupler, there is an effect caused by the (now) coupled magnetic fields. With the brass coupler, no speed up under load. With the iron or steel coupler, speed up under load.

What I was showing is that when a speed up under load GENERATOR coil is physically connected to the coil in the motor it’s trying to run, the additional wire in the motor is ADDED to the length of the wire in the generator coil, increasing its capacitance and allowing it to speed up at a lower RPM, thus lower voltage. In BOTH cases in my example there is speed up under load. It has NOTHING to do with coupling magnetic fields and EVERYTHING to do with physically increasing the capacitance of the coil by ADDING MORE WIRE that just happens to be in the load. It should indicate to almost anyone how important the LOAD is that is connected to the generator coil. Not what Thane was showing at all.

Okay my mistake, we have gone thru this 6 years now and it seems I did it
again, made a mistake about the setup you are running. I still am not
sure. Are you saying the induction motor you replaced of the DC motor
is now connected in series with the gen winding?

I thought you meant you ran an AC motor in place of a DC motor and
not putting gen coils in series with the induction winding? That is not
something I would have tried.

It was my understanding you switched motors. During Thanes video is
the equivalent of and AC motor vs a DC motor, probably don't follow me
but that's okay.

You see the DC motor and the AC motor respond differently to extra
flux and you know that. I know you are not trying to fool everyone but
I had to give BI a bone to chew on.

[BroMikey]

Not trying to “fool” anyone.

GENERATOR coil is physically connected to the coil in the motor it’s trying to run, the additional wire in the motor is ADDED to the length of the wire in the generator coil, increasing its capacitance and allowing it to speed up at a lower RPM, thus lower voltage.

This is the part I don't understand. What does this mean? Connected in series?
You mean electrically connected?