Multifilar Generator Coil - Lenz delay Experiments

[SkyWatcher]

Hi bromikey, do you mean to try the device talked about in that thread?

Ok, since you are online at the moment, here is a pic of the setup.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

Hi bromikey, do you mean to try the device talked about in that thread?

Ok, since you are online at the moment, here is a pic of the setup.
peace love light

Goodness thats a bunch of wires. Yeah I think follow Turion with the
solid state you know what do they call it? That U shaped metal with the
locking bar across and the number of coil wound and connected the said
way. Well that seems to be one way. I don't know what you are getting
in the picture but it should be able to get a high high voltage so let it
go up to as high as your wire can handle about 600v then string a group
of bulbs in series.

Thats what i think

[SkyWatcher]

Hi bromikey, thanks for the reply, been busy cleaning the house of stuff we don't need.

I hooked up another 120 vac, 6 watt led bulb to the separate, 26 strand secondary coil/core, the bulb lights and the input decreases from .26 amps, down to .23 amps.

So, with the ability of the solid state oscillator coil/core to easily give higher frequencies, we can get the multifilar delay lenz coil to work, without the need for mechanical contraptions.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

High frequencies spikes dancing on your
LED bulb gives the illusion that extra energy may be
present in your circuit delays or power lag can fool you similar to
panning for fools gold. To verify extra energy is available a meter
must be placed on the input as well as the output.

Say for instance you put in .25amps or 250ma and the output gives
you the same output then you have a 100 percent conversion efficiency
and a COP of 1:1

Just saying that the light took down the input by .03 amps or 30ma
when powering up means little in terms of COP.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi bromikey, thanks for the reply.
Yes, this oscillator circuit is probably not best choice, a 555 timer pulsing the drive coil would be better.
Though the point of these tests, is not to show a COP greater than 1.
Just like turions setup, it would likely need many coil/cores to do so, that is, if we actually have a delayed lenz happening, with respect to the drive coil.
And that is what these tests are about.

Was testing the setup again and this was a better test.
Kept the drive coil/core up close, in contact with the secondary coil/core, for the duration of the test.
Whereas previously I started the oscillator and then brought it into contact with the secondary coil/core.
This time also used identical led bulbs on flyback and output of secondary coil.
The input without secondary coil led bulb load is .26 amps, when secondary load is connected, the bulb is very close to the same brightness as the flyback bulb and input drops to .25 amps.
Will continue experimenting.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

Oh so you have 2 bulb, I did not know the circuit. First bulb 260ma
then 30ma went to second bulb. I am working in the dark as to how
exactly the circuit is laid out. But hey just say it with no proof
Well that is the voice of the skeptic. I don't know what you know so
tis near impossible for me to comment correctly without more details

Happy testing.

After all it is a Tesla coil right? Ya know a bi-filar and many more and
what did Tesla get from his bifilar coil? Humm..?? What?

Tesla got HIGH VOLTAGE 50v per turn or something outlandishly high
compared to a regular coil. keep ringing the bell at HV connecting
5 bulbs in series. Then we will have an answer. Lenz delay? For what?
Delayed what for what? Why would you need a delay for a static field.

I am not sure I understand the reasons you test your transformer expecting
a delay then what a delay does. Or how a delay might affect the circuit

[SkyWatcher]

Hi bromikey, thanks for the reply.
Sorry it's not clear, when I finish a few more tests I'll post the circuit drawing as it is.
As far as I'm aware, it is not a static field, it is an expanding and contracting magnetic field.
So, it is similar to the mechanical version.
By the time the drive coil shuts off, (with proper coil capacitance and frequency in secondary multifilar coil), then the secondary coil releases it's magnentic field and powers the load, without interfering or opposing the pulse input of the drive coil.
This then causes no increase in amperage and may even cause a decrease of each input pulse, very much like the mechanical version.
At least that's my thinking on this, you're of course free to disagree.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

Hi bromikey,........
I'll post the circuit drawing as it is.
As far as I'm aware, it is not a static field,..........
This then causes no increase in amperage and may even cause a
decrease of each input pulse,......... you're of course free to disagree.

Disagree with what? I don't know the diagram, you have left me in
the dark. Each pulse expands? Not static? Operates like a transformer
correct? Okay it is a pulsed transformer got it. Humm...Not sure I know
what you know or shall i say perceive your invention yet but I will.

As we all know the Tesla bifilar coil is meant to make HV and your coil
is no different than a pancake style winding. This was pointed out in the
patents. In the patent high voltages are produced and we have all heard
the formula's how energy is squared at HV.

So pulsing and delaying seems to have it's effects like with the serps or
the MIT and so on where AC at 60hz is not solely the only energy input.

Very interesting work, keep me posted on any results.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi bromikey, thanks for the reply, looked into the serps a little, not much information to find, though it sounds similar, maybe.

Decided to make another core, using the bailing wire, similar to the ed leedskalnin U shaped core.
This way, the efficiency will be higher and more tests can be carried out.

Here it is at the moment, still working on it.
peace love light

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, I tested the u-core and could not get much current output from the secondary multistrand coil.
So, decided to straighten out the u-core and place the drive coil and secondary coil, directly next to each other on that core.
It works much better, the identical led bulb load, that is connected across the secondary coil, is lighted to the same brightness as the led bulb that is connected to the flyback diode, off the drive coil.

When the secondary coil is loaded, depending on the tuning of the potentiometer, the input current either stays the same, or lowers a little when loaded.
Though it never seems to increase when loaded, which is interesting.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

Hi all, I tested the u-core and could not get much current output

In order to get a good magnetic lock you must cut off the core ends
so they are flat with a die grinder. Maybe if you do that it will work
better.

https://i.postimg.cc/ty8rs4Yn/New-U-shaped-core-for-solid-state-lenz-delay-transformer.jpg

[SkyWatcher]

Hi bromikey, thanks for the reply.
I did that previously and the flux transfer, even with a 1/4" thick piece of steel as the keeper, it still was not good enough to light the led bulb on the secondary coil.

Though with the core straightened and the coils right inline with each other, the led bulb is equal to the flyback led bulb.
Previously, when placing the coils with their own cores in each coil and in front of each other, the output was almost as good, but not quite equal.
I imagine with another multistrand coil, on the other side of the drive coil, the output would be even better, since the other side of the drive coil is not being used entirely.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

Where did you get the idea that the "U" shaped core material should
be welding rods bent around? Is this the instructions for the built?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi bromikey, thanks for replying.
Apparently we're having communication problems, I'm not following anyone's instructions.
I'm simply using the multifilar coil idea and making experiments, to see if the same effects shown in the mechanical version, can be done in the solid state, that is all.

So far, I'm seeing interesting results.
Because normally in a solid state transformer, (pulsed or alternating) if we induce current into a secondary coil, it always increases the input current.
Normally, it doesn't stay the same or go lower.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

Hi bromikey, thanks for replying.
Apparently we're having communication problems,..........

So far, I'm seeing interesting results.
Because normally in a solid state transformer, (pulsed or alternating) if we induce current into a secondary coil, it always increases the input current.
Normally, it doesn't stay the same or go lower.
peace love light

Oh Okay I see what you are saying now. Yes that is true about bifilar
coils sometime. When I tried it it was only 2 strands and it was the
bitoroid stuff where is had and extra path.

If you remember this picture? I was running way low ac volts like 10v
in off of one of my variacs. With the right load using tiny bulbs and or
high wattage ohmite resistors I was getting more out than in. But it was
on such a small scale that I stopped for awhile.

The core material is state of the art flybacks ganged up side by side.
The small coil was my drive coil and other two despite one's irregular
shape are identical in length, 2 strand. those 2 big bifilars had to be
connected to each other just right, one way doesn't work.


http://flyer.thenetteam.net/1BiTT3.jpg