Davey's Water Heater

[elias]

Hello,

A simple device that the inventor claims that has a COP of around 20.
It simply consists of two bell shaped bowls within each other not touching. Alternating current of 50Hz or any other frequency is applied across the two bowls, while the bowls are in water. The water heats up so fast and quickly reaches to boiling point.

The trick as it is claimed to tune the bowl so that 50Hz or any other frequency applied is the resonant frequency of the system. The tuning is done by adjusting the distance of the two bell shaped metallic bowls from each other.

This is quite interesting if it works as claimed. The full document is attached.

I wonder what will happen if we pulse the bowls? Will it heat the water too or make Hydrogen?
Maybe I'll experiment with it later to see what's its capabilities.

Good Luck
Elias

[Peter Lindemann]

Awesome!!!!

Hello,

A simple device that the inventor claims that has a COP of around 20.
It simply consists of two bell shaped bowls within each other not touching. Alternating current of 50Hz or any other frequency is applied across the two bowls, while the bowls are in water. The water heats up so fast and quickly reaches to boiling point.

The trick as it is claimed to tune the bowl so that 50Hz or any other frequency applied is the resonant frequency of the system. The tuning is done by adjusting the distance of the two bell shaped metallic bowls from each other.

This is quite interesting if it works as claimed. The full document is attached.

I wonder what will happen if we pulse the bowls? Will it heat the water too or make Hydrogen?
Maybe I'll experiment with it later to see what's its capabilities.

Good Luck
Elias

Elias,

This Davey Resonant Heater looks awesome. I had never seen this before. Thank you for starting this thread!!!

I encourage someone to look into this.

Peter

[Redmeanie]

Very Interesting.....

Let us know if you build one and get it to work!

The only thing that makes it suspicious to me is the last paragraph and then the list of people you are supposed to give money to if you successfully build and market this device.....

Other than that it looks very promising, just a little complicated to tune!

[elias]

Elias,

This Davey Resonant Heater looks awesome. I had never seen this before. Thank you for starting this thread!!!

I encourage someone to look into this.

Peter

Peter,

I constructed a simple Davey heater by using two metallic bowls and it works!! But I don't know if it has COP > 1. It boiled two liters of water pretty fast. I am looking for a way to tune it to get the most out of it.

As you have extensive experience in this area can you recommend an easy and affordable way to measure the efficiency of heaters?

I'll post some pictures and videos later.
Thanks
Elias

[Peter Lindemann]

Awesome!!!

Peter,

I constructed a simple Davey heater by using two metallic bowls and it works!! But I don't know if it has COP > 1. It boiled two liters of water pretty fast. I am looking for a way to tune it to get the most out of it.

As you have extensive experience in this area can you recommend an easy and affordable way to measure the efficiency of heaters?

I'll post some pictures and videos later.
Thanks
Elias

Elias,

The only way to accurately quantify the COP is by putting the whole thing in a Calorimeter. However, to get a "ballpark" idea to see if its worth all the trouble, the simplest way to go is to weigh the water you put in the machine and measure its temperature. Obviously, two liters of water weighs 2kg (4.4lbs.). Measure the temperature of the water before you start. Stir the water for about 30 seconds before you take the measurement to make sure the temperature is uniform throughout the sample.

1 KCal = the amount of heat required to raise 1 kg of water by 1 degree C. This is also equivalent to 4184 Joules (watt-seconds).

So, what does this all mean. Well, it means that if you put 418.4 watts of electricity into your 2 liters of water for 20 seconds, it should raise its temperature by ONE DEGREE CELSIUS. It sounds like you might be doing a little better than this, but this is the benchmark you must get over to have a COP>1. If you start with 2 liters of water, measure your electrical input in watts, measure the time you heat the water in seconds, and your temperature before and after in degrees C, you should be able to calculate a "ballpark" estimate of the COP.

Peter

[Jetijs]

Elias, can you post some pictures?

[rhozzi]

amatuer needs help..

I downloaded all the paperwork for the Davey's water heater and have a few questions.
It mentions elastic pipe...I 've heard of plastic pipe, rubber hose and metal pipes but where do you buy elastic pipe?
Is a person suppose to wire it as you would a lamp to be able to plug it into an outlet? (I hope)
Can a person use stainless steel mixing bowls or copper bowls and tune them to 50hz? I would like to build one to heat a bathtub full of water, so, would it just mean I would leave the heater in longer for that amount of water or build a bigger heater?
The instructions do not say how long the pipe is suppose to be. I imagine that depends on the size of the heater a person wants to build???
To not get shocked or burned what kind of protection should a person use on their hands while holding the heater? My kids and grandkids would not appreciate their grandma kicking the bucket for being an amateur scientist and not knowing what she is getting into. I can wire a lamp with an extention cord and hope that the heater is as easy.
Any knowledgable help is most appreciated. Rhozzi

[rhozzi]

Another question...

Do the bowls have to be tuned to 50hz each time they are used to heat water?

[elias]

RESONANCE is a key to free energy

I downloaded all the paperwork for the Davey's water heater and have a few questions.
It mentions elastic pipe...I 've heard of plastic pipe, rubber hose and metal pipes but where do you buy elastic pipe?
Is a person suppose to wire it as you would a lamp to be able to plug it into an outlet? (I hope)
Can a person use stainless steel mixing bowls or copper bowls and tune them to 50hz? I would like to build one to heat a bathtub full of water, so, would it just mean I would leave the heater in longer for that amount of water or build a bigger heater?
The instructions do not say how long the pipe is suppose to be. I imagine that depends on the size of the heater a person wants to build???
To not get shocked or burned what kind of protection should a person use on their hands while holding the heater? My kids and grandkids would not appreciate their grandma kicking the bucket for being an amateur scientist and not knowing what she is getting into. I can wire a lamp with an extention cord and hope that the heater is as easy.
Any knowledgable help is most appreciated. Rhozzi

Rhozzi,

I am not very experienced in this area (I am a Computer Engineer) and this document and this thread is meant to be a start for experimentation with this device. So don't expect to hear professional advice from me in this area!

Well, what I can tell you is that you can go study what RESONANCE is? and how it is formed in the world around us. I can describe resonance as this:
The frequency at which applying a natural force through a natural medium to a natural element makes oscillations of the element add to the applied force is called the RESONANCE FREQUENCY.

For resonance you can see these links:
Resonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Physics of Resonance

To understand how this heater works and to maximize the heat output of it we must understand what resonance is and how it is formed. It does not matter what materials we use for constructing the heater, but it does matter how we can build and tune it to make it resonate at a particular frequency of 50Hz, 60Hz of else.

I think that tuning the device will be much easier with a device that generates input power at a particular frequency. So by adjusting the frequency one can understand how this device resonates.

The document describes two physical factors for making it resonate:
1- The thickness of the bowls.
2- The distance between them.

So don't worry about the elastic pipe.

Another thing I noticed is that the distance between the two bowls must not be small, because it decreases the impedance and makes it draw more current.

As I have understood from my research in the free energy field, RESONANCE plays an important role for taping the zero point energy of nature.

Hope you'd be able to build one, The heater heats because water becomes partly a resistor in the circuit and starts heating up.
I am working on it sometimes and I am going to build a power supply to adjust the frequency to learn how to tune it and when this resonance occurs in this heater. I will post pictures with some test data when I really get by calculations COP > 1.

With Love
Elias

[elias]

The childs swing is a perfect example

Hi
I remembered a perfect example of resonance in our real life: The child's Swing.

The swing has a natural frequency at which it oscillates. This frequency is formed by the length of the rope and the acceleration of gravity(g) (so much like a pendulum). So we just use the correct impulse at the right time to make the swing go faster and faster each time. This is what makes us use very small amount of energy for making the child swing faster. We never push the child when he is coming towards us, but when it is "starting" to move away. This is the resonance frequency of the swing.

So Pulsing or applying a sine wave force to a natural oscillating element with its resonant frequency is the most wise thing to do!! When we aren't we are just wasting energy by pushing and pulling to shape the natural world around us and making things difficult, instead of applying an impulse at the right time and being one with it.

Bedini's Battery chargers seem to work like this too, but I have never understood exactly how he found the resonant frequency of the batteries to pulse them at the right moment. I only remembered somewhere reading about this fact. He never told us clearly, but I think that what he meant by pulsing the battery at the right time and tuning the chargers, was this. It would be nice if someone could explain how he found the resonance frequency of the batteries.

Elias

[rhozzi]

pictures of finished Davey heater.....

This is sooo cool. LOA in action! I found a website with pictures of someone who had put together the heater. It is in a different country and language but the pictures are outstanding. I could not print out the pictures but I video taped them so I could put a heater together correctly. Then it's a matter of finding a way to tape a cd of the 50hz frequency to consistantly make the heater work the way it was intended. Here is the website....
Telekinetic Heater
If that doesn't take you there, just type in The telekinetic heater and you should find it.
PS Also, Their electric outlets are different than ours. It would be great to see pictures of the heater in action. Though I cannot see anyone holding something metal connected to 120 outlet in water. There has to be a safe way to do it without getting fried.

[rhozzi]

afterthought...

Is there a possibility that what is actually causing the water to boil so fast when using the heater is the actual electricity flowing through the heater device from an electrical outlet? In otherwords, like lightning hitting water in a swimming pool. Instead of the electricity going through a hot water heater, it's going directly into the container (Elias's 2 liter bottle) and the direct power is causing the boiling, with or without the 50hz tuning. I've heard that many people have been killed from 120 outlet because of the power hitting their body. So, that much power coming through metal would heat the water regardless of the 50hz tuning. Unless I'm missing something.

[elias]

Is there a possibility that what is actually causing the water to boil so fast when using the heater is the actual electricity flowing through the heater device from an electrical outlet? In otherwords, like lightning hitting water in a swimming pool. Instead of the electricity going through a hot water heater, it's going directly into the container (Elias's 2 liter bottle) and the direct power is causing the boiling, with or without the 50hz tuning. I've heard that many people have been killed from 120 outlet because of the power hitting their body. So, that much power coming through metal would heat the water regardless of the 50hz tuning. Unless I'm missing something.

Nice pictures Rhozzi!
Yes as I pointed out in my previous post, not tuning it WILL heat water too but with less efficiency. Tuning it to resonance will increase the COP of the system.
I am going to make some modifications to my heater and test it more thoroughly in the coming days.

Elias

[gabriolaman]

Hi
I remembered a perfect example of resonance in our real life: The child's Swing.

The swing has a natural frequency at which it oscillates. This frequency is formed by the length of the rope and the acceleration of gravity(g) (so much like a pendulum). So we just use the correct impulse at the right time to make the swing go faster and faster each time. This is what makes us use very small amount of energy for making the child swing faster. We never push the child when he is coming towards us, but when it is "starting" to move away. This is the resonance frequency of the swing.

So Pulsing or applying a sine wave force to a natural oscillating element with its resonant frequency is the most wise thing to do!! When we aren't we are just wasting energy by pushing and pulling to shape the natural world around us and making things difficult, instead of applying an impulse at the right time and being one with it.

Bedini's Battery chargers seem to work like this too, but I have never understood exactly how he found the resonant frequency of the batteries to pulse them at the right moment. I only remembered somewhere reading about this fact. He never told us clearly, but I think that what he meant by pulsing the battery at the right time and tuning the chargers, was this. It would be nice if someone could explain how he found the resonance frequency of the batteries.

Elias

i belive the the way bedinis circut is designed, the energizer can self oscillates to what ever the battery wants for its resonant frrequency i noticed some batts seem to make the energizer faster then others i may be wrong as im newer to bedini,s works but i got the idea from the pendelum he made

[Sephiroth]

won't this cause electrolysis as well?