Renewable Energy-Magnetic Power-Amplified Electricity

[Schpankme]

Jet, I am all for the creation of an efficient alternator! I think we should start a thread and compile all of the info we can find on stator and coil design + core material.

I'm in total agreement, as the Muller Dynamo type design can be configured in any size; only caveat use Even number of Magnets, to Odd number of Coils.

Ren when you going to start our New Thread:

Muller Dynamo - Discuss, Design, Build, Validate

- Schpankme

[thedude]

Hi Jetijs. Thanks for doing some investigating on this device. It is a definate intrigue.

The electron flow in this DC circuit is negative to positive and so the negative lead is permanently connected to the coil/s.

Would you take this a saying that we should use a negative DC flow (such as that created via a radiant oscillator) to actually drive the commutative pulsing of the 4 bifilar coils.

I also took note of how they mention that the coils remain cool. I plan to test if neg DC can even be used in such a manner. Perhaps some here might know more on this.

I like the idea of another core material and will be researching this as well. I hope to contribute to this discussion in the near future with some of my own findings.

Thanks.

[baroutologos]

My experience shows that it is possible to get the energy out from a coil and not create any drag on the rotor. I tested this when I was working on the self runner setup. The recovery coil was about 3000 turns (I think) of gauge 21 wire. It had a certain capacitance, so when those magnets from SSG rotor passed by, it charged the coil. The secret is to pulse-discharge the coil at exact right moment, this way you can get up to 2000V AC or DC of the recovery coil and pulse it directly into the capacitor or battery without any drag. Maybe they used a similar approach. Also When I put a capacitor parallel to the recovery coil, a noticeable drag appeared. Maybe that is why they switched form capacitors to the batteries?
I also would like to hear what Peter has to say about this

My experience is the same Jetjis.

I had an passive coil (0.3mm wire 340 Ohms) over the SSG rotor that does not create any drag either. Its energy potential is quite low though. I measure 80 mA AC current when shorted and 8 mA current passing via an 10Kohm resistor. (It creates some 0.6 watt)

When passed via a step down transformer can light a very small bulb (0.3watts)

You would argue that's insignifficant but I would say its a proof of concept.
Just consider the following. My SSG (60cm rotor 18 magnets) maintains its speed (around 300 rmp) with 200 mA (precision measured input) @ 15 volts. its like 3 watt.

Then with the passive coil shorted or under load, NO MATTER how long mounted on rotor DOES NOT slow it down. So consider the 0.6 watts as a plus.

With my little mind, i can also see the possibilities that open.

ps: I think the machine discussed closely resembles bedini's feg with the only difference, in FEG there is a disnstiction between motor coils and generator (passive coils)

Regards,
Baroutologos

[Michelinho]

Recovering part of the input energy.

Hi everyone,

One way of recovering part of the input energy is to place the output coils inside the drive coils as we are planning to do in the motor/generator my friend and I are building. You can see the construction details in the thread:

http://http://www.energeticforum.com...ead.php?t=4161

When your electronic circuit pulse the drive coils, it induce in the output coils as the magnets also induce in the same coils at the same time. We measured twice the voltage and twice the amp in rough measurements on our prototype built. To achieve a COP>1 you need a good electronic pulsing circuit; pulse length varies from start to cruise rpm. When it achieve its set rpm, the circuit should only pulse to maintain that rpm by decreasing the pulse length to a minimum and use the flywheel effect in an efficient way.

We will soon know if our motor/generator can produce more than it uses.

Take care all,

Michel

[timorth]

to move the cores...

Jetijs,

That 2000v in the self-runner setup which I intend to build later with my Nd magnets are extracted from the magnetic "wind" around the wheel I suppose. Because it is a different phenomenon. It is not the Lenz law, because you pulse the coil away from the magnets, somewhere between. Thus I conclude that the 2000 volt spikes are caused by the magnetic wind around your wheel, and has little to do with the Lenz law, which is the main cause for dragging. These spikes get produced when the rotor is up to speed, no? BTW, what's the RPM of your rotor when you see the 2000v spikes?

I also have noticed how to get energy out of coils too without dragging the rotor. If the coil you built didn't have any Iron, It will hardly drag the rotor while charging a capacitor up to a voltage, and if you move the Iron near the wheel while the capacitor is charging up, then you'll notice almost no drag on the rotor, and you have charged your capacitor which you can dump it somewhere. The trick is to design a system which moves the cores of the coils back and forth as it turns. A some kind of one-way spring may do it. The Iron is attached to the one-way spring and as the magnet passes it attracts it a little bit, step by step, until it reaches a certain point near the rotor which the spring can be released automatically, and everything starts over again. Think about it.

Elias

Circular cam or swash plate?

[ashtweth]

Guys going to see Lutec to film and measure at the end of the year or start of next, (i live near them) have to finish the cancer courses and raw food stuff

Cancer is gonna hit us all soon

Ash