The secret to extracting mechanical energy out of SSG

[gmeat]

any links?

Hi Jetijs,


Just out of curiosity what does the film look like when you put 2 magnets north poles together do they expand the north field when looking at the film and what happens with the south fields?.I'm just a bit curious more than anything.


-Gary

[Jetijs]

will make a picture tomorrow

[gmeat]

will make a picture tomorrow

Hey Jetijs,


Sounds good,Thnx for the input.On a side note I've been thinking about your motor and how to enhance the design.What's your opinion if we were to make the END of your rotor and also the End of stator and make it sort of like a Tongue and Groove kind of design .Thx again


-Gary

[Aaron]

magnet drawing

Hi Jetijs,

I haven't found the pics I was looking for. In this folder:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/M...tor/files/DMR/
There is a bloch wall pic that looks like a knock off of one of the pics John drew. Anyway, it gives an idea of the ones John drew...certainly not the same thing.

A great pic from John is here:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Monopolemotor/files/
Get the 240b.jpg pic. Again, not what I'm looking for but that is a good insight into how John sees the SG's coil/magnet interactions.

I might have to just ask John.

[Jetijs]

Thank you Aaron, this is exactly how I imagined the field looks like.
It is a shame I did not know this when I built my Perendev motor.

Sounds good,Thnx for the input.On a side note I've been thinking about your motor and how to enhance the design.What's your opinion if we were to make the END of your rotor and also the End of stator and make it sort of like a Tongue and Groove kind of design

gmeat, I did not quite understand what you mean

[theremart]

RE: Magnetic field

I got the book by Howard Johnson. It shows the fields as they did them with the scanner they converted to map magnetic fields.

I have another idea of how to map them. what if we were to map them by force, as guaze meter? As we are looking for how magnets will react at any given point would that also not be a thing we could map with a bed scanner and
a small scale at different points?

Just a thought.

[gmeat]

gmeat, I did not quite understand what you mean [/quote]


Hi Jetijs,


Dang it, I wish I had my dad's CAD design capabilities as I know I have a couple good ideas.Ah,Sorry,I'm using the wrong terminology,This should get my point across.

Finger joint - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What I meant to say was a box joint so as to give you more surface area for the magnetic field to travel through.I came up with this based on looking at your 1st Lindemann motor you built and after further thinking about this it turns out that I'm gonna build a rather unique variation using this concept which I'm going to take a thick piece of flatstock and drill a hole for the shaft and then mount it in my mini-lathe and shape out this box joint on both sides of the metal plate and then have 1 or 2 plates on the outside of the motor as my stator another words have the stator on the sides of the motor that holds the shaft in place.I'm beginning to like this KISS design concept .Any thoughts or suggestions

p.s. if you guys dont here from me soon could someone call an ambulance to come dislodge a piece of metal out of me .


-Gary

[Jetijs]

Gary,
if I understood you right, you mean something like this:
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/SlotRotor/2.jpg
Right?
If yes, then it would be soooo much easier just to make the stator and rotor longer for more surface area, that machining the stator and rotor like this
As for the photos you requested, I will now post them in the Perendev motor thread.

[gmeat]

Gary,
if I understood you right, you mean something like this:
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/SlotRotor/2.jpg
Right?
If yes, then it would be soooo much easier just to make the stator and rotor longer for more surface area, that machining the stator and rotor like this
As for the photos you requested, I will now post them in the Perendev motor thread.

Hi Jetijs,


Yes that is the 1st thought I had but perhaps having the stators on the side of the rotor where the axle is would be better.Man!,Wow,How do you pop out a design so quick Jetijs,Your Amazing.Thx for taking the time to make that .


-Gary

[Jetijs]

Actually that is not my design, I just fished it out from the electric motor secrets topic, where Steven posted it a while ago

[vzon17]

Magnetic field pattern

Hi,
the film shows the magnetic field of a magnet that is put under the film. The magnet shape and poles are just as marked on the photo. You can see that there is no lines that come out from one pole and go right to other pole, like iron fillings would show. Instead the force/flux (whatever that is) is coming out from the poles and going to the middle point of the magnet. You can get such a film here:
Viewer*Film*&*Filings...

Yes that is true. Iron filings are not good to map a field taht actual true magnetic field is mapped like this diagram. this is an excellent book on magnetism as the authors spent over 30 years doing experiments with magnets much of it in relation to living organisms, but they did figuer alot of things out obut magnets that you dont read other places much.

[gmeat]

Actually that is not my design, I just fished it out from the electric motor secrets topic, where Steven posted it a while ago

Hi Jetijs,


OK, Looks like I just rehashed an old idea.Sorry about that lol.


-Gary

[Aaron]

north south point to notice

If you notice in some of John's drawings, you see both north and south exiting the north and you see both north and souths exiting south...like alternating layers.

[patmac]

Possibly magnets have be cube form... Your configuration seems to Bedini's magnet motor, but anyone has built one successfully....

[ren]

something you might find interesting Elias.

YouTube - magnet motor part 1