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    Hi Peter,

    I would like to have your feedback on some questions i have regarding Tesla's one wire system and ozone patent. In my setup a high inductance coil dumps its spikes through a tank circuit (low inductance coil and cap). The transformer is a cone shaped Tesla coil wich I did according to the 1/4 wavelenght theory. Everything works great, I'm getting a few thousend volts at 1,3 Mhz. Neons light up without touching anything. What I'm trying to do now is gathering all possible energy from this field (the coil is hissing and it actually makes ozone) collecting it with as many caps as possible to charge batteries at the end. The diodes+caps (avramenko style) work great from one wire, but eventhough I'm reading my way through many Tesla patents and the colorado notes I'm still confused about some things.
    I always thought these systems were all about unidirectional DC spikes but the output are actually damped ringing sinewaves. This of course can't be otherwise since the HF is created with the tank circuit wich bounces energy back and forth. But it also happens if I use a spark gap. So, the output will always be damped sine waves, do I see this correctly?

    The other thing is the ground and capacity on secondary issue. In the ozone patent the "hidden" tank circuit is the secondary with the plates acting as a cap. In the one wire patent there are just loads on one wire. Do I have to add a cap to the secondary to make it resonant with the primary, or maybe between ground and the bottom of secondary? Would this allow me to add more loads (caps) to the single wire?
    Also I know Tesla used all kinds of frequencies for different purposes, is there a preferred freq for the application I'm trying to accomplish? I imagine the higher the better as the nodes get closer togheter thus more loads can be connected..

    best regards,
    Mario
    Last edited by Mario; 02-22-2008, 01:25 PM.

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    Originally posted by Mario View Post
    Hi Peter,

    I would like to have your feedback on some questions i have regarding Tesla's one wire system and ozone patent. In my setup a high inductance coil dumps its spikes through a tank circuit (low inductance coil and cap). The transformer is a cone shaped Tesla coil wich I did according to the 1/4 wavelenght theory. Everything works great, I'm getting a few thousend volts at 1,3 Mhz. Neons light up without touching anything. What I'm trying to do now is gathering all possible energy from this field (the coil is hissing and it actually makes ozone) collecting it with as many caps as possible to charge batteries at the end. The diodes+caps (avramenko style) work great from one wire, but eventhough I'm reading my way through many Tesla patents and the colorado notes I'm still confused about some things.
    I always thought these systems were all about unidirectional DC spikes but the output are actually damped ringing sinewaves. This of course can't be otherwise since the HF is created with the tank circuit wich bounces energy back and forth. But it also happens if I use a spark gap. So, the output will always be damped sine waves, do I see this correctly?

    The other thing is the ground and capacity on secondary issue. In the ozone patent the "hidden" tank circuit is the secondary with the plates acting as a cap. In the one wire patent there are just loads on one wire. Do I have to add a cap to the secondary to make it resonant with the primary, or maybe between ground and the bottom of secondary? Would this allow me to add more loads (caps) to the single wire?
    Also I know Tesla used all kinds of frequencies for different purposes, is there a preferred freq for the application I'm trying to accomplish? I imagine the higher the better as the nodes get closer togheter thus more loads can be connected..

    best regards,
    Mario
    Mario,

    Great work!!! Yes, you are right. Your system should produce damped sine waves. The "hissing" at the top of the coil indicates you have LOTS of Radiant Pressure in the system. The fact that neon lights light up without touching anything is also an excellent indicator. My recommendation is to try to tap the Radiant Energy from the unit, rather than any direct connection power take-off. Get a fluorescent light and connect one end to ground (earth ground) and the other end to a plate of copper. It should light up near the unit without damping its resonant oscillations. If it does, see how many other fluorescent bulbs you can light up this way. My guess is that you can light up quite a few!

    Trying to collect this energy in capacitors to charge batteries isn't going to work very well, in my opinion. Tesla NEVER shows Radiant Energy charging batteries. He only shows it lighting light bulbs and running motors!

    Ultimately, you want to install a metal ball at the top of the coil that has a corresponding capacitance to the oscillations in the system. Tesla would then dip the ball in Bee's Wax to suppress all visible spark emissions from the ball. This maximized the Radiant Energy emission from the system.

    I also recommend you take a look at Tesla's Longitudinal Electricity video where Eric Dollard, Tom Brown and I show a system like this in operation in 1987.

    Here's the link: Tesla longitudinal electricity

    You can still buy a better copy of this film directly from Borderlands if you want to study it in detail.

    Keep up the great work.

    Peter
    Peter Lindemann, D.Sc.

    Open System Thermodynamics Perpetual Motion Reality Electric Motor Secrets
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    • #3
      Thanks Peter,

      I'll try the copper plate method, I thought the direct method wouldn't be a problem since Tesla connected all the loads directly? JB just gave a hint about the avramenko diode method on the one wire system and this is what kind of confirmed that I was going in the right direction. Going straight to the battery kills it as it sucks out all the electrons, but having caps transform the energy and then dump them to the batt I thought would be a good solution.
      Do you think having every load with its own tuned coil to receive the energy would be the same as the copper plate method or is that even better?
      About voltage and frequency...would you agree that for both the higher the better?

      regards,
      Mario

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      • #4
        Mario I have been fascinated by the simplicity and implications of the ozone patent, when a condenser is used instead of the plates. It is a little over my head at the moment unfortunately, but I am glad to see that others are able to grasp it and are experimenting.

        Although I cannot offer you any suggestions because of above reasons, I would like to point out another thread I have been following regarding the ozone patent. It may be that you are far beyond what is discussed in it, but there are a few indivduals posting in it that are very knowledgeable. Users "All Canadian" and "Erfinder" (who recently posted in Elec. motor Secrets thread) seem to have an excellent grasp of the principles. Thread is here: The Tesla Project

        I hope it is of some help, even if only to put you in touch with others.

        Please keep us informed of your progress! Good luck!
        "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ren View Post
          Mario I have been fascinated by the simplicity and implications of the ozone patent, when a condenser is used instead of the plates. It is a little over my head at the moment unfortunately, but I am glad to see that others are able to grasp it and are experimenting.

          Although I cannot offer you any suggestions because of above reasons, I would like to point out another thread I have been following regarding the ozone patent. It may be that you are far beyond what is discussed in it, but there are a few indivduals posting in it that are very knowledgeable. Users "All Canadian" and "Erfinder" (who recently posted in Elec. motor Secrets thread) seem to have an excellent grasp of the principles. Thread is here: The Tesla Project

          I hope it is of some help, even if only to put you in touch with others.

          Please keep us informed of your progress! Good luck!
          Hi Ren, thanks for the link! I'll have a look.

          regards,
          Mario

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          • #6
            Hi Mario,
            sound like you did a great job. Can you post some pictures of your setup and maybe a circuit? I would love to see that.
            Thank you and keep up the great job you are doing

            Jetijs
            It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
              Hi Mario,
              sound like you did a great job. Can you post some pictures of your setup and maybe a circuit? I would love to see that.
              Thank you and keep up the great job you are doing

              Jetijs
              Hi Jetijs, I'm sorry, at the moment I'm not able to post pictures (my camera is broken), my circuit is like in the ozone patent, I think you would learn a lot more reading Tesla's own words rather than seeing my circuit:

              APPARATUS FOR PRODUCING OZONE - Google Patents

              I don't know at what level you're at, so, if you have difficulty to understand it I'll be glad to help you out.

              regards,
              Mario

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              • #8
                Jet check out the link I posted above, there are schematics there.


                Oh and Mario is right, read the patent, it is very insightful. I think it would be a great group project for this forum.
                Last edited by ren; 02-24-2008, 05:55 AM.
                "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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