Veljko Milkovic' - 2 Stage Oscillator Violates 3rd Law of Motion

[kcarring]

minding the radial motion

A variant of my visual could be a shared radial pivot point allowing alignment of stator to rotor along the natural path of the bulkheads travel with multiple coils and magnets experiencing the same 1 phase AC (down, and up as provided by return spring). As for the two rotor/stator plates not attracting (decreasing their distance) from one another due to the attractive forces, the plates (housing, 2 sides) could extend past the place at which "the work is being done" and have slots, following the radius. In those slots would be retaining bolts, physically larger in diameter while central to the plates thus stopping a "sandwiching" effect attempted by attractive forces.

[kcarring]

Another quick note:

My experience with concrete tells me that this device if very well drafted can be constructed mainly by wood form and concrete. This will offer a large mass, affordably. If created with rebar inside the concrete and a large proportion of plasticizer the mix with offer mass and strength with resilience to shock as to not fracture the bulkhead over time on impact cycles.

[Aaron]

Bedini Milkovic hybrid

Got a msg sent to me on this:
OS:Bedini-Powered Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator - PESWiki

Pretty cool - Sterling says it may be the first with Bedini, but there have
actually been several.

I thought of putting a SG coil under the pendulum but Mart actually posted
a vid with that didn't he?

There is multiple work in the system done from the coil input.

Why not just calculate the mechanical work compared to what the
SG is drawing?

The hammer is lifting up not perfectly up but in a slight rotation but
in such a small distance, a straight dead lift calculation for the weight of
the hammer to that distance should give a good ballpark. Then add
pendulum work per hammer lift and compare to SG draw.

Is it an impossible thing to calculate to get a general idea of the
comparison?

[FRC]

Looks good

Might be able to make a self runner out of it. That's a good way to get torque
out of an SSG.

FRC

[FRC]

Video

That video made me see things I had not seen before. Instead of the Bedini
magnet/coil, maybe opposing magnets, like in the OMEGA motor.

FRC

[Gdez]

secondary oscillations and eccentric flywheel

Here is are some interesting videos, similar to matt Jones bouncer concept using Milkovics eccentric flywheel principle.

YouTube - purelyprimitives's Channel

mechanical resonance pt 1 & 2

[theremart]

RE: Bedini coil..

Got a msg sent to me on this:
OS:Bedini-Powered Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator - PESWiki

Pretty cool - Sterling says it may be the first with Bedini, but there have
actually been several.

I thought of putting a SG coil under the pendulum but Mart actually posted
a vid with that didn't he?

There is multiple work in the system done from the coil input.

Why not just calculate the mechanical work compared to what the
SG is drawing?

The hammer is lifting up not perfectly up but in a slight rotation but
in such a small distance, a straight dead lift calculation for the weight of
the hammer to that distance should give a good ballpark. Then add
pendulum work per hammer lift and compare to SG draw.

Is it an impossible thing to calculate to get a general idea of the
comparison?

YouTube - Video Veljko Milkovic' - 2 Stage Oscillator with a Bedini pendulum.

Yes had made this some time ago.

I like the design he has, easy to replicate.

[142857]

Bedini/Milkovic

YouTube - Bedini Milkovic two stage oscillator.AVI

Just wanted to show this one, see what anybody might think of it? opinions? questions, advice(to or from).....

just throwing it out there.

I personally think it's just a fancy lever.....a lever is not OU.

I've got a few ideas in mind to try on the generation end but not that optimistic really.

[Matthew Jones]

Thats a really nice setup. Personal I hang the coil from the same side of lever as the pendulum is swinging. Maybe suspended from the center so it in a fixed position from the pendulum all the time. This would allow you to lower the power on the motor to the absolute minimum. But thats just preference.
What you need to do now is add weight to the other end. You need enough weight so the pendulum oscillations can pick it up and drop it. Then you half that amount if you do some additional work. But you'll have to play with that.
A hand cranked flashlight or some could be driven.
A crankshaft could be used on the output. Or I am sure you have seen it a wheel a chain and overrun gear. Like bicycle.

Then see of you can generate and back feed.

Nice work.
Matt

[Gdez]

Bouncer

Hey Matt, hows the bouncer comin along?

[ltseung888]

Theory behind the Milkovic 2-stage penulum

YouTube - Video Veljko Milkovic' - 2 Stage Oscillator with a Bedini pendulum.

Yes had made this some time ago.

I like the design he has, easy to replicate.

Please read and comment on the following:
Lead-out/Bring-in Energy - The locked teaching thread

The slides 3-10 explain how gravitational energy can be brought-in from a pulse-pushed pendulum. Milkovic's pendulum does not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

[142857]

I agree, I don't see it violating any laws either.
There are equal and opposite reactions all over it.

[Matthew Jones]

Hey Matt, hows the bouncer comin along?

Its coming along. We have one part to finish and then we'll get ready to show it.

Just gotta get some time to finish it. But work keeps coming in so I gotta take it while Its there.

Matt

[Hoxan]

YouTube - Bedini Milkovic two stage oscillator.AVI

Just wanted to show this one, see what anybody might think of it? opinions? questions, advice(to or from).....

just throwing it out there.

I personally think it's just a fancy lever.....a lever is not OU.

I've got a few ideas in mind to try on the generation end but not that optimistic really.

Hello, this is very nice example where milkovic effect is achieved regardless of chaotic movement of lever. You can see it on 1.10 mins on video when you hear how lever moves down when pendulum is in highest positions.
When you compare it to
YouTube - Bedini-Powered Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator where oscillations are not synchronized and milkovic effect is not present. (Lever working side MUST be in its minimum at BOTH pendulum maximums, not only one...right). People usually do this wrong and do not achieve overunity effect.

Whats the electronics schematic driving the pendulum? Is pendulum a magnet ?

[142857]

the pendulum is a 1" neo, driven by a regular ssg at 4.5 volts. Coil is air core and a little less than half the size of a standard bedini.

Just a note:

I added a rubberband and a one inch neo hanging from the 'work' end and bounced it up and down inside another coil....like a shake up flashlight. and made about 10-15 erratic milliamps and some fractions of voltage...but what was really interesting to me was that, without the coil, while my work end was just bouncing it's weight freely.....the rubberband helped the oscillations and everything became steady after just a moment, then, you can clearly see that the new pendulum on the work end is obviously not doing as much "work" as the actual pendulum.