Efie Circuit Design

[Gforce598]

Re: Efie

In regards to this device check this link out and let me know what you think.
It looks to me to be the identical design of the doc from Panacea University Doc. I have a friend that is trying to have some electronics wiz build some for us and supposidly only like 20 in parts but I do like this design much better than the eagle style ones due to the fact of having the enclosure and the adjustability of the multi position switch up front. One adjusted no fiddleing with screw drivers while driving to get it tuned in completely.
eBay Motors: GAS FUEL SAVER! HHO HYDROGEN SINGLE O2 SENSOR ENHANCER (item 320241653682 end time Apr-28-08 10:00:02 PDT)
Later, Gforce598
P.S. let me know how much for one of your EFIE's as well

[Redmeanie]

In regards to this device check this link out and let me know what you think.
It looks to me to be the identical design of the doc from Panacea University Doc. I have a friend that is trying to have some electronics wiz build some for us and supposidly only like 20 in parts but I do like this design much better than the eagle style ones due to the fact of having the enclosure and the adjustability of the multi position switch up front. One adjusted no fiddleing with screw drivers while driving to get it tuned in completely.
eBay Motors: GAS FUEL SAVER! HHO HYDROGEN SINGLE O2 SENSOR ENHANCER (item 320241653682 end time Apr-28-08 10:00:02 PDT)
Later, Gforce598
P.S. let me know how much for one of your EFIE's as well

Hello,
Im not sure on this one.....It looks to be one of the older designs that ran on a 555 circuit. Also Once your EFIE is calibrated you would never have a reason to switch anything. With the design I posted (Chemelec's) it maintains the difference in voltage all the way through the 1 volt range. This is key because your O2 still functions with this circuit. It just adds (or subtracts) a fraction of a voltage and maintains it. The old 555 would set 1 voltage and send the same voltage all the time. Effectively running your engine with a set voltage, this is not a good thing since under different loads you would still want the ECU to do its job adjusting the fossil fuels.

Also I dont know if I will offer assembled EFIE's because I firmly believe ANYONE that is willing to mess with HHO should have the skills to at least solder a couple of circuits to a board ....Its not that hard, look at it as a learning experience. It will also weed out the people that "SHOULD NOT" be taking on the responsibilities required and do not have technical abilities to be "Toying" around in this area.
I will be offering a Kit to members here that will come with all the parts only Due to Minimum Orders at DIGI-KEY I doubt most people want to buy 100 resistors just to use one. I will not be marking them up, and I will only offer them to ACTIVE members Here.
I will post total cost of a kit along with all of the other stuff, like the public BOM this evening.
Keep a look out!

[TuxAir]

Just looked at my vehicles O2 sensors and I have a question. I did not readily find it in the forums.

My '95 GMC truck has a single wire O2 sensor. (OBDI system, 5.7L TBI)
My '06 Toyota has a 4 wire O2 sensor.
My '08 VW has a 5 wire O2 sensor.

I am confident the 4 & 5 wire ones would be fine. I know the VW does not have a wide band O2 sensor. I believe the 5th wire is merely a shielding wire making it a 4 wire O2 sensor in operation shielding the data wire to the ECU


Question is... Will this EFIE kit work on all 3? (single,4,5 wire O2 sensors)

[Redmeanie]

Just looked at my vehicles O2 sensors and I have a question. I did not readily find it in the forums.

My '95 GMC truck has a single wire O2 sensor. (OBDI system, 5.7L TBI)
My '06 Toyota has a 4 wire O2 sensor.
My '08 VW has a 5 wire O2 sensor.

I am confident the 4 & 5 wire ones would be fine. I know the VW does not have a wide band O2 sensor. I believe the 5th wire is merely a shielding wire making it a 4 wire O2 sensor in operation shielding the data wire to the ECU


Question is... Will this EFIE kit work on all 3? (single,4,5 wire O2 sensors)

It will work on any "Narrow Band" O2 Sensor......

[TuxAir]

Thank you for the clarification.

[Redmeanie]

Board Update!!!!

Everyone,
Last night I stayed up Re-Designing the Boards in my PCB Software.....Not because there was anything wrong with "Chemelecs" But just so I wasn't taking his Boards, making them and Offering them for sale......That is against my ideals....

Im almost CERTAIN all of you will appreciate the way I am going to offer them!

[Redmeanie]

Here You Go.....

Here is a Combo Board.....

It Has:
(2) Fuel Mixture Controllers (EFFIE)
(1) Hi Power Multi Mosfet (Off Board) Pulse Width Controller
(1) Standard Pulse Width Controller (On Board Mosfet)

Let Me Know If This Board Would Interest Anyone!
You Would Just Need To Cut It and Drill Holes (Very Easy)

Or I Will Have Individual Boards Available Already Drilled And Cut, Unfortunately They will be More Because Of Time Involved....

I Highly Recommend Getting The Combo Board That way you can save a bunch of money and have spares!

[Jetijs]

This is SOOOO GREAT
Good job, man
Thank you for sharing

[Redmeanie]

Oh Yeah...

Oh Yeah,
I Forgot to say I will be giving the complete Instructions and Layouts with these, and I selected these for their Simple Design and Reliability.

Also This Evening if there is enough interest (PLEASE LET ME KNOW VIA PM) I will put up Pricing Options, so Everyone can pick what all they need...IE
I will be putting together Whole Kits, Just Boards, Or Just Parts, Whatever You Need....I need an Idea of how many are interested so I can give accurate pricing because of minimum orders required by my suppliers.....

[TuxAir]

Looks great! I look forward to an entire kit! (PM sent)
Much thanks!

[TuxAir]

@RedMeanie, I'll be visiting my benchstock area at work soon. Which size drill bit do you use for drilling the boards? It has been a while since I have done circuit board level work. Do 0.035" and 0.060" drills sound right?

[Redmeanie]

@RedMeanie, I'll be visiting my benchstock area st work soon. Which size drill bit do you use for drilling the boards? It has been a while since I have done circuit board level work. Do 0.035" and 0.060" drills sound right?

Yes .035 will work that is about right.....I use my dremel bits, Whatever you do DONT buy Specialized bits from an Electronics place....They charge way too much for them.....And since just about everyone here probably has a dremel (Great For This) I highly recomend just grabbing a set of theirs...They are cheap and I have had this same set for years.....

[Redmeanie]

Pricing.....

If looking for sales info that was here before just look for the "Sales Info" Thread I started here in the "Energy" Members only forum, which should just be one click of the "Back" Button....

[TuxAir]

ummm edited because I had a "Senior Moment".

[Chet]

Shipping

Redmeanie ...... some questions come to mind. I have basic soldering skills. Repaired the odd cold solder joint on small circuit boards, built custom control panels in vehicles with LED's etc. How difficult will these boards be for a newbie board builder?
Why a 3 position verses a 6 position rotary switch? Wouldn't one have more adjustability with the 6, or am I missing something here.
As my knowledge of PWM's is limited right now, I'm assuming that the regular one you offer could run 1 or 2 cells at a time and the hi-power PWM would run multiple cells? Please forgive this basic question.
Lastly, where in the world will these kits be shipped from? ........ Chet