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  • I have not had any batteries blow up. They are correct when they say you are using potential and very low to no amps. I've had about 90 percent success rate with EVERY type of of battery. So gather yourself a bunch of batteries and have fun.

    I monitor the voltage with a meter, any small cheap meter will work, to just see what kind of volts you are going to. It doesnt indicate capacity, but it does tell you where your at as far at the voltage goes. And as stated above, Ive took caps to hundred of volts and not one has blown up. But i have made spark gaps out of them and melted screwdriver tips. Lots of fun!!! Let us know how your experiments go.

    “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

    Nikola Tesla

    http://www.imhotepslab.com

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    • Originally posted by mikkyo View Post
      I have it working now.
      Since my coils are connected
      12
      34
      1 and 4, 2 and 3, I put 2(+) on the + supply and 3(-) on the collector, 1(-)on the pot-base, and 4(+) on the emitter.
      It all comes down to coil layout, which is why a set of detailed diagrams for each possible fan coil config folks have come across would be very useful.
      Hi Mikkyo,

      I found one fan that was like that and I could never get it to work. I ended up tossing it. The ones that I have gotten to work were always adjacent on the coils. IE:

      1 2
      3 4
      coils connected were 1 & 3, 2 & 4 ( or 1 & 2, 3 & 4), but never 1 & 4, 2 & 3 (across from each other). I know that doesn't really help you and Imhotep or someone else maybe has gotten them working when they were across from each other, but my experience was that I couldn't get that config to work.

      Good Luck...

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      • Originally posted by InTheField View Post
        Hi Mikkyo,

        I found one fan that was like that and I could never get it to work. I ended up tossing it. The ones that I have gotten to work were always adjacent on the coils. IE:

        1 2
        3 4
        coils connected were 1 & 3, 2 & 4 ( or 1 & 2, 3 & 4), but never 1 & 4, 2 & 3 (across from each other). I know that doesn't really help you and Imhotep or someone else maybe has gotten them working when they were across from each other, but my experience was that I couldn't get that config to work.

        Good Luck...
        I have a 120mm fan Bedini motor with coils directly across from each other. It's definitely possible.

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        • all these fans could have different magnetic structures. i am glad someone has run into an odd magnet structure and are sharing results thank you for the additional info it all helps future experimenters great work
          “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

          Nikola Tesla

          http://www.imhotepslab.com

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          • Originally posted by mikkyo View Post
            I have it working now.
            Since my coils are connected
            12
            34
            1 and 4, 2 and 3, I put 2(+) on the + supply and 3(-) on the collector, 1(-)on the pot-base, and 4(+) on the emitter.
            It all comes down to coil layout, which is why a set of detailed diagrams for each possible fan coil config folks have come across would be very useful.

            I used 12V 700ma supply, NTE125 diodes, 2N3055 transistor, 10Kohm wire-wound linear taper 10-turn pot, and a Delta AFB1212HE fan.

            I edited Imhotep's stator to show how mine looks, and where the wires run.
            after more research and more trail blazers like yourself contribute i will do a final step by step video with a text and photo companion file for all to use ,again thank you for not giving up and contributing your knowledge, it helps all of us
            “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

            Nikola Tesla

            http://www.imhotepslab.com

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            • Article on Free Energy and the Open Source Energy Movement

              Hiya all,

              Pleased to come to this great forum and see the very impressively-detailed and easy-to-follow instructions and research work done by ~Imhotep~

              Just wanted to mention i recently had an article on Free Energy and the Open Source Energy Movement published on a political blog site "Op-Ed News" (250,000 weekly readers) that is really no news to you all, lol... but might be of some interest; as there is an interview with Mr. Stefan Hartmann. Feel free to comment there adding links you would suggest to "newbies" to the subject; and "Digg" it to increase its visibility across the web ("Digg" button at the top-right of the article).

              Here's the link:

              Free Energy and the Open Source Energy Movement


              ...Now if i could only talk some of you into interviewing for the next articles in the series...
              Last edited by jibbguy; 06-26-2008, 11:09 PM.

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              • I'm having a little difficulty with my stator. I'm not sure exactly how I'm supposed to attach the 4th wire in the circuit. Also, one of my other wires, as well as the metal post it was attached to broke off and I need to re-wrap it a little.

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                • watch the movie on you tube (bedini imhotep ) take a component lead and clip it after you hold with hemostats or needle nose pliers gently head to sink it into plastic rotor area close to 4th wire or take old circuit board and clear off all old parts and run 4th wire thru an old lead hole and solder to a trace after you isolate that portion of board and solder old leads back in original holes and isolate them also (i use an razor knife to cut unused traces, look back in earlier part of post at my pancake coil fan ,i used this technical shortcut to rescue this fan.
                  “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

                  Nikola Tesla

                  http://www.imhotepslab.com

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                  • Originally posted by jibbguy View Post
                    Hiya all,

                    Pleased to come to this great forum and see the very impressively-detailed and easy-to-follow instructions and research work done by ~Imhotep~

                    Just wanted to mention i recently had an article on Free Energy and the Open Source Energy Movement published on a political blog site "Op-Ed News" (250,000 weekly readers) that is really no news to you all, lol... but might be of some interest; as there is an interview with Mr. Stefan Hartmann. Feel free to comment there adding links you would suggest to "newbies" to the subject; and "Digg" it to increase its visibility across the web ("Digg" button at the top-right of the article).

                    Here's the link:

                    Free Energy and the Open Source Energy Movement


                    ...Now if i could only talk some of you into interviewing for the next articles in the series...
                    excellent article well researched and no name calling lol . great job i will be in contact on more projects of interest to you. of open source -easy build type .hopefully someone here will be able to give Stefan Hartmann his objective he seeks very soon we will see! thank you for the link and keep up the great work talk soon
                    “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

                    Nikola Tesla

                    http://www.imhotepslab.com

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                    • Hey Imhotep I gotta challenge for you. You seem to have enough patience to work with the smaller configurations so I reckon you should try a vcr motor.

                      They are basically the same as far as I can tell, just a few more coils to work with!
                      Last edited by ren; 07-27-2008, 06:10 AM.
                      "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                      • RE: VCR Motor

                        Originally posted by ren View Post
                        Hey Imhotep I gotta challenge for you. You seem to have enough patience to work with the smaller configurations so I reckon you should try a vcr motor.

                        They are basically the same as far as I can tell, just a few more coils to work with!
                        The bearings are awesome!...

                        Not as good as some of my hard drive motors ( which you could do the same tiny tiny wire there. ).

                        I looked at this project and thought... I would simply cut the wire off and put new wire on so that I knew how the coils were wound...

                        Awe, but then I realized I have but one life, and I do want to finish this solid state Bedini before I die !

                        However, I think you would like the larger fan that Lidmotor did...
                        YouTube - Solar Bedini SSG running a fan while charging batteries

                        Found here..
                        Amazon.com: Ace 02-cool 1053 "O2 Cool" 2-speed Indoor/outdoor Fan with Dual Power Source - Light Gray: Home & Garden


                        I have found that Walmart also has "battery operated fans" so might be something to check out...


                        I have ordered today some clips for my 9V batteries, gonning to see how they opperate on my battery swapper with the fan....

                        Mart
                        See my experiments here...
                        http://www.youtube.com/marthale7

                        You do not have to prove something for it to be true. However, you do have to prove something for others to believe it true.

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                        • Heh, I'm still around.

                          I've been trying to do all of this experimenting on no budget... maybe $10 for components... but that's it.

                          At work, I've been spreading the word around for fans and batteries and have ended up with a ton of them. A lot of them are hard to dismantle, though, so I'm taking my time.

                          Since I hit the motherload with these Lead Acid UPS batteries I'm back in action. I have started conditioning several batteries that are from UPS system. So far, everything is going peachy. I have even ... played it dangerous and set up a "blast area" and left batteries charging overnight ending up with much higher voltage... probably not the smartest thing, but I wanted to see how far I could push these batteries, within reason.

                          In order to make sure this is doing what I want it to... (to co-workers, for one, and ultimately to myself) I'd like to know how to effectively drain batteries so I can test out this whole charging mechanism. I've switched off batteries with just one fan and have brought 2 near dead batteries back to full+ strength over a day. I just want to be able to repeat the experiment repeatedly.

                          Another thing I'd like to do is to create a "cleaner" circuit setup, putting it on a circuit board of sorts and mounting the fan, sans fins, directly just so I spin the nob to get it going. I've seen some pictures of people mounting the components, but not the fan... and I want to try that and see how it goes.

                          Anyway... just a little update on my progress... I know I dropped off for a bit, but I've been ... very busy. I need to get my lab set up so I can start work on the basic, homebrew Bendini SSG with the whole bicycle tire and magnets and stuff.

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                          • Originally posted by theremart View Post
                            The bearings are awesome!...

                            Not as good as some of my hard drive motors ( which you could do the same tiny tiny wire there. ).

                            I looked at this project and thought... I would simply cut the wire off and put new wire on so that I knew how the coils were wound...

                            Awe, but then I realized I have but one life, and I do want to finish this solid state Bedini before I die !

                            However, I think you would like the larger fan that Lidmotor did...
                            YouTube - Solar Bedini SSG running a fan while charging batteries

                            Found here..
                            Amazon.com: Ace 02-cool 1053 "O2 Cool" 2-speed Indoor/outdoor Fan with Dual Power Source - Light Gray: Home & Garden


                            I have found that Walmart also has "battery operated fans" so might be something to check out...


                            I have ordered today some clips for my 9V batteries, gonning to see how they opperate on my battery swapper with the fan....

                            Mart
                            the link that you had is excellent. a lot of charging and some work going on. nice size fan also. the guy did a good job. you could probably use the batteries at night when the sun goes down, possibly getting 24 hour power. i also have a large cap, a stiffening cap they are called. I havent gotten a chance to use it yet. been working on very simple 2 part relay charger, one relay one recovery diode. charges up 6 volts within 24 hours, will probably do a video, for people who dont want to build the fan and would like something simple, also been working on ev gray. and have complete power supply, which ill be releasing soon. been having alot of fun and will be posting more results as i get them. also working on new website which will have a quick an easy format to get to all my projects and movies, will post links when its complete.

                            as far as the vcr fan motor that ren is speaking of, i have the same motor..lol. i took all the wire off of it, and because of limited clearance i abandoned that project before i completed the computer fan. im planning hundred 's of ways to take off the shelve items and get recovery off of them, will be releasing the simple ones.

                            “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

                            Nikola Tesla

                            http://www.imhotepslab.com

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                            • Originally posted by elcman View Post
                              Heh, I'm still around.

                              I've been trying to do all of this experimenting on no budget... maybe $10 for components... but that's it.

                              At work, I've been spreading the word around for fans and batteries and have ended up with a ton of them. A lot of them are hard to dismantle, though, so I'm taking my time.

                              Since I hit the motherload with these Lead Acid UPS batteries I'm back in action. I have started conditioning several batteries that are from UPS system. So far, everything is going peachy. I have even ... played it dangerous and set up a "blast area" and left batteries charging overnight ending up with much higher voltage... probably not the smartest thing, but I wanted to see how far I could push these batteries, within reason.

                              In order to make sure this is doing what I want it to... (to co-workers, for one, and ultimately to myself) I'd like to know how to effectively drain batteries so I can test out this whole charging mechanism. I've switched off batteries with just one fan and have brought 2 near dead batteries back to full+ strength over a day. I just want to be able to repeat the experiment repeatedly.

                              Another thing I'd like to do is to create a "cleaner" circuit setup, putting it on a circuit board of sorts and mounting the fan, sans fins, directly just so I spin the nob to get it going. I've seen some pictures of people mounting the components, but not the fan... and I want to try that and see how it goes.

                              Anyway... just a little update on my progress... I know I dropped off for a bit, but I've been ... very busy. I need to get my lab set up so I can start work on the basic, homebrew Bendini SSG with the whole bicycle tire and magnets and stuff.
                              as i have posted before because of cold charging i'm not sure if you can blow up the batteries ,but to be safe you have a good idea. i noticed you had been gone and wondered how your results had been and as you have posted ,it looks successful the larger bedini (i miss spelled his name at first ,i was so excited about my discovery of recovery energy) projects put out bigger spikes ,so be ready for quicker results have fun and keep us posted on your progress .
                              “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

                              Nikola Tesla

                              http://www.imhotepslab.com

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                              • Blowing up batteries.

                                I think the greatest danger is with dead batteries that have either too little distilled water in one of the cells so that it builds up hydrogen and sparks then boom sulfuric acid everywhere.

                                Or... you attempt to put too much amperage into a very tiny battery. I think it is best with small batteries to try to match the voltage of the battery closely.

                                When I get a new battery, I as a rule check the electrolyte levels by pulling off the caps and refilling if needed.

                                For small batteries, I try to use a small voltage from a wall cell phone charger, like 6V - 9V to use to power the SSG.

                                The danger is there, but can be greatly lessen if you get to know your batteries and what the limits of what they can be charged with.

                                Safety is a good thing.... Good to watch for overheating of any electrical component, and measuring how many amps you are using.
                                See my experiments here...
                                http://www.youtube.com/marthale7

                                You do not have to prove something for it to be true. However, you do have to prove something for others to believe it true.

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