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  • 1.5 Ohms????

    I've pulled a fan apart and rewrapped the stator, cw-ccw-cw-ccw, single strands, 2 wires in total. When I test the ohms of the first windings get only 1.5 ohms. I tested the other and get the same result. Not sure what to think here. Each post is wound 50 times and I am using 30 gage wire. I was able to strip the wire with a wire wrap tool. I have 3 pics for you to look at:

    Stator.jpg is the stator windings

    Clips.jpg are the alligator clips attached to the wire I am testing. Meter reading is the same regardless of clips.

    meter.jpg is the meter reading. You can also see what I have the meter set to for confirmation.

    Any suggestions? This is my second winding attempt. The first was 40 turns of 28 gage I believe.

    My understanding is that there is supposed to be a much higher resistance (40+ ohms) from what I've read here. Is this a typical measurement?

    Thanks in advance!
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    Last edited by jimmydean; 09-18-2008, 11:22 PM. Reason: update

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    • You're stator looks great, but then again I've never gotten any of mine working right, I think they've all shorted somewhere. If you're getting lower resistance then you think you should, then all the better! .

      Also, I just recently got my 273-0238 fan. Before I try it, does anyone know if I could damage it if I tried powering it with a camera flash capacitor?

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      • Thanks Ding. I'm going to wire it up as is and see what happens.

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        • Imhotep, the diagram in the video is pretty hard to see.
          I took some time after class, and I drew up a nice new diagram based on the grainy one in the video (part 1).

          Here it is:
          http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...itDiagram2.jpg

          The only thing I ask is that no one remove my name from this diagram,
          because I drew this one. Thanks!

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          • Originally posted by Opteron_Man View Post
            Imhotep, the diagram in the video is pretty hard to see.
            I took some time after class, and I drew up a nice new diagram based on the grainy one in the video (part 1).

            Here it is:
            http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...itDiagram2.jpg

            The only thing I ask is that no one remove my name from this diagram,
            because I drew this one. Thanks!

            imhotep, is this the accurate diagram, please?
            Flickr photosets (My visits to the Nikola Tesla&Viktor Schauberger Museums, Steorn Waterways 2009 Orbo demonstration, Earthship Brighton, and also Walter Russell images)
            My electronic music

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            • Another success story.

              With much trial and error I figured out how to separate the 2 wires on the one post of the stator. I figured that I have used the wrong soldering iron for the job initially which transferred too much heat. Also I struggled with the original circuit for a bit as I could not it running and replaced it with a 555 timer circuit but I realise now that probably won't work as good as the proper Bedini-Imhotep SSG circuit.

              I think my biggest obstacle really was figuring out the correct positive and negative wires to connect for the trigger coil side of the fan. For some reason I can not get a neon bulb to glow yet; perhaps my voltage spikes are not high enough to work. Battery charging is working great for 6V sealed lead-acid battery and 4 rechargeable NiMH batteries so far. I am very happy that this works so great!

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              • I am a little confused.

                Hi. I'm in the process of making one of these units, hopefully to resucitate dead motorbike batteries. I am a little confused about the diagram as made by opteron man. Specifically the coil part. I suspect I am not alone reading some of the other posts... I have taken my motor apart, just like in imhoteps vid and carefully taken the two wires off the post that has 2 wires on it. I then made the fourth post and set one of the two wires on it. (Replacing the other one in it's original position of course.)

                HOWEVER, I when I meter for continuity I have ended up with two pairs of 40 ohm impedances DIAGONALLY across my four pins, and I suspect that would lead to disaster if I were to wire it up as per the given diagram... One set of coils would of course be straight across the source battery with my configuration. Would I be correct in my assumption that in Mikes other wise excellently clear circuit that one set of coils should be connected to the wiper of the pot and primary Batt negative, and the other set across Primary Batt positive and the point where the transistor, neon and diode meet?

                I'd appreciate as quick a reply as possible, as I want to get this done ASAP!

                Cheers, Steve C.
                Last edited by swallabat; 09-25-2008, 05:28 PM. Reason: ER, Clarity...

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                • spiral rotor

                  I have a motor that goes to a fan for a stove. Took it apart to find that the rotor's magnets are in a spiral fashion. Has anyone else tried to get a motor like this to spin with the spiral magnets using this circuit? I was gonna wire it up but I may break the electronic bits trying to take em out, "they're stuffed between the coils".
                  If you've made it this far then I've finally quit rambling.

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                  • Opteron_Man & esaruoho, the diagram is right, except the charge battery is backwards. There was a few diagrams earlier in the topic you could have used.

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                    • now I'm REALLY confused.

                      OK. after a trip to Imhotep's website and a view at the proper circuit diagram there, and after only a short bit of reconfiguration, my fan spins. (so far so good...)

                      However, the neon refuses to strike no matter where I set the potentiometer.

                      The fan runs differently (faster and with more torque) depending on which way you start it off.

                      BUT most confusingly of all BOTH my batteries show a higher voltage across the terminals than they showed before I set it running a few minutes ago...

                      The output battery, yes I'd expect that to go up, but my input battery??

                      I must have made a measurement error, so I will leave it on over night and see what happens...

                      This is more fun than watching the news, thats for sure. Well done Imhotep.
                      You got me working...

                      Cheers, Steve C.

                      P.S. Good or bad, I'll be testing this little machine out as much as possible, and you'll get some feedback. One thing that strikes me immediately, is I'd sure like to have had an indication on the diagram an indication of where to check for continuity across my coils. I assume that red and black indicate each circuit, and you have polarised them so that someone with a compass and a battery restor combo like me, can measure the polarity of the field, and sex it accordingly, but that part wasn't very explicit I felt, and if I'd been a little more dense I could have ended up putting the source battery straight across one winding. Admittedly it would have been vastly easier if I'd gone to radio shack and bought the same fan that you recommend, instead of looting my fan from a random PC, but even so, when you take the two wires off the one terminal and create the fourth terminal there are two ways you can end up wiring your fan motor, which unless there is a clear laid out testing sequence could make it harder than it needs to be in my humble opinion. On my particular fan motor it wasn't easy to see how the coils were wound, so I had to meter it for continuity, and use a compass to get the sense of how the magnetic field was sexed. Hope my comments and initail opinions are of some use to someone.

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                      • OK, now I am less confused.

                        there must have been an error in my initial meansurement. The machine after an overnight run has discharged its primary battery somewhat, (A small LIPO) which is more as I expected.

                        MY secondary battery, a motorcycle lead acid battery, also now shows less voltage that it was indicating last night, although, still more than it initially started with...

                        Although I will be happy if this device simply rejuvenates my bike battery, I do intend to prove or disprove the "free energy at last" part. I'm unsure exactly how people have come to the conclusion that this device is producing the surplus energy, and later after I have finished my sleeping, (Had to get up when I woke up just to see if my primary battery REALLY was increasing in voltage, that would really have been something!) I'll read all of the thread and review the videos.

                        One way or another, I'll tell you what I find.. (If there is more energy being output, I'll help you close the loop, and get it to self run, if there isn't I'll show you where the error is.)

                        I'm still a little concerned that my neon isn't flashing. there again my oscilloscope only shows a 17v spike across it, so I probably need to rebuild my unit using exactly the specified components....

                        Stay tuned! - Steve C.
                        Last edited by swallabat; 09-26-2008, 09:17 AM. Reason: Removed grammatical error.

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                        • well, I've been trying to attach the one wire to the non-common pole of my fan. Out of the blue the ground wire and part of the circuit board it was attached to broke off. And I can't seem to get the stator off to fix it appropreately, but thanks to it's schematic I was able to hook it up to the diode it connects to and at least get it running.

                          Now if I can't attach the wire to the stator without risk of damaging the fan, I might try attaching the wire somewhere else on the circuit.

                          I noticed Imhotep hasn't posted for a while. I hope he hasn't gone the way of Stefan Nystrom. :P

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                          • Originally posted by Dingus View Post
                            well, I've been trying to attach the one wire to the non-common pole of my fan. Out of the blue the ground wire and part of the circuit board it was attached to broke off. And I can't seem to get the stator off to fix it appropreately, but thanks to it's schematic I was able to hook it up to the diode it connects to and at least get it running.

                            Now if I can't attach the wire to the stator without risk of damaging the fan, I might try attaching the wire somewhere else on the circuit.

                            I noticed Imhotep hasn't posted for a while. I hope he hasn't gone the way of Stefan Nystrom. :P
                            You might have to remove the stator, and attach the wire to one of the non-common pole coil attachments on the circuit board then put the stator back on and use the wire that you ran out to attach the anode of a diode to the wire you ran out and use the cathode for the charge battery positive and hook the negative of the charge battery to the source batteries positive. Sorry not posting for awhile I have been side tracked a little bit with some personal things. I will always try to contribute when I can. good luck
                            “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

                            Nikola Tesla

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                            • Consumption fall?

                              I have some news:Today I connected the output of my Imhotep fan (basic version) to the primary of my ignition coil.To the Hv coil output I connected a modified CFL bulb and grounded it into the wall outlet.The strange thing is that without the coil and the bulb,the fan consumes 0,07 measured on the 20mA scale multimeter,and with the coil and the bulb connected,the circut consumes 0,04.Whats happening? Electron sucking from the ground?
                              By the way the ligth from the bulb is scarce the same....

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                              • Originally posted by Philosopher View Post
                                I have some news:Today I connected the output of my Imhotep fan (basic version) to the primary of my ignition coil.To the Hv coil output I connected a modified CFL bulb and grounded it into the wall outlet.The strange thing is that without the coil and the bulb,the fan consumes 0,07 measured on the 20mA scale multimeter,and with the coil and the bulb connected,the circut consumes 0,04.Whats happening? Electron sucking from the ground?
                                By the way the ligth from the bulb is scarce the same....
                                Hi philosopher
                                your finding the effect i had
                                YouTube - Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator Video Bodkins

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