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  • Thank you ! :-)

    Hi every body
    thanks to every single one
    I think it is the charging/discharging batterie problem. I hope so .
    My biggest problem is that I live in europe and there is doesn't exist a 120V neon Bulb. Only a 12V or 220V. one goes on before The fan is running and doesn't alow it to run. The other from 220V doesn't glows!

    I thaught that if I would take 10*12V connected in series it would work but it doesn't glow

    some one has an Idea?

    If someone find a solution this would be great

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    • Originally posted by jointbk View Post
      Hi every body
      thanks to every single one
      I think it is the charging/discharging batterie problem. I hope so .
      My biggest problem is that I live in europe and there is doesn't exist a 120V neon Bulb. Only a 12V or 220V. one goes on before The fan is running and doesn't alow it to run. The other from 220V doesn't glows!

      I thaught that if I would take 10*12V connected in series it would work but it doesn't glow

      some one has an Idea?

      If someone find a solution this would be great
      send me your address will post some!(private message)

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      • Hello,
        you can try to put a Resistor or a Pot in Serie with the 12V Bulb.
        This Fan doesnt trow much Amps, so it should work easy, to adjust the Bulb.
        Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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          they did have some bulb the last time I was in the shop.
          you need to email them to check the stock.
          if you have no luck i will pop down and try and pick some up and send them on to your home address
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          • @jointbk

            Hi, I'm french too, but will write in English for everyone here to understand

            I've found 85v and 110v neon bulbs at an electronics shop near my place.
            But as their website is very confusing, mainly aimed at branded replacement parts, it's quite impossible to find small general components through it (ie: I could'nt).

            I've found for you a similar 85v neon bulb here :
            optoelectronique : Go Tronic : optoelectronique

            ref: LN615 85 Vac 1.8 6 mm 03630 0.40 €

            Hope this may help you. While I was struggling to make my first Imhotep's Bedini Fan, I've found it to be a much better indication for us. The 110v one needs more energy to light significantly. Lots of people have used NE2, which is a 65v neon bulb already in series with a resistor. So, you can go for the reference given above and plug it 'naked as is'. It worked excellent for me. I never fryied one with my fan @ 12v 0.24 A.

            A perfect help I have now is an oscilloscope; I could get it for 100 euros, plus delivery, at E-bay (130 euros with two probes). You could get one for cheaper there, I'm sure. Whatever the reachable Mhz, until it seems that radiant energy is best had far under 2000 khz (and less).

            Don't worry for the charging process, I'm always discovering everyday that it is a veeeeery sloooooow process (especially with a fan that can't feed the system with a great lot more than the current able to go through it...). Also: this 'extra-curent' is in form of regular spikes, it's not continuous. In comparison, the amperage total income needed to feed any battery to saturation is huge to fill. That's why it's soooooooo slow (I'm working with car batteries, so I can double tell you...). That is just making veeeery long the 'conditioning' process for me...

            Ah : please note that the bulb can light only when no charging battery is attached (and it's intended too for we then can't fry the transistor).

            Good luck in your research.
            Last edited by marseye; 04-25-2009, 11:30 AM.
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            • thanks a lot but...

              Thank you for helping me,
              I really apreciate it.
              Lets pretend that the potentiometre is at almost 1K because I realised that at almost1K the bulb glows the most.

              1) I take the bulb away and connect the charging batterie.(Now the bulb still glows but just a bit.(Is it normal?)) I have two modified fans one at 0,28A and the other at 0,11A. With the two the bulb is lighting but it is probabli because I used a bulb 12V with a resistance conected in series, instead of the 120V bulb.
              2)Now everything connected I turn the fan an it begins to run.
              When it runs it makes a little sound.
              3) the charging batterie is charging but when the charging batt is at 11.35V it stops charging.(strange?)
              4)the other batterie does'nt charg herself up. Or maybe it does but not more than what the fan consumes.

              I tried to to change the cable connection. inverse + and - (not at the batteries but at the fan) and acctualy it also turn but doesn't charg.
              I changed my transistor my diods to make sure they are not grilled but it changed nothing.
              I think that my only mistake is at the fan. but I resd everything, I saw every video but it still doesn't work
              I have realy no Idea what I did wrong but I someone have an idea:
              Please tell me

              And marseye you come certainly from Marseille. I'm from Alsace but if you could give me your e-mail maybe you could tell...

              Thanks to everybody an other time for helping me

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              • @ jointbk :
                Click on my name to send me a private message, and include your e-mail address if you need an answer.

                Of course your 12v bulb glows in a 12v system ! Even after a resistor, because if we can light 85v bulbs with such systems, your resistor may be 'compensated'. You need at least a 85v NEON bulb. 110v will do, but I prefer 85v on these fans.

                About charging a battery 12v 7Ah :
                When the voltage comes close to the rated battery voltage, is when you need to be patient. Because 'voltage' is not 'amperage'. And even @ 11.35v, you can say your battery is still 'empty'. It's going to charge, but at your fan's pace; means: to get 1 more amp with a 0,28A fan, you may be waiting for ...3.57H... And you need so many more amps, at that point... The Imhotep's Bedini fan is intended for us to learn about radiant charging'. There's no other 'miracle' than understanding about the 'spikes' phenomena.
                Then, 3 options : 1) be veeeeery patient (days) 2)charge from a slightly higher voltage (some people here like to charge from 24v). 15v is recommended (since a 12v battery reaches 14.4v when fully charged. 12v is a low limit that you should not get too far beyond) 3) try to charge NiMh 9v (and less) batteries, or so : that should be faster to learn. Because what we need to 'see' with it is to compare how long we charge a battery, then how long will last the job asked from it, and start again and again to see if there are improvements in the battery behaviour for the same task. The battery will be cycled at least 5 times in order to see any change... That's what's called 'conditioning'. That's how you'll learn as I did, before you'll finally digg into other systems after that. A real Bedini wheel and its coil are much bigger and powerful, and can certainly charge faster... There are other means to explore in this forum. Lots of them are dealing with coils, transistors, and ignition coils (in french: bobine d'allumage. Beware of high voltage electrical hazards then).

                It's better to charge bateries lower than 12v with your system (ie: cell phone and other accus). You can try to recharge alkaline batteries too before you throw them to the bin too early.


                No matter if you hear a sound coming from your fan : it's the sound of the radiant energy' coming through it ! I'm serious. Each magnets/coils system dealing with 'spikes' will 'sing' at some point.

                And if your modified fan works, you did everything right. If it wasn't, it wouldn't turn.

                Hope it helps. Good luck.
                Last edited by marseye; 05-13-2009, 12:52 PM.
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                • Smile

                  ok ok thanks a lot

                  I always charged my batterie until 12,80V that's maybe why.
                  Now I will try again and tell you when I will have some news.

                  Finally "une lueur d'éspoir"

                  thanks

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                  • Okay i am new
                    an first i see this thing on youtube i think wow OO i need thise
                    okay here are my Question
                    YouTube - Free energy in minutes step by step
                    what is the Thing at 4:46 called and what do it ?
                    Did i realy need it ?
                    and can i take and LED instand the Neon Bulb ?
                    and must i take a Battery to charg on ?
                    can the System run with no Battry ?

                    and is thise (KLICK ME!!!1) the right Transistor ? :O
                    hope i get answers and you understand it all
                    Last edited by Mapmann; 05-11-2009, 09:22 PM.

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                    • Here are answers for you :
                      1- The 'thing' is a potentiometer, which is a sort of variable resistor. You'll need a 1KOhms one. Put a 100 Ohms 1/2 watt resistor after it, just before you attach it to the base (because your potentiometer could fry at very low ohms settings : too much current would cross through it).
                      2- A led will light in every case, because it needs only 2V(max) to work. So, yes, you need a neon lamp (see my previous posts on this page)
                      3-Once you have your neon bulb (85v or 110v, whatever), then : no, you don't need a charging battery to run your fan. BTW, the neon is needed precisely for that situation, and as an indicator of when you are on the good setting of your potentiometer. Once the neon glows best, you can attach then a battery to receive the energy that your neon shows.
                      4- yes, this is the good NPN transistor (2N3055)

                      You'll find a longer explanation in my two previous posts above.

                      Cheers.
                      Last edited by marseye; 05-13-2009, 12:56 PM.
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                      • If i check my Fan every Pol of the 4 has contact wiht the other is that right ?

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                        • Na, you certainly have a shorting
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                          • what is a shorting Oo Now i have bring it in the System the new Fan with the 4 contacts If i take Power on it short spin then i feel that power is on the Fan but cant spin what can i do ?

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                            • "Shorting" (not sure : I'm french) is when your 2 wires have an electrical contact together(check for continuity). You should have 2 distincts wires, with 2 poles for each one.
                              Have a look there : John Bedini Simplified School Girl basic plans
                              the wiring of the regular bifilar coil on this page may help you understand how to hook the 2 distinct wires from your fan's coils. If the fan can't work, it may be because you made a mistake about in/out for each wire. Then, just reverse 1 wire in/out only, and that should work.
                              But first, make sure that your 2 wires have no electrical contact with each other.
                              Last edited by marseye; 05-16-2009, 11:14 PM.
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                              • Shorting okay i know what you mean but if it test the Fan withe i dont know what it mean in English the 4 Pols have conntact too wich no wire on :O it is my 4 Fan but 2 dont worke and know 2 have thise Problem -.-

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