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[Joit]

Lost66
You better seperate the Coils into 2x2,
like Imhotep did show it at his Circuit and his Videos.
When you trigger all 4 Coils at the same time,
the N-S Fields at the Magnet will cancel each other out.

Btw, what is your resistance at your Coils, it should be higher at last, as the Resistance at the Gate.
Ie, coils 10 Ohms, or 5 Ohms,
and Pot or Resistor for the Gate minimum the same or lower.

[Zooty]

First of all Joit, the device you have would not have been possible if it wasn't for Bedini's work. You have an SSG circuit with a fan as the magneto. The "Story from a Book" was written by the man who made it possible for you to blindly build the device you have. I have built a few of these and they can charge a 18ah battery in 12 hours using just 250ma@12v with #24 wire. If you don't know what is charging the battery then you haven't been paying attention. If your device wont charge the battery properly then you haven't built it properly. Put a 1ohm resistor across the output (on a working device) and that will show you that it is not conventional electricity charging your battery. I have read the book many times to further understand what is happening, that is why my device works properly and yours doesn't. Think before you start shooting your mouth off at people. This post is nothing against you, but you did discredited the very people who made this possible for you.

[Joit]

Zooty, you are soo smart,
but actually, i only wait, that you answer the Questions above,
and a Proof, that you charge up a 7,5Ah Batt with THIS Kind of Fan,
nothing else, what eat 250mA,

And even that is Way to high Input, what you did build there.

Maybe you should first 'Think, before you open your Mouth'

Seriously, i dont know, Peoples come in here, wanna learn,
but think, they do know all and anything better.

[Zooty]

I don't want to start an argument over this but you completely ignored most of what i said and focused on what you said in the first place. Have you watched any of the "Energy from the vacuum" series? Oh sorry, i said the V word.. which does not exist in your eyes. Why did you even build this thing if you don't believe in the technology it is based on? "the Word Energy from the Vacuum like a Drug".. what a ridiculous statement to make! You are probably one of these people who looks at an inverters technology and thinks he can do better without even trying to build it to the inverters spec in the first place. Do you really think you know better than the inventor?

[Joit]

Zooty
Read back, and look WHO do ignore, what is said.

I still waiting, that just simple answer my Questions, wich I asked first.
Is that so hard to get?

Especially,
And at last, explain me, where or why do you think, YOU know, what i think
and
Hows about, YOU show us, how you charge a 7,5Ah Batterie in 12 Hours
with a Fan from a computer, what has only #35 Wire inside.

Do you wanna mess this Thread, or are here for Trouble?
If not, stop messing around here, and read through that Forum or ONLY THIS THREAD through all Pages, like i did, maybe you can learn a bit more.

And no, i did not read any of these Books, where you can buy, i did see no need for that.

[Zooty]

Why would i build a fan version when i have already built several versions built to the patent spec that work as specified? No discredit to imhotep but this design is not patented as far as i know and it was originally designed by Rick Frederick i think. My original comment was based on something you said in your post.

"And other Thing, this small Fans dont have thick Wires inside,
dont assume, they spit much Power out, but they are nice, to make high Voltage."

If you understood the system you would know that it is NOT supposed to put out power and that IT IS supposed to put out high voltage. It is the high voltage that is resonating the battery to pull the external energy in. Have you put a scope on your output to analyse the waveform? Do you even know what kind of waveform you are looking for? If you are using thin wire, use smaller batteries with higher impedance but i guess you wouldn't know this if you haven't researched Bedini's work.

The story can be found in this book The Tom Bearden Website

[Joit]

Ack, Zooty.
I said 'something' in my Post?

Well i will help you,
read it, what i did write, read it again and again and again,
till you really understand, what i did write there and the previous Posts,
before you imputes, that i did say 'something'.

especially this 2 Sentences

Well, i guess, its not 'Free Energie' right now,
and that is, what other say, that J.B did never claim it, that the SG(Schoolgirlmotor) is.
What i know, the Ratio should be 1:1,7 what you can charge, its not much, but i did not do a compare with 2 same Batteries, where i really can confirm it.
And other Thing, this small Fans dont have thick Wires inside,
dont assume, they spit much Power out, but they are nice, to make high Voltage.
There are plenty of Variations of it, and i prefer anyway more, to make my own Coils.
And this is good, for charging up any batteries, and get more Capacity in them, what much dont see.
Even that is a good Reason for need to have one.

Why building this Fan?
Because you seems to have a Problem with what i write there,
and show the Proof, how much this Fan can do, or not.

Zooty @Joit, If you think what is coming from your thin wires is power then you will never understand the concept.

But you refuse, to rebuild this Fan here, but its the Topic
Free Energy At Last Step By Step Must See.
you still did not answer ONE of my Questions, and i bet, you still cant answer,
why its called Free Energie step by Step.



When you really think, you can stand with your Points,
then Post here -> The case against Over Unity

baroutologus is hungry for, to finally find someone,
who can show him a Way and a clean Proof with Datas and a running Device.

-Edit-
For your other Experience with a SG try that
Bedini SG

[Zooty]

My device uses a 21" bicycle wheel with 16 grade 5 ceramic magnets around it. Guess what? It does exactly what the fan does but on a bigger scale for bigger batteries that's all. Why should i build a fan version when i know it is going to do the same thing? Your comment about the power output could easily mislead a novice in to thinking that these devices charge batteries with a hot current, that is all i was trying to point out. It doesn't put out much power but its good for high voltage.. this analogy is wrong regarding the SSG setup.

[Joit]

Zooty
A Novice will think that anyway, because he dont know it better.
Why or what it does, i think noone do know it right now exactly.
Not, what does charge, neither what do happen at the Charge.
To show the effect at this Fan here, you would need to power and charge with 2 same Batteries,
and do that over more Cycles, because the Batteries only gain after few Charges
a higher Capacitance and can get faster a charge.
Then you would need to measure input vs charge and capacitance from
ie. AA or 9V Block Batteries each time.
A Novice would not do that, and even not know, why he should, right Zooty?
But then you could see, if you can gain more Power as you put in,
asuming, you know, how to measure it all well.

At this Setup from the Fan, where 4 Coils are around 4 (weak?) Magnets,
it wont has a great charge Rate and even not a fast Rate at the first Time.
Not really 'Free Energy'.
It is good enough, to charge some small Batteries,
with a bigger Fan even at a faster Time.
And therefor, the Size of Wire is importend, because, it depends,
how much Current is running through. Thats a fact.
There is a Gain, but hard to see for most, and even better after the right adjustment,
but when someone dont want to see it, he wont.

And its lesser, as you think, all at the Resonance from the Batterie,
its actually from the Field, what is build there and the Quality of the spikes.
It probatly helps, when you find the Resonance point from a Batterie,
i dont know and i dont think so, and i did not find any Informations about that,
but if that would be the Point, it wouldnt work at all Batteries,
you would need to find for each Batterie the Sweet Spot,
for any age and Size of different Batteries.
But it works anytime, to charge them up, so, that is not the Point.
This Fans works better as Transformers for the HV because of the thin Wires,
as like good charger.

A SG is different, because there depends a lot of, how the Coils are made,
and you can get total different Results with different Coils,
bifilar, or different wound, and how they are arranged.

Good for you, when you are happy with your SG, and i wont take you the Hype about it.
but you should look from more Sides on it, not only from one View.

The best, what someone can do in this Thread here, is to help them
to stick it all together, and bring it to run.
Thats enough, to make the first Steps for this Devices,
and if you wanna help, then Post a Table of Datas from a working Fan,
and show them, how good this 'unpatented and unconfirmed' Concept is.

[Zooty]

I cant post anything because i haven't made one (Fan style). Yes, the coils are different, the magnets are NSNS etc but the principal is the same. I will stop here, take on-board what you have said and leave it at that. I hope i didn't offend you too much, i was trying to make a point on something you said and somehow it got a bit heated.

[lost66]

hi blackchisel97 and Joit thank u 4 yr response.
(Free Energy At Last Step By Step Must See Post 155) does not look the same, it looks as if each 'post(?)' has 1 winding and looks as if my fan has 2 on each. have a look @ my artistic rendering of my motor windings. (i have already separated the 2) there are 2 windings (1 has a red isolation coating and the other 1 has a copper coating), 1 inner a1-a2 and 1 outer b1-b2. both start @ a1/b1(not joined) and r wound ccw-cw-ccw-cw and end as a2/b2(again not joined) in a cw direction. both have a 1ohm res.(ps. this is not a small pc fan, but a much bigger 12v fan. have a look @ my previous pic, there is a ruler in there 2 give u an idea of its size and u can see the specs on the casing) i have a thought on this 1, if it is not the same as the pc fan, can i use the 1st winding 2 run the fan, the 2nd 2 charge, and add a thinner 3rd 2 trigger(there should b enough space). thanx again, i hope u can help

[lost66]

oops! i c now that my 1st pic was not a attachment, here it is (i hope)

[lost66]

not only am i new 2 this concept of free energy, i am just as new 2 using a forum. do i have2 refresh every 10min or will new replys come up automatically,or or or. sorry not blond, but new!!

[Zooty]

Refresh this page or the index before this page, that should do it

[Sephiroth]

not only am i new 2 this concept of free energy, i am just as new 2 using a forum. do i have2 refresh every 10min or will new replys come up automatically,or or or. sorry not blond, but new!!

Hi Lost66

Did you wind the coils or are those the original windings?