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  • Skywatcher

    Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
    Hi farmhand, thanks for jumping in here to help. Hi FRC, glad you got it working.
    I'm not sure what you mean by, you have bigger coils, do you mean you have more wire or do you mean your wire gauge is bigger.
    Also, i'm not sure what you mean by charging coils.
    As far as i know and by the way i have my fan wired, we have one pair of drive power coils and one pair of trigger coils and then we take the flyback off the drive power coils to charge batteries.

    I checked my 6volt lead acid gell cell today. It held its charge very well, while charging yesterday it was at 6.12 volts and today it is holding at 6.11-6.12 flipping between the two numbers. So it's definitely NOT a fluffy surface charge.
    Though I'm going to guess it's probably better to charge a lower voltage battery off the flyback end.
    So if using a 12volt, 7AH input battery, then I would use two 6volt, 7AH batteries in parallel to charge for best results.

    Though a 12 volt on charge still seemed to charge, just not sure if it will end up being a fluffy charge, will have to test and see.
    Also, i took apart another small 3" fan i had and it had a stator of one continuous winding, with 3 iron stators poles on top and 3 offset on bottom. I've never seen a geometry like that. Only problem is, i can't get the stator off and have already done minor damage to it trying to take it off.
    I will be testing more with this other 3" fan. Also, I'm not sure how the lockridge device is supposed to work, since it seems so top secret here, nobody is sharing much details.
    peace love light
    Tyson
    I meant that whole coil assembly is much larger. From your picture of it, it
    looks similar in size to the 3 inch fans. My wiring is not the same as the
    Imhotep small fan setup. It is configured the way instructions were given
    with the fan kit. 2 coils in series as trigger and the other 2 coils in series as
    recovery. Hope that clears things up.

    FRC

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    • Originally posted by **~Imhotep~** View Post
      I have only experimented in placing the output in parallel. And have not tried series yet, but it will be something I will be experimenting with in the future. I will also be trying a 12 volt solar cell I purchased from Harbor Freight and will be posting my results. I will be posting any results as I come to them. As far as charging batteries. I recently charged a Ni-MH AA for about 120 seconds and it lasted 10 hours in a small low current digital clock. It was a cold charge. Everyone's experience will probably vary so take your time and don't be afraid to experiment with charging times. Always take precautions and take a meter and monitor the charging process so you can be safe. I found that one fan running through a large cap, even this small of a fan had high voltage so be careful. But it seems to mirror the load i put it on, in other words if i put it on a 9volt battery it will drop down to the 9volts. I cant really explain why. Please post your results, I'm interested in everyones experience's and data. Ive had very good experiences with this thats why I tried to show how to build this quickly and inexpensively so everyone can try this and share data. As far as putting through a inverter and running a bank of batteries i have not tried that yet. You can charge a 12 volt battery and then take the battery off the fan and run a inverter, that i have tried and got 110. Its all a learning process so please feel free to experiment and let us all know your results. Again please be careful. We hooked this directly up to a small mp3 player and it took it out. So be careful what you connect to it. Luckily it was a junk mp3 player so no loss. But i have charged batteries and placed the batteries in other mp3 players and got the free energy through the charged battery. Its all a learning process and please keep us informed of your progress
      Dear Imhotep or any person who will read my message!
      I have one great idea, but I dont know exactly is it possible or no. That my question - Did somebody tried to connect two or more fans consistently, that get more voltage? My idea: if it possible to get 2 fans or more (self powered) and so we can buy car dc to ac inverter and use for PC (to supply with an energy). Will it work?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDS9qk-Nw4M (this fan)
      Yours faithfully Deniss (Estonia)

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      • Originally posted by Denis26_Narva View Post
        Dear Imhotep or any person who will read my message!
        I have one great idea, but I dont know exactly is it possible or no. That my question - Did somebody tried to connect two or more fans consistently, that get more voltage? My idea: if it possible to get 2 fans or more (self powered) and so we can buy car dc to ac inverter and use for PC (to supply with an energy). Will it work?
        YouTube - Imhotep - Bedini Fan Project Part 1 (this fan)
        Yours faithfully Deniss (Estonia)
        We can get more voltage just by combining output. I don't know if there is a way to make them self running.

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        • Greetings All.

          Thanks for the videos Imhotep.

          I am not very clued up with electronics, but after watching your videos and another one by DadHav called High Voltage Without Power Supply and finally Understanding The Bedini Circuit by Introvertebrate, some thoughts popped into my head.

          Please correct me if I am wrong. The Power Supply needs to be there for the motor to turn. In other words the circuit draws current from that supply. The Charger section charges as long as the Magnets pass the charger coils, regardless of how the motor was spun. In other words if there is no Power Supply, and you turn the motor with a Dremel or by hand, the Charger section supplies voltage to whatever it is connected to.

          As Dadhav also showed, if he puts a capacitor in place of power for the Power Supply connections and he spins it with the dremel, it does charge the capacitor, but the capacitor will dicipate.

          Now having looked at the Understanding the Bedini Circuit Video, I am not able to figure out if Berdini Circuit 1, can be the Power Supply (via the charge spike) for Bedini Circuit 2. (Do they shortcircuit in other words)

          If it could work, the synchronisation to have both circuits running at the same time might find the equilibrium.

          If this works, I have no idea what relation the charge spike has to the power supply. If the charge spike is less than the power supply, then it is a no go, but if it is more (as it increased when DadHav used the mosfet instead of a power supply, then it is an ever increasing voltage.

          Alternatively, if one were to use capacitors that were fed by the other circuits charge spikes, would there be short circuiting?

          If this can work, then we have discovered a perpetual motion machine that can supply voltage.

          Another thing, is there a way to feed the secondary coil (the charge coils) so they have a power source while the magnet has passed them to get a spike out of those coils too?

          Just a thought.

          BlueMental.
          Last edited by BlueMental; 02-07-2011, 04:22 AM.

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          • Originally posted by BlueMental View Post
            Greetings All.
            Another thing, is there a way to feed the secondary coil (the charge coils) so they have a power source while the magnet has passed them to get a spike out of those coils too?

            Just a thought.

            BlueMental.
            Maybe somehow with a commutator arrangement. In one of the Rick Friedrich
            videos for the Bedini fan kits 2 12v are used for for the primaries = 24v and for the charging side one 12v and another unmodified fan is in place of the second battery as a load. However, these kits use a more complex circuit than the Imhotep one, and an inverted circuit is also used to convert the
            negative radiant charge to a positive one. But with the unmodified load fan
            an additional small generator could probably be connected to it. Might be able to get a self running system out of it somehow.

            FRC

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            • Sucahyo

              Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
              We can get more voltage just by combining output. I don't know if there is a way to make them self running.
              Have you tried a self running system with your "Stingo motors" ? There should be some gains with those.

              FRC

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              • Originally posted by FRC View Post
                Have you tried a self running system with your "Stingo motors" ? There should be some gains with those.

                FRC
                Attempt to self charging reduce current draw to half but not negative. So, there is still missing keys for self running.

                Increased source voltage already observed with broken battery. But once the battery get healthy, the effect no longer seen.

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                • Okay, so that is too complex for me to handle.

                  Here is a different angle. People are trying to get HHO self running systems, in other words the HHO cells are produce enough Hydrogen to run the generators, while the generators need to be powerful enough to keep the HHO cell running plus have extra left over for usage. (lights etc.)

                  The problem they are encountering is that the Generators are not strong enough to power an HHO setup that it's motors can run off.

                  So here is a question, what is the reverse torque of a Bendini Motor with no power source?

                  In other words, assuming the spikes can be converted into a usable form of current, how much kickback is there on the revolving stator? If it is much less per amp than it is with a conventional generator, then it would require a smaller generator to drive it. This in turn means that the power needed to run the HHO is less than would be needed for a bigger motor.

                  Thoughts please.

                  BlueMental.

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                  • torque

                    There is not much torque on a Bedini SSG. A Bedini/Cole window motor does have lots of torque. By the sound of things, you should take a look at the Lockridge Device thread. The aim there is to build a self running motor/generator. That is what it sounds like you are interested in.

                    FRC

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                    • ok im new to the forums, and new to electricty. but i know free electricity is more than possible. How bout implementing radio frequencies in your project. Some vids show adding a frequency gives much more power. i could be wrong, please correct me if i am. but this is something that i understood from the guy that built Coral Castle.

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                      • They are here

                        There already are a lot of threads on this forum doing just that. "Joule ringer",
                        "This is it", "Bedini Ferris Wheel" just to name a few. Maybe not conventional
                        radio frequencies, but oscillation and resonance, and you could add in some
                        harmonics to that also.

                        FRC

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                        • Originally posted by FRC View Post
                          There already are a lot of threads on this forum doing just that. "Joule ringer",
                          "This is it", "Bedini Ferris Wheel" just to name a few. Maybe not conventional
                          radio frequencies, but oscillation and resonance, and you could add in some
                          harmonics to that also.

                          FRC
                          Thank you very much. im gona keep searching. After reading some other threads too, i regret not paying as much attention in physics in school lol

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                          • Ssg

                            Don't know where to put this, so putting it here. Well it is fan related.

                            After three failed attempts, and many fried transistors, got
                            an SSG circuit to work. Received some new MLJ21194's in the
                            mail the other day(could not get them locally). My first attempts
                            were with the SSG Five inch fan kit.After rewinding the coils the
                            fan does work in pulse mode. Instead of using the circuit from the
                            kit, I made just the circuit on the Bedini Yahoo group page, without the 25ma bulb, and using a new MJL21194. It did not seem to work when hooked up to the five inch fan. Then I connected the coil (I also have the advanced SSG kit) up to the circuit and I could here the coil oscillate. Then I hooked up the fan to power leads from the coil, it sort of worked. Next I hooked the leads to smaller three inch unmodified computer fans and could get them to run with the right adjustment of the pot. Now the circuit seems to be working in solid state mode alone and is charging the charge battery. Can anyone comment on these results. I am happy to at least have some progress at last.

                            FRC

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                            • Windings for two transistor Fan

                              Does anyone knows how to wind the stator coils if you want to use two transistors - just like the fan kits sold by Rick? I tried to do this by adding another power coil to my existing bifilar coil but no luck, the fan wont work if i use two transistors. i can only make it work if i use only one, BTW im using cap pulser with SCR and diode and also a manual battery swapper (just like Rick). the current draw of my one transistor fan is approx. 230ma but the output current going to the charge battery is only 10ma, this is why it charges the battery very slow. Any help appreciated. TIA

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                              • Do not understand

                                Originally posted by shingot View Post
                                Does anyone knows how to wind the stator coils if you want to use two transistors - just like the fan kits sold by Rick? I tried to do this by adding another power coil to my existing bifilar coil but no luck, the fan wont work if i use two transistors. i can only make it work if i use only one, BTW im using cap pulser with SCR and diode and also a manual battery swapper (just like Rick). the current draw of my one transistor fan is approx. 230ma but the output current going to the charge battery is only 10ma, this is why it charges the battery very slow. Any help appreciated. TIA
                                I do not understand " I tried to do this by adding another power coil to my existing bifilar coil but no luck " With the fan kits you just rewind the coils with a finer guage wire the way they were wound in the first place, or that is what the video says for the kit. Are you using the actual two transistor circuit from the fan kit ? Or is it some other two transistor setup ? Also
                                what size fan are you using ?

                                FRC

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