Free Energy At Last Step By Step Must See

[mbrownn]

Today I created another circuit for a smaller motor. First of all my specs: 2 transistors 2SC2625, Diodes 1N5008, Smaller diodes PR1507. All the components much faster and higher rating compare to original circuit. To power everything I'm using 120 to 12v adapter. Here is a problem. Using a single power supply I connected both motors to the battery (both transistors mounted on the same heat sink). The charging battery started dropping as hell and even going negative. Well I put a separate power supply for a second motor and now it works hmmmmmm. How come a single power supply doesn't work and dischaging "charging battery"? Even by disconnecting Positive power from a second motor, both motors are charging the battery. What's going on? Could it be a smaller motor got coils setups differently but they work fine individually?

I've got 2 pots for each motor and when I parallel both motors then one pot controls both motors and getting them out of sync. Probably for the same reason I can't get both motor to spin together while they are in parallel mode but just by twisting the smaller motor and stopping immediately, it starts oscilating (whistle sound). By using whistle sound from the motor without spinning rotors, I'm able to get exactly double current output and probably higher voltage. Charging battery voltage goes up. Just by using 1 120mm big motor and smaller motor, I'm able to push DC 100ma which is a lot (used Fluke 175). Since I don't have an osciloscope, can someone confirm if oscilating the motor without spinning the rotor gets double the output and correct waveform???

I guess you mean C 0.05 charge rate because C20 charge rate means charging/discharging 20 times more capacity in one hour of the battery capacity. In other words charging/discharging at rate C20 would only take 3 minutes to charge or discharge the battery.



????????? I was aiming for higher current so what you are saying I have to do the whole thing opposite? I wish I had an osciloscope. By any chance can anyone provide an osciloscope graph Current vs Voltage.

It could be that if both transistors are on the same heatsink you have power going from one motor to the other instead of going to the battery. Post your circuit and I will look at it. This would also cause problems like only one motor running at a time.

When you hear the "whistling" sound and the motor does not spin it is self oscillating, it will charge twice as fast but is using twice the current from the supply, this is normal.

C20 is when you charge a battery over 20 hours, c10 is 10 hours etc.

[mbrownn]

I bought several fan already but I can't find a fan that have the metal post. every fan that I took apart are all plastic post and I'm having a hard time putting all of the post. Can someone please tell me what brand of fan should I use to get the one with metal post. thank you

you have to add the fourth post as shown in the video.

[Almaz]

It could be that if both transistors are on the same heatsink you have power going from one motor to the other instead of going to the battery. Post your circuit and I will look at it. This would also cause problems like only one motor running at a time.

When you hear the "whistling" sound and the motor does not spin it is self oscillating, it will charge twice as fast but is using twice the current from the supply, this is normal.

C20 is when you charge a battery over 20 hours, c10 is 10 hours etc.

Dear mbrownn thanks for your help. Before I got your respond I checked heat sink and I found out Collector is a heat sink. In my case I'm not looking to save the power, I'm just trying to build a charger so it doesn't matter how much it draws. Can you please let me know when it is self oscillating and doesn't spin itself, what happens to the output voltage? Does it go up as well as it doubles the current? Also please check this link on the top Battery charger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia because I've been confused myself when I heard C20 rate . I just don't want other people to get confused while reading the forum. By any chance do you have a website or videos that shows your experience using bedini system.
I can't get a big motor to self oscillate to get the most power out of it. Is there anyway possible way to make it self oscillate or should I leave as is by adding a second motor and shorting collectors. In this case a small motor makes big motor to self oscillate but a big motor get a little bit warm/hot side due to increase power.

[Joit]

I finally got the rotor and stator separated. now I don't have a pole on this motor. and I have two wire in one side and another 2 wire on the other side. should I just wrap each wire on the pole that I will make

Errr, it was the Bearing in the middle, when you push it out before, you can easy remove the Stator.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post34210

For the Question, if the Coils should be connected 180° or 90°, at last it worked for me to have 2 Coils at 90° for trigger and 2 as Drive Coils.
__1__
4___2
__3__
where 1+2 are wired as trigger, 3+4 as Drive Coils.

[mbrownn]

Dear mbrownn thanks for your help. Before I got your respond I checked heat sink and I found out Collector is a heat sink. In my case I'm not looking to save the power, I'm just trying to build a charger so it doesn't matter how much it draws. Can you please let me know when it is self oscillating and doesn't spin itself, what happens to the output voltage? Does it go up as well as it doubles the current? Also please check this link on the top Battery charger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia because I've been confused myself when I heard C20 rate . I just don't want other people to get confused while reading the forum. By any chance do you have a website or videos that shows your experience using bedini system.
I can't get a big motor to self oscillate to get the most power out of it. Is there anyway possible way to make it self oscillate or should I leave as is by adding a second motor and shorting collectors. In this case a small motor makes big motor to self oscillate but a big motor get a little bit warm/hot side due to increase power.

The output voltage remains the same as when the motor is running. Yes the C20 term does confuse some people.

No I don't have a web site but i post my findings on this forum and at Imhotep's Lab Interactive FAQ - Index page

Instead of using a motor why not use a large bifilar coil, you can make ist oscillate by placing a magnet on one end

[Almaz]

The output voltage remains the same as when the motor is running. Yes the C20 term does confuse some people.

No I don't have a web site but i post my findings on this forum and at Imhotep's Lab Interactive FAQ - Index page

Instead of using a motor why not use a large bifilar coil, you can make ist oscillate by placing a magnet on one end

Using 2 coils and a magnet sounds very interesting. No moving parts but noise. By any chance do you have any links, info for that setup?

[mbrownn]

This would be a good place to start http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...cillators.html

[cheetoz49r]

finally got it working

I finally built my fan generator. now my problem is I'm not getting more than 2 volts how ever I adjust the potentiameter. am I using the right one please help.

[Joit]

I finally built my fan generator. now my problem is I'm not getting more than 2 volts how ever I adjust the potentiameter. am I using the right one please help.

25 Ohm is maybe a bit low, you may need to adust it further.
Usual you adjust the Fan to the highest Rpm and the lowest mAmpdraw.
Put a Diode with the negative to the Emitter,
connect your Meter to Plus Diode and Plus Source and measure the DC again.
You can try a Cap also there, how high it charges up, but i would start with a 220V or 400 Volt rated Cap. µF are not very importend.

[Almaz]

Is it possible to get any useful information using a Sound Card as Oscilloscope?

What resistor divider would be best to put to use sound card input without frying anything inside?

AC output comes from the collector and after a big diode 1N4007 comes out DC voltage. Diode acts as a rectifier. Is it possible to catch AC spikes using sound card? Sound card is capable to use up to 50khz.

[Joit]

http://www.energeticforum.com/search...earchid=600776

[mbrownn]

I finally built my fan generator. now my problem is I'm not getting more than 2 volts how ever I adjust the potentiameter. am I using the right one please help.

How are you measuring 2v and where? 2v above the charging battery voltage is fine.

Sorry to disagree Joit, maybe I misunderstand something. Correct me if I have.

The resistance of the coils is fine and lower works better. I have used coils of 7 ohms with no problem but you may need a higher trigger resistance. Adjust the fan till you hear the coils, the speed will be much lower than the normal running speed

[mbrownn]

OOOps sorry i did misunderstand you are talking about the pot

I should not post when I have had a few beers

Using a computer sound card for a scope is risky with this energy.

[Joit]

OOOps sorry i did misunderstand you are talking about the pot

I should not post when I have had a few beers

Using a computer sound card for a scope is risky with this energy.

No sorry, until you share one from your Beers with me .

Yes, it was about the Pot, i measured mine once, and i got it mostly around 200 ohms min,
that is because of the Resistance from the Coil and the Impedance, what sums up.
I try to be with the Coils over 10 Ohms resistance, but with the Fans is this no Problem, they are all at around 60 ohms.
Lesser is possible, but i got then problems to adjust them, when they have to less Resistance.

[cheetoz49r]

25 Ohm is maybe a bit low, you may need to adust it further.
Usual you adjust the Fan to the highest Rpm and the lowest mAmpdraw.
Put a Diode with the negative to the Emitter,
connect your Meter to Plus Diode and Plus Source and measure the DC again.
You can try a Cap also there, how high it charges up, but i would start with a 220V or 400 Volt rated Cap. µF are not very importend.

when I get the fan running and trying to adjust my potentiameter the fan speed up but my neon light will not turn on. So I connected my voltmeter to the charging end to see what is going on. when I turn the potentiameter when the fan speed up the volt goes up to 2 volts. I already have a diode to the emitter but I haven't try the cap yet I will try that next thank you