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[harctan]

So I was messing around with my fan trying out different things and I got it to self oscillate without the fan rotating as many others have reported before. It happened when I replaced the emitter-base diode from a 1n4007 to a 1n4148. At first the fan spins but as i increase the base resistance the fan stops but the coils keep oscillating. Then I can remove the fan and i can increase the resistance all the way to 10k and it still oscillates although it becomes silent. And it only works with the charge battery connected. The weird part though is that it only works with one particular transistor. NOT one type of transistor (I only use 2N3055 anyway) but one in particular from the 4 identical I tried.Go figure.

[harctan]

And the weirdness continues! I hooked the ssg circuit from the fan to my little monopole motor (skateboard wheel with 4 ceramic magnets). I tried all 5 transistors I had (2N3055),both used and brand new, while keeping all other components exactly the same. The same transistor that can make my fan self-oscillate is the same that works best on the monopole. It is the only one from the 5 transistors that can work with 470 Ohms base resistance and above and produce purple flashes on the neon. The rest need much less base resistance to keep the wheel rotating and only produce orange neon light. Any thoughts on this?

[harctan]

Ok, I looked at the transistors closer and realised that the one that does the "magic" is the only one that survived from the first batch that I bought some months back (the one on the right). The rest I bought later and from a different shop (at half the price). It looks like although they are supposed to be identical they differ somewhat and that makes a noticable impact on the system. I think it's time i visited that first shop again.

[Guruji]

Yes, after 6 to 10 cycles you wont see much more improvement. To be honest I have never had good experiences with sealed gel batteries. I stick to the old fashioned ones you have to top up with distilled water.

Try to add a little distilled water to Sealed gel batts. I did this and seemed that they're began behaving better.

[mbrownn]

Try to add a little distilled water to Sealed gel batts. I did this and seemed that they're began behaving better.

yes adding distilled water helps

[mbrownn]

Ok, I looked at the transistors closer and realised that the one that does the "magic" is the only one that survived from the first batch that I bought some months back (the one on the right). The rest I bought later and from a different shop (at half the price). It looks like although they are supposed to be identical they differ somewhat and that makes a noticable impact on the system. I think it's time i visited that first shop again.

Maybe its the quality of the parts, I can only get cheap Chinese parts and some transistors work better than others but if i run my Bedini without a charging battery the the good transistors start to perform like the not so good ones. maybe they get partially damaged by the high voltage.

[streamingindie]

Respect and promotion with brass spheres

I have a project that is going to be very public.
I would like to share this with you and refer your work and possibly give you funds for assembly of your chargers to support your research and do a fundraiser at the same time.

Check out the video on youtube here
Around the World on 80 watts 1 - YouTube
and let me know if I can get approval for your work, if you want the quick assembly fee I am planning and of course I would welcome any collaboration you are willing to engage.

This will be as big as we as a group decide to make it and in the video above I am showing my intent for full credit of innovators like you and this message shows my intent to share any profits that are made with your ideas and work.
It is a rough video yet as I need to give more details for the intent and execution of the Webseries and the ships logs. Let me know what you think. Of course I will take the video down immediately if you ask.
Respectfully
Streamingindie

[streamingindie]

Additional note.

As an aside to this. The video is not to be the final release and is kept unlisted.

I had to use the build on this thread to recover my demo battery and had some rather strange occurrences with the noisy charger. It did however run for over a week on a 18 volt drill battery but wouldn't properly charge other drill batteries of the same type. (obviously a discussion for a different thread.)

My sincerest hope is that we can actually rally some efforts together and create a platform to reveal the truths of working technologies and by trial and test show practical solutions to larger problems.

I want to support the innovators and inventors socially and financially and will use any links to kits endorsed by the creators of those same devices as the proper terminals direct me to.

I believe that Mr Bedini and others here deserve a great deal more of both, and feel the same for you Imhotep, as yours was the first design I was able to make work and has that "Off the shelf practicality" that I needed to go from reader and researcher to builder and tester.

Again, Thank you.
Notes from any other members are welcome.

[mbrownn]

I think the reason for no one replying is your request for funds, its not really in the spirit of the thread or Imhoteps gift to us.

The IRO is an excellent device and is great for learning and recovering batteries but is a free gift to the people.

Try this one and then compare it to what you have then start a thread on it Circuit Simulator Applet

[streamingindie]

I think the reason for no one replying is your request for funds, its not really in the spirit of the thread or Imhoteps gift to us.

The IRO is an excellent device and is great for learning and recovering batteries but is a free gift to the people.

Try this one and then compare it to what you have then start a thread on it Circuit Simulator Applet

This was not a request for funds.
I am not asking anyone to fund it from here.
I will obtain the funds myself and plan to pay for assembly and handling of the simple circuit.
I have already worked out all the logistics but wanted to bring the plan to this community.
If however the members here are all too beaten down by the ignorant and see my proposal as some money grubbing venture then the usefulness of this forum is only to accumulate data and I will just go on without you.

The free gift to the people is beyond most to assemble, simple as it is and I think it is the perfect device to bring the concept of radiant energy to the masses but hasn't penetrated the society to the degree to make a difference.
I had hoped that people here would be more interested in exposition. I do plan to give the information broadly but am trying to create a place to make something that will take the purpose to the next level.

So don't put me in the category of the cleptocracy that has a grip on mankind.
I am actually offended.

[mbrownn]

I apologize, I do not wish to offend, I'm simply pointing out a reason why there has been little response.

There has been many occasions where the work of members of this and other forums has been exploited, some of them have even had their ideas patented by others preventing them using their own device. Sad but true.

I agree that it is an under used technology and it is true that most people would not attempt to build such a device.

Did you take a look at the circuit I posted? It is a variant of the simple IRO which has been said to be more efficient. There are many such improvements that have been posted on this and other forums along with electronic variants such as the SG and SSG by John Bedini. The SSG by John Bedini is the simplest of these and is what this thread is about and using a computer fan to do it. The device is patented by the inventor but we are free to build one for our own use.

[streamingindie]

I apologize, I do not wish to offend, I'm simply pointing out a reason why there has been little response.

There has been many occasions where the work of members of this and other forums has been exploited, some of them have even had their ideas patented by others preventing them using their own device. Sad but true.

I agree that it is an under used technology and it is true that most people would not attempt to build such a device.

Did you take a look at the circuit I posted? It is a variant of the simple IRO which has been said to be more efficient. There are many such improvements that have been posted on this and other forums along with electronic variants such as the SG and SSG by John Bedini. The SSG by John Bedini is the simplest of these and is what this thread is about and using a computer fan to do it. The device is patented by the inventor but we are free to build one for our own use.

I did and am digging into my own parts to test it out.
Thank you for understanding. the very last thing I want to be associated with is the type of exploitation you mentioned.
I want to create new attention and use the links to the actual inventor's products to get people to buy and support them.
By showing devices working in a high production value televised or high end (looking) web series I believe we can lend more credibility to the efforts of all.

That is why I brought this here.
I really am here to serve.
Bring attention.
Bring value.
Bring change.

Thank you for your response.

[Khwartz]

This was not a request for funds.
I am not asking anyone to fund it from here.
I will obtain the funds myself and plan to pay for assembly and handling of the simple circuit.
I have already worked out all the logistics but wanted to bring the plan to this community.
If however the members here are all too beaten down by the ignorant and see my proposal as some money grubbing venture then the usefulness of this forum is only to accumulate data and I will just go on without you.

The free gift to the people is beyond most to assemble, simple as it is and I think it is the perfect device to bring the concept of radiant energy to the masses but hasn't penetrated the society to the degree to make a difference.
I had hoped that people here would be more interested in exposition. I do plan to give the information broadly but am trying to create a place to make something that will take the purpose to the next level.

So don't put me in the category of the cleptocracy that has a grip on mankind.
I am actually offended.

Hi! I'm agree with you: there is a need to create the reality in large public that "radiant energy" exists and can be used.

I think even like a decorative funny desk object runing by itself could do that, if with a enough powerful fan that poeple could notice that it couldn't run indefinetely like this is the battery wouldn't be charged back itself continuously.

Regards.

[harctan]

Ok, so I have converted 4 different fans and after numerous tests my results so far have been ranging from average to poor. I have tried tuning them using different methods: with neon brightness, coil noise, highest charging voltage and finally highest speed to amp draw ratio using a tachometer. I have ran the fans from a pc power supply at 12V or 24V and at currents ranging from 30mA to 200mA. Test batteries are two conditioned 12V 1.3Ah sealed lead-acid. As a load I use a 12V 50mA light bulb. I will drain the battery using the light bulb down to a certain voltage (e.g. 12.00V), then let it rest. Afterwards I charge it with the fan for several hours, then let it rest. Finally I discharge it again using the same load down to the same voltage (12.00V in this example). During charge-discharge I monitor volts and amperes along with the time and so calculate watt-hours in and watt-hours out. I divide the two to get the charging efficiency. So far the best I have achieved is about 50% and that was at solid state self-oscillating mode with a slave coil parallel to the power coil. With the fan rotating it's far less at 20-30%. Nowhere near the almost 1:1 ratio (90%+ charge efficiency). I also tried cycling the batteries, using one as power source to charge the other and then swapping, but the results were the same. I don't know if I'm missing something here but I'm running short on ideas. Any input on this?

[mbrownn]

Ok, so I have converted 4 different fans and after numerous tests my results so far have been ranging from average to poor. I have tried tuning them using different methods: with neon brightness, coil noise, highest charging voltage and finally highest speed to amp draw ratio using a tachometer. I have ran the fans from a pc power supply at 12V or 24V and at currents ranging from 30mA to 200mA. Test batteries are two conditioned 12V 1.3Ah sealed lead-acid. As a load I use a 12V 50mA light bulb. I will drain the battery using the light bulb down to a certain voltage (e.g. 12.00V), then let it rest. Afterwards I charge it with the fan for several hours, then let it rest. Finally I discharge it again using the same load down to the same voltage (12.00V in this example). During charge-discharge I monitor volts and amperes along with the time and so calculate watt-hours in and watt-hours out. I divide the two to get the charging efficiency. So far the best I have achieved is about 50% and that was at solid state self-oscillating mode with a slave coil parallel to the power coil. With the fan rotating it's far less at 20-30%. Nowhere near the almost 1:1 ratio (90%+ charge efficiency). I also tried cycling the batteries, using one as power source to charge the other and then swapping, but the results were the same. I don't know if I'm missing something here but I'm running short on ideas. Any input on this?

Those are the worst result I have ever heard of, not good at all. To diagnose your problem I will need a few questions answering.

What is the resistance of your coils?

How high does the voltage go when charging? For a 12v lead acid expect 14.4, if it is lead calcium it will be higher, 15+. If you are using gel cells they typically fail if they have been overcharged for any length of time.

What type of batteries are you using?

As far as I am aware, the high charging efficiency is only on lead acid/calcium type batteries and won't be on zinc carbon or nicad.

If the batteries are still recovering from being sulphated, the charge efficiency will be low like you describe but the recovery will only take a few cycles if you drive the voltage up to the maximum charge voltage.