Free Energy At Last Step By Step Must See

[Guruji]

If you have two 12v batteries being charged in parallel the voltage of one will not match exactly the voltage of the other so the diodes prevent one battery discharging into the other. when one battery is full you can take it off while letting the other continue to charge, that way you stop boiling the full battery.

I tried this yes all batteries charge on there own.
Thanks for sharing.

[wulff]

I built a project very similar to this about 4-5 year ago but I used a hard drive platter/bearing assembly with small magnets around the outside edge equally spaced (I balanced it so very little effort was needed to spin it) I forget what I used as a coil assembly to finish up the motor but the principal was the same.
At the time I was on a website that was started by the 'discoverer' of this effect (in it's current form).
Anyway when I was experimenting with it I discovered something very unusual that defies any logical explanation (at least no physics I know of).
Here is what happened:
It was at night and it was running in a back room, as the motor was turning very slowly (as it had been running for hours) I walked down the hall and could see the neon lamp was glowing but for some reason I got curious about this so completely darkened up the room and the neon lamp went out.
As soon as I turned on a small flashlight the neon lamp went on! I put my hand over the flashlight and the lamp remained on (just the light shining through my skin was apparently reaching it) I turned off the flashlight and the neon lamp went off again.
The room was totally dark as it had blackout cloth under the curtains, so I stumbled over to the window and this was about 15 feet from the device and I pulled back the edge of the drapes, there was no moon or outside light visible coming in but the lamp went back on! No matter how little the drapes were opened whatever light (I couldn't even see) came into the room would apparently 'excite' the neon and cause it to light! I spent the whole evening experimenting with this phenomena and hooked up a filament lamp to a power supply with a variable output and was shocked to notice the neon lamp came on even before I could detect any light from the incandescent filament!
Maybe this isn't that unusual but I was shocked at how little light could cause the neon to excite to the point of glowing!
This maybe wasn't related to the circuit but I have worked with NE2 lamps for years and have never seen one behave like that.
Just thought I would share this interesting night!

[pmazz850]

Can anyone tell me how to get the stator off without breaking anything? I cant find any info on it. I already broke one. I dont want to break the next one. Thanks!

[Farmhand]

Can anyone tell me how to get the stator off without breaking anything? I cant find any info on it. I already broke one. I dont want to break the next one. Thanks!

I found some broke on me too. Where did you'rs break ? From memory I think
I tried warming it up in the sunshine then by grabbing the stator with as many
fingers as I could and turn it while pulling. I think that worked to loosen and
remove some. Try to put pressure only directly on the center of the poles or
the they can bend or break.

Some are glued, like with heat or something, like (bonded) and some are kinda
a bit threaded and screwed on. Some are impossible.

The most difficult and painfull thing I found with fan conversions is soldering
the tiny wire to a new pin inbedded in plastic, it kept melting the plastic.

The best fan I found was a 70 mm Thermaltake High speed fan it has
only one (1) fairly thick wire which is wound on all four poles in series. I just
cut the wire so that each piece spanned two poles and there was some left
on the negative end of coil near the cut, this is important because the
negative can't be unwound a turn to get length. So I cut the wire close to
the coil where the wire is on the outside, this left some wire coming out from
the inside (negative end) of the coil before it.

Then I could unwind a turn or two from the coil I cut next to, because the
cut end is on the outside of the coil. It's difficult to explain and only
applicable to the single winding series fans. I can draw a picture if anyone
wants it.

Cheers

[Joit]

For the Stator on simple Fans,
There is inside the Metal bearing, this Iron Tube.
You can push it in a Direction, not sure in which, with a Hammer and a small screwdriver, its something like a lock, where the Stator is mounted at.
When you hit it out, the Stator can be easy removed.

[ashleyrain]

Can anyone tell me how to get the stator off without breaking anything? I cant find any info on it. I already broke one. I dont want to break the next one. Thanks!

I broke 3 of my 4 fan. Actually the 3 are not working, and finally my last 1 make it work. YEHEY!!!

I just realized that not all computer fan will work on Bedini-Imhotep fan.

[oceanswestbc]

Feeling lost in the circuit maze?

Do you have a dream of building an awesome SSG circuit
but don't have much in the way of 'electrical skills'..

Don't be discouraged; John Bedini & Renaissance Charge have already begun
selling an entire lineup of commercial grade pulse-charging
products based on his ground-breaking patent.

I own two Renaissance chargers; a 12v charger rated up to
deep-cycle marine and also a Universal charger rated from
AAA to Motorcycle <Ni-cd, NiMH, Lead-acid>

[syborfical]

Has any one got a drawing. The video is a bit crap.

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Instead of explaining how to build the machine, why not explain how this machine makes free energy? Last time I checked, all this machine does is move electrons and some of those electrons will be converted to photons or kinetic energy during this process. So are any electrons created during this process to make up for the energy converted to kinetic energy or photons?

[mbrownn]

Instead of explaining how to build the machine, why not explain how this machine makes free energy? Last time I checked, all this machine does is move electrons and some of those electrons will be converted to photons or kinetic energy during this process. So are any electrons created during this process to make up for the energy converted to kinetic energy or photons?

It doesn't. The "free" energy appears in the charging battery due to the way it is charged.

Don't know where you got that from.

I doubt anything is created during the charging process other than potential.

Maybe it would be an Idea for you to read the thread from the start.

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It doesn't. The "free" energy appears in the charging battery due to the way it is charged.

Don't know where you got that from.
I doubt anything is created during the charging process other than potential.
Maybe it would be an Idea for you to read the thread from the start.

I don't need to read how this machine needs to be built because I know for a fact that whatever the configuration it has will never be a perpetual motion machine.

Here is my reasoning, please show me which number is incorrect.

1. The amount of electrons going in the battery must be greater than the amount of electrons going out of the battery.

2. No electrons are created out of nothing during this process.

3. Since no electrons are created in this machine, the electrons must come from existing sources in the universe.

4. Because electrons are both waves and particles, they randomly choose where to be, they can be in many places at the same time, and you cannot control exactly where an electron goes.
Quantum Measurement : Research : Research & Development : Hitachi Global

5. Any process in gathering electrons will fail due to randomness and due to the probability of electrons arranging in a chaotic order to be probabilistically higher than electrons arranging in a certain order. This is because there are far more configurations of electrons in a chaotic order than a specific type.

The chances of shuffling a random deck of cards and getting an arranged deck are far less likely than an unordered deck because the amount of configurations for an unordered deck are much higher than an arranged one.

[mbrownn]

I will do my best to answer but I am no quantum mechanic.

I don't need to read how this machine needs to be built because I know for a fact that whatever the configuration it has will never be a perpetual motion machine.

True, because all devices break down.

[/QUOTE]Here is my reasoning, please show me which number is incorrect.

1. The amount of electrons going in the battery must be greater than the amount of electrons going out of the battery.[/QUOTE]

I believe this to be false, In normal electricity the number of electrons leaving a battery is the same as what returns. What changes in a battery is the way things are arranged ie it is chemical. Only the potential is lost.

[/QUOTE]2. No electrons are created out of nothing during this process.[/QUOTE]

True because of my previous statement

[/QUOTE]3. Since no electrons are created in this machine, the electrons must come from existing sources in the universe.[/QUOTE]

False because of my reply to No1

[/QUOTE]4. Because electrons are both waves and particles, they randomly choose where to be, they can be in many places at the same time, and you cannot control exactly where an electron goes.[/QUOTE]

I think this refers to photons

[/QUOTE]5. Any process in gathering electrons will fail due to randomness and due to the probability of electrons arranging in a chaotic order to be probabilistically higher than electrons arranging in a certain order. This is because there are far more configurations of electrons in a chaotic order than a specific type. [/QUOTE]

Probably false, because of my last statement. I believe electrons to be a commodity similar to atoms

[/QUOTE]The chances of shuffling a random deck of cards and getting an arranged deck are far less likely than an unordered deck because the amount of configurations for an unordered deck are much higher than an arranged one.[/QUOTE]

True

This is all to do with radiant energy theory. I believe that atoms are made up of protons, neutrons and electrons and they are made up of quarks. quarks and photons are made up of radiant "particles". I use particles for want of a better term.

I do my best to explain what radiant or the aether might be here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post164201

The radiant must rearrange the chemical changes in the battery allowing the potential to return. I don't know enough about this to explain how it does it but, it is a fact that the battery charges without current. There is exactly the same amount of stuff in a dead battery as a charged one, its just how it is arranged, that is the difference and that is chemical changes.

As far as I am aware, none of the devices that show overunity create anything. The only thing that happens is a movement is induced in something that already exists.

Its like if we have two pieces of ferrite on a table nothing happens but if they were magnets and were close enough they would snap together doing work. We didn't do anything to the magnets, they did that work themselves.

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True, because all devices break down.

No, it's true because perpetual machines do not exist.

I believe this to be false, In normal electricity the number of electrons leaving a battery is the same as what returns. What changes in a battery is the way things are arranged ie it is chemical. Only the potential is lost.

Copper wire doesn't contain every single electron passing through itself. Lithium batteries also "wear out" after a number of cycles.

I think this refers to photons

No, I was referring to electrons. Also protons, atoms, and even carbon 60 molecules have been shown to exhibit wave-particle duality.

The radiant must rearrange the chemical changes in the battery allowing the potential to return. I don't know enough about this to explain how it does it but, it is a fact that the battery charges without current. There is exactly the same amount of stuff in a dead battery as a charged one, its just how it is arranged, that is the difference and that is chemical changes.

The positive charge is caused by atom/molecules lacking electrons and a negative charge is caused by an atom/molecules having too many electrons.

As far as I am aware, none of the devices that show overunity create anything. The only thing that happens is a movement is induced in something that already exists.

Its like if we have two pieces of ferrite on a table nothing happens but if they were magnets and were close enough they would snap together doing work. We didn't do anything to the magnets, they did that work themselves.

In a sense they do not do any work. The kinetic energy of both cancel each other out. A ball pushing on the ground due to gravity does no work. If two equal magnets hit each other, the result is almost nothing because the movement is canceled out.

If you take two balls that weigh 100lbs each and move them toward each other at 5mph, when they hit they'll produce some air vibration and heat, but all that movement stops.

Look at this perpetual motion machine, it uses rubber bands.

Perpetual motion machine - YouTube

[mbrownn]

No, it's true because perpetual machines do not exist.



Copper wire doesn't contain every single electron passing through itself. Lithium batteries also "wear out" after a number of cycles.



No, I was referring to electrons. Also protons, atoms, and even carbon 60 molecules have been shown to exhibit wave-particle duality.



The positive charge is caused by atom/molecules lacking electrons and a negative charge is caused by an atom/molecules having too many electrons.



In a sense they do not do any work. The kinetic energy of both cancel each other out. A ball pushing on the ground due to gravity does no work. If two equal magnets hit each other, the result is almost nothing because the movement is canceled out.

If you take two balls that weigh 100lbs each and move them toward each other at 5mph, when they hit they'll produce some air vibration and heat, but all that movement stops.

Look at this perpetual motion machine, it uses rubber bands.

Perpetual motion machine - YouTube

1) Agreed, but overunity does. A good example is an air-conditioning unit. we put 1hp of electricity in and get around 6 to 10 hp of heat out. The total system displays unity if all inputs and outputs are considered but we, in this case, are only comparing our input with one of the outputs. All the overunity devices I have seen take an input from the environment to give an output bigger than what WE put in.

2) if copper has additional electrons it has a negative charge and if some electrons are pulled out it is positively charged. Running current through it does not necessarily change its charge because as 1 electron enters another leaves. Li ion batteries are chemical batteries just the same as lead acid batteries. If any electrons were consumed in the circuit the battery would loose electrons and therefore become positively charged. As this does not happen we can assume no significant change in the number of electrons in the battery occurs.

3) Once you go deep enough into quantum mechanics you realize that the things we talk about in high school science are not what we were told they were and things don't work in the ways we thought they did. For my models I consider the electron to be a particle of sorts. I know this is not the full story but it works in most cases. Remember electrical theory is just that, a theory. The best theory fits all the facts but for most people theories have to be simplified so that we understand. Remember some people still believe 19 hijackers out of a cave, were able to defeat the greatest military of all time and collapse three buildings in a fashion that resembled explosive demolition with two airplanes .

4) I believe ions cause the difference in potential in a chemical battery but it remains neutral as far as electron content so what moved out must have been replaced overall.

5) From what I understand about magnets they have force but no energy, it is only when they exhibit movement on themselves or another body that energy manifests ie work done. It is also interesting to note that a permanent magnet in a motor is capable of producing much more mechanical energy than what was spent electrically to produce the magnet in the first place. An interesting concept don't you think?

If we can exploit this effect in a motor then we have to explain where the extra energy comes from. I am working to exploit this effect but as yet have not been successful.

Our debate is not really relevant to the Imhotep devices so this isn't the place the debate it.

Have you tried building the fan? I think you should. Once you have it running as instructed you can carry out some tests and explain what you think is happening. I built and tested it for 3 years and was not able to explain how it did what it did without it having a second input from the environment. As I isolated it from other electrical and radio inputs, I had to conclude the source was not one that I expected. I then tried many configurations and discovered the negative energy effects that many have talked about.

Aether or radiant energy theory is best able to explain these observations. If you have a different theory I am all ears but it has to fit all the facts about what is happening. My basic fan drew 80mA at 12.7v with an output to the charging battery of 3mA or less. The spikes were about 1 to 2v above the charging battery voltage at most but lowered as the battery charged, by the time the supply battery was depleted (11.2v) the charging battery was full 12.7v. By switching the batteries round and repeating the test multiple times it was possible to detect an effective loss of around 3 to 5 % During all this time the fan was running with a low efficiency of 20 to 30% so we have a COP of 115 to 127%. There were other outputs too that I did not count such as heat etc. I suspect if all outputs and losses were calculated the COP would be 2 meaning that just as much energy came out of the environment as I put in.

It this effect caused by the radiant or is it a magnetic effect similar to what I proposed earlier, maybe it is both.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi, I'd just cease the so called debate with this REPLACED, replaced by what, an energy that seeks to twist words into the reality of fake lack.
Gee, isn't that story getting old folks, maybe not for some that can't wake up to reality, which is all love and abundance.
Just because one may look out in the world and see lack in some form, does not mean that is the whole story and certainly not the only dream we can live.

I will again be ultra simplistic with this analogy, because I think it is christmas related and is the easiest for folks to grasp and is also related to energy devices.
Everyone on this forum and in the world for that matter, would not be here to tap away on their keyboards, let alone think about causing harm to another embodied soul, if it were not for the example we were given by our parents.

No I don't mean the slavery they continue to have to endure to provide for their children, I mean the closest example of unconditional love that exists at this time and that is between a parent and the child.
Now what is missing from the equation, the relationship between these so called elite powers and the rest of humanity.
That is what needs to be healed, it's almost akin to the wayward teenager leaving home and becoming the wild child, though in this case, these wild child's have systems built that give them way too much control over all our lives and then yes, these naughty boys and girls stage things like 911 and many other nasty events.
They need love and tender care, like we all do, whether some will admit that or not and pretend they are all strong and mighty and don't need others love and caring, BALONY.
Who makes all the food for those that would harbor hate for others, or would wish and carry out harm to others.
Can you folks see, these ones and accomplices doing harmful things to life here have forgot that they are not and can never be separate from other human beings and all life for that matter.
Yet they persist in trying to pretend that by destroying their mother, in it's various forms from the human mother, to the earth mother, that somehow they can believe in their own denial of the oneness of all life.

All I have is love and compassion for those that have lost their way and forgotten who and what they are and I call upon the universe to awaken all to the truth, that we are all of the same energy consciousness pretending to be separate in this game called, human life.
And with this, the healing of the world shall be accomplished in the blink of an eye and true love, true compassion, true abundance, true joy, true peace, true freedom, true creativity will be the way of life forever more.
peace love light
tyson