Electric car charging idea

[Samemf]

Hi guys ,

I was just thinking today as I was working and day dreaming in the sydney
morning traffic on the m5 LOL

With electric cars and guys converting to ev's the charging and milage they get out of each charge at the moment is limited .

I know that new lithiums will be better but very expensive ,
I was thinking of an idea that

couldnt a car be designed to run on one set of batteries while the other set was being recharged via bedini style magnetic rotor setups on the wheels .

With a pulsed style charge it would really load down the car at all , and with a battery swapper setup like marts doing , would that really double the milage ?

just an idea .

Sam
ps
Can you legally convert a car to electric in sydney and register it ?
Where can one get the criteria to pass rego etc..

[theremart]

RE: Battery on car.

There is an excellent set of Youtube videos of a guy who converted his car to be electric.

YouTube - cant7think7clearly's Channel

I was thinking..... with an electric car why have a battery that could just snap into the car? Then you have two sets of batteries one at home charging while you are using the on in the car, or have a midpoint between your locations you travel where you swap out to another battery.

I have been thinking along these lines myself, was considering using used motor oil to burn to power a steam generator, to charge batteries with an solid state SSG. I have found some excellent burners for the oil to do this.
And I have 2 steam engine designs that I think would work, I just need to get some videos and read up on running steam engines.

I do not have the place to run a steam boiler, but when and if I move to Florida I will be looking for a place that I can.

[Chip Shorter]

Your suggestion isn't a bad idea at all. Everyone I know with an electric car is racking their brains trying to come up with a way to boost range. Since starting and stopping a car is a waste of energy I propose using some sort of regenerative braking be it alternators or flywheels to store energy used in braking.

[Redmeanie]

I think about this everytime I see Those Rims that keep spinning while the car is at a stop light. (They are real big around here for some reason). I imagine they could be turned into flywheels and used the same way.

[ashtweth]

Mart what a link.

I know a guy locally to me, who has a patent which is a wheel with samaloy core less coils and magnets, every time the wheel turns there is BEMF and his system is called the B.E.C.S (Battery electronic control system).

He made a scooter for his daughter, here is where it gets interesting, for every action he gets the same charge back his lab got broken into , and GE flew into see him and said we cant market that we would go broke.

True story, he build RV circuits for us all and other things , i have his patent, just think of an EV with magnets in the WHEEL, as you drive you generate BEMF.

If you build it properly, for every where you drive you get the same back, he has alrady built it, he is very cautious now about showing it.

Ash

[Samemf]

guys thanks for responses fantastic ,

Yes thats exactly what i was thinking , backemf / bedini style pulses to charge , ie half the battreries , one set runs the car , other set is being pulsed via magnets in the rims and coils ( or around hubs ) , when the
primary battery reaches certain voltage a battery swapper (marts success replications style) would swap the run batteries and the other charges etc..

yes I think If we can make a scooter or something first to test this out .

first without to see range , and then with this implemented ....

The idea of being charged with pulses would take the drag out the situation wouldnt it ? ,
I mean if we were to put normal winmill design style generators on the wheels
this would produce drag in charg state , but pulsed with high bedini syle it wouldnt right ?


Btw you guys seen the compressed air cars on youtube yet ?

hey Jetijs were you doing something like this at all ? (compressed air ) .

Sam

[Aaron]

samaloy?

Hi Ash,

What's the patent #? Sounds incredible!

[Lemontree]

if you are thinking about building the electric car, and the idea, of course, is worth it, you must consider using Peter Lindemann attraction motor - something like Jetijs have built, and some other members, - look in "electric motor secrets" page. so, this motor can eat less electricity, compared to conventional electric motor, even till 70% less! this means greater mileage

also, you must buy relaitvely light, small car, maybe some sports car, with very good aerodinamics, you can seek for car with damaged engine, car damaged by flooding and so on, so you can get it for cheap, and not pay for elements what you dont need - like fuel engine, even all electric wiring are not needed. just wheelbase, stearing, interior and body.

good luck!
remember, that even ordinary electric car, are much more economical than fuel car, so if your daily mileage ar not above ~200km (or maybe 400-500 when using P.Lindemanns atraction (NO BACK EMF) motor) you can drive for 3-4 times cheaper (or 8 times), than with a fuel car!

and, there is also another important thing - the great ideas, plans must be just done, not prepared long years in mind, but just done, started in this same evening, ending some weeks later, but the worst thing is to speak about them all time, and not doing anything by hands for real progress

[vzon17]

Bedini car

eah that would be a nice thing. if you had a vehicle with a drive shaft just put a bunch of magnets and coils around that as it spins faster than thte wheels.

On another note there is a guy in canada that has designed a genetare motor that provides little or no drag like conventional ones do so if you had one of these on the wheels then it would charge batteries without creating drag on the wheels or whatever rotating part you hook it too.

MullerPower.com ... Bill Muller Motor/Generator

I like Tom Beardens idea for battery charging. There is a way to charge a battery by pushing the positive ions due to their much higher inertia than the electrons you can push them the opposite way that they go to discharge the battery while you are using the battery. The way it maight work is to have a huge capacitor hooked to the battery. then yau have a circuit that interupts the battery circuit to the capacitor atnd then gives a high frequency jolt to the battery to bump the ions. then you reconnect the battery to the capacitor to continue providing power. out of the capacitor an the load side you would only see a continuos output to the lod as the capacitor smoothes the interupted current from the battery out. so you can drive your car around and at the same time charge the batteries by bumping the ions backwards. all you need is the circuit and the capacitor. the frequency of the ions is up in the meghertz range somewhere.

[rip]

I am new to this forum and frankly still learning (by reading a lot) and in my opinion I imagine that just running a bedini motor will not be enough. Peter has said before that the bedini motor is meant to be highly effecient (collecting bEMF) but will not generate a lot of torque. He had recommended researching other motors. Ones that are not as effecient but still had a decent amount of mechanical work available. But I've always wondered why not combine the two.

Let's say run a parallel path motor (Flynn motor) and couple it with a bedini plusing engine. The Flynn side would generate the torque a lot better while not using a lot of energy while you have the bedini circuit and battery swapper controling the charging system. Of course this would make it more complex as you are running two different motors (with a common crankshaft).

FYI the tesla roadster uses approx 147KW of power. I wonder if a hybrid system like this would be possible. Any thoughts?

Thanks
Rip

[ren]

Hi Sam, I didnt know you lived in Australia

Gotta love that M5.

I have seen a few people who have converted their cars to electric here, so it is do-able. Id imagine you'd need an engineers certificate and an auto electrics thumbs up.