Electric Motor Secrets

[Robert49]

Hi everyone,

As Peter Lindemann suggested, I'm having my rotor modified. The actual gap
was .012 inch and the goal is to get as close to .002 as possible. I will use the same shaft for now (short on money).
The motor was already quite strong so I expect it to be very very strong after this modification.
I also tryed something crazy: I connected the recuperation diodes to the center tap of a variac, connecting one end of the variac to the motor and the other to the cap bank. I then ran the motor at 200 volt and with the proper adjustment the motor was drawing 800ma and was still very strong.

Anyway here's my new circuit with pulse width control which should make the motor more efficient. I include the board top layout .

Thanks for reading.

Robert

[Blargus]

Thanks a lot Robert for posting your updates.

[Robert49]

Sorry

I just deleted the board layout for there was a major error.

Here is the new one.

Robert

[Robert49]

New Rotor

Hi guys.

Today, my friend Markus machined a new rotor for me.
The gap is now about .0025 inch
The motor is running twice the speed with quite a bit more torque.
I'm waiting for 2 spring scales ordered on the net. As soon as I get them, I will do the dynamometer test and post the results.


Robert

[that_prophet]

I would like this to be truly free energy
As in, free of any patent or copy write fees
So, I only want this technology entered
If it can still be freely used by all
I do not want anybody to claim ownership

Free Energy is such an obviously simplistic discovery,
- as well as being extremely free + easy to produce,
what is the only reason for us missing this basic idea,
- we have been dumb to this free energy technology .

This technology has been hidden for far too long,
Please, go to this website
Search free-energy + yolasite
Or if this website allows URLs
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then you may want to try your hand at producing a digital prototype
on one of the many free electronic simulator software’s out there,
that will help quick start the production of electric toys + tools,
and how about everything that runs on electricity,
being reproduced with GEM, free energy power supplies, built into them.

Let's restart our economies,
by building industries that reproduce all of our electronics,
so that they are all self powered. (non polluting)

= First though, is getting rid of all the gasoline motors in our motorized vehicles,
and putting a GEM in them.

All we need to do, is have enough faith in His Word
to build these GEM (Good Electricity Multiplier) Miracle motor

THIS DOES INDEED WORK
(think about how simple this is)
(you put power in to rotate one large pulley once)
(you run a belt to rotate mini-pulleys many time)
(then you could add many mini-pulleys)
(each one rotating hundreds of times)
(multiplying your AC electricity)
(YOU MUST GAIN FREE ENERGY)

LOGICAL REASONING
It takes little energy to turn a one foot circumference pulley,
which can be used to drive a belt that turns a mini pulley
of one inch circumference many times
This 12X you gain your AC energy from the many times the small pulley rotates,
or even more from the many generators on mini-pulleys you add (no torque)
you can twelve times the AC electricity with every extra generator attached
12X + 12X each starts to add up very quickly
all of these generators run almost free of any torque

come on guys + gals, this is so simple that it just has to work
you only put the small amount of energy to rotate a big pulley once
and you use pulleys to multiply your rotations many times
you could have ten mini-pulleys rotating hundreds of times
you simply must gain electricity
the torque is your only problem
and that would be minimal
if you only had a 12 inch circumference pulley
then you have 3 mini-pulleys
rotating 36 times for each one rotation of your large input pulley
YOU JUST HAVE TO MULTIPLY YOUR ELECTRICITY

[Robert49]

Hi people.
This guy has absolutely no idea how magnetics work
If it were that simple, it would have been done by the cave men.
Maybe he should start a new thread.

Have a nice day Preacher.

[gyula]

Hi Robert,

The .0025 inch air gap for your new rotor is very, very good, hopefully a mechanically very stabil and robust structure accompanies it. When you found the higher rpm with a bit more torque vs the previous air gap size, did you notice any change in the input power? Just curious, I assume you had an ampermeter in series with the supply but if you did not, no problem.
Hopefully the torque tests you are going to do will reveal results you expect from the setup.

Gyula

PS This guy (that_prophet) litters most of the known forums with his long posts on his "brainchild", appearing out of nowhere in any thread. He has been active with making such posts for some years now. Such is his life...

[Robert49]

Hi Robert,

The .0025 inch air gap for your new rotor is very, very good, hopefully a mechanically very stabil and robust structure accompanies it. When you found the higher rpm with a bit more torque vs the previous air gap size, did you notice any change in the input power? Just curious, I assume you had an ampermeter in series with the supply but if you did not, no problem.
Hopefully the torque tests you are going to do will reveal results you expect from the setup.

Gyula

PS This guy (that_prophet) litters most of the known forums with his long posts on his "brainchild", appearing out of nowhere in any thread. He has been active with making such posts for some years now. Such is his life...

Hi Gyula.

This motor is a very sturdy one with a 1.175 inch diameter shaft .It takes about the same power to run it. I ran it at 200 volts and about
1 amp and it turned at 9000rpm .
The bearings are noisy and they need to be changed. When Iput a load on the shaft the amperage barely changes.

Cheers

Robert

[Infinion]

Why Shave Rotor Iron Core to a Cross Bar Shape?

Greetings to all! I decided to register and post as I did not see any question specific to my own in this thread and had to ask (for my own sake and for adding to this great repository on the energetic forums).

With regard to the Series 1 DC motor, its modification involved removing the rotor windings as they were unused deadweight on the rotor, and shaving the iron core to a shape resembling that of an iron bar.

I understand that maximizing cross-sectional area of a permeable metal is key for core design, but I didn't understand why the Series 1 had several of its armature core's pole pieces shaved away. Was it for the sake of demonstration, to show the operation of a rotary attraction motor with a simple and intuitive core geometry, or was there another consideration favoring its removal in the design?

for more context:
A standard armature core will look like the one in the image below, with laminated stacks of subdivided soft iron or steel sheets to minimize eddy current and hysteresis losses:



the Series 1 armature core was modified to be shaped closer to a cross bar, essentially having 4 subdivided rotor core pole pieces per stator pole:

[SkyWatcher]

Hi infinion, the standard core you show are too closely spaced together.
The stator pole would be pulling on each armature pole and preventing rotation.
It looks like removing every other armature pole would work fine, for a total of 5 armature poles.
I have built my own crude attraction motor in the past and have seen how it functions.
I have a motor here from a home furnace blower, that i will open up and see if it can be used for an attraction motor.
peace love light

[Robert49]

Hi friends.

Just a test I had to do. I added magnets on the rotor, 0.125 inch thick, magnetized through the 0.125 inch.
I use coils 1-2-4-5-7-8 as drive coils and 3-6-9 as generator coils.
If I short the coils, the speed and the input power remain the same and if I drive a dc motor with it, same thing.
If I light a bulb with it, the amps go up slightly and the rpm goes down.

This setup was just to see the effect of a "sideways" magnetic field in a generator design.

Robert

[Robert49]

Small update!

Special thanks to Peter Lindemann for his help.

Peter said that a bar shaped rotor creates a lot of drag so I had it modified and while at it, had slots made and inserted magnets in there.
They are 0.125in x 0.250in x 1in , magnetized through 0.125, three per slot.
The stator poles are at 10 degrees and the magnets at 12 degrees.I also modified the drive circuit to capture the pulses.

This setup gave five charging cycles per power pulse, or 90 charge cycles per rotation: too much!! The drag is awfull.

I will try with fewer magnets later on but for now , I removed all of them.
When the rotor was bar shaped, maximum speed was 6500 rpm. With the modified rotor (without magnets) , maximum speed reached 9800 rpm.

Thanks and good luck to everyone.

Robert

[Robert49]

Another crazy idea

Hi guys

This is something I made about five years ago which is worth sharing for it's weirdness.
This motor has no core, just windings and magnets and the magnets act as core and rotor. It is running in repulsion mode but can be used in attraction or even in attraction-repulsion mode depending on the timing.
I had great results with it when I made it, but took it apart cause I needed the shaft, bearings and plates for another project.
I just rebuilt it but can't remember exactly how I got these results but am playing with it for now. The motor runs and generates power but it is not a self-runner. (for now)

Robert

[gyula]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for showing this interesting coil shape. Would be curious what voltage amplitude is induced in the coils when the rotor magnets are spinning (say by an outside prime mover) at an rpm identical to the normal running motor rpm?
MAybe you have not checked this, and in case it is cumbersome to do I understand it of course.
I ask this because I figure such coil shape may help minimize unwanted induction (i.e. generator effect, counter emf) from the rotor magnets while still performing fine to give useful torque to the rotor. Maybe the mass of the rotor could further be increased to have an energy storing flywheel effect from the rotor too.
One more thing: you put the (for now) words into brackets at the end of the sentence, maybe indicating there is a possibility in this setup to make it a self runner?

Thanks, Gyula

[Robert49]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for showing this interesting coil shape. Would be curious what voltage amplitude is induced in the coils when the rotor magnets are spinning (say by an outside prime mover) at an rpm identical to the normal running motor rpm?
MAybe you have not checked this, and in case it is cumbersome to do I understand it of course.
I ask this because I figure such coil shape may help minimize unwanted induction (i.e. generator effect, counter emf) from the rotor magnets while still performing fine to give useful torque to the rotor. Maybe the mass of the rotor could further be increased to have an energy storing flywheel effect from the rotor too.
One more thing: you put the (for now) words into brackets at the end of the sentence, maybe indicating there is a possibility in this setup to make it a self runner?

Thanks, Gyula

HI gyula I forgot to mention that the magnets have to be north-south south-north etc for this to work. The coils are bi-filar and all connected in series.
One winding is pulsed in opposite direction to the other.
At 1500rpm the voltage induced is 80volts peak to peak. I believe there is no counter emf on this motor.
(for now) is because when I made this motor years ago, I remember showing one of my friends the results: 100watts in 100wats out. I did not try to loop it back.

Thanks

Robert