Electric Motor Secrets

[Peter Lindemann]

One more experiment

Thanx for the reply, Peter almighty. I thought on using the two transistor's for each coil and I'll do that in my next experiment for sure. I just wanted to try all this in very little time I had.
The dots on the coils, I used them to indicate that the poles are oposite on the electromagnets because it works better like that. I also tried to put these in series and it worked also ok and it draw about 45mA but the RPM is lower in that case and the torque as well. And it was also stalled by connecting the battery.
Whatever the case is, parallel or series configuration, the motor definitly works better when I have one N pole and one S pole towards the iron like on the picture.
The most important thing for me is that the motor works, and I am always seeing the SPIKES on the scope!
Also I need to make some of the FE machines so that I can persuade my father to begin research with me, he is great physics professor but he's been a bit sceptical about all that, but I think he is on his way!
I'll post the news as my experiments continue in a few days I hope.

Thanx again and forgive me for my bad English. Respect!

Dear Kokerich,

Your motor should not stall when the charge battery is connected. So, if it works the same way with the coils in parallel or series, then that only leaves two other possibilities. The first is that the diode is bad and is not blocking in the reverse direction properly, OR you have connected the second battery backwards by mistake. Please check these things. Make sure that the negative terminal of the charge battery has a direct connection to the positive terminal of the run battery. If everything checks out, replace the diode anyway, and check it again! The cathode of the diode should face the positive terminal of the charge battery. Your schematic shows the circuit the way it should be. Just make sure that your actual circuit conforms to it.

Connecting the charge battery to this circuit properly CAN NOT stall the motor.

Peter

[hh1341]

Boat Motor

Hello All,

This is my first post.

I am interested in the possibility of applying a solenoid motor for use in an electric boat.

A horizontally opposed scotch yoke design appeals to me.

Having it push and pull on every stroke should make it equivalent to an 8 cylinder. (2 coils on each piston)

Peter, do you think 10 to 20 HP could be achieved?

Carl

[Peter Lindemann]

You Can Achieve Anything if...

Hello All,

This is my first post.

I am interested in the possibility of applying a solenoid motor for use in an electric boat.

A horizontally opposed scotch yoke design appeals to me.

Having it push and pull on every stroke should make it equivalent to an 8 cylinder. (2 coils on each piston)

Peter, do you think 10 to 20 HP could be achieved?

Carl

Dear Carl,

Welcome to the forum. Yes, a 10 to 20 HP solenoid engine with a scotch-yoke drive can be built if you have the Money, Time, Skill, and Machine Tools necessary to do it.

It's a very ambitious project, though.

Peter

[aladinlamp]

Hi Peter

Can you tell us about your own attraction motor unit, perhaps post some pictures or numbers of energy recovery and mechanical output-dynamometer test. I'm sure everybody would like to see it, if it is not a problem.

Thanx

[Peter Lindemann]

I've Told You Everything.......

Hi Peter

Can you tell us about your own attraction motor unit, perhaps post some pictures or numbers of energy recovery and mechanical output-dynamometer test. I'm sure everybody would like to see it, if it is not a problem.

Thanx

Dear Aladinlamp,

This forum has within it all of the physical designs and circuit diagrams for any qualified experimenter to build an electric motor with a COP>2. It is all right here! Jetijs and others have shown pictures of excellent machine designs. Lighty has contributed advanced switching circuits and I have shown how to recycle the power back to the front of the circuit, so power levels can be scaled up beyond where charging batteries is practical.

I do NOT plan to show anything more advanced than this. I have worked over 25 years on this technology, and I still plan to keep a few good ideas to myself, in case the world changes for the better.

Best wishes,

Peter

[Aaron]

further inspection

I have seen specific points about specifics on different circuits, etc... that have almost had some productive conversation then it suddenly drops off.

I'd HIGHLY recommend that anyone reading through this thread look at each concept point by point and thoroughly examine each with equal importance.

Like most things that are worthwhile to pursue (of course in the eyes of the beholder / totally relative to each person's perception and opinion), but there is usually more than meets the eye.

I mean, if there is a bird sitting on a post, it is a bird sitting on a post, but WHY is the bird sitting on the post! LOL I'm not saying that to taunt or poke fun at anything or anyone...just some things that we look at and we take for grant it that "oh yeah, that is what that is"...sometimes the rabbit hole could go pretty deep.

[hh1341]

More pls

Hi Aaron.

Could you enlarge on this quote of yours.

that have almost had some productive conversation then it suddenly drops off.

In other words what do you think accounts for the drop off?

Carl

[aladinlamp]

Dear Aladinlamp,

This forum has within it all of the physical designs and circuit diagrams for any qualified experimenter to build an electric motor with a COP>2. It is all right here! Jetijs and others have shown pictures of excellent machine designs. Lighty has contributed advanced switching circuits and I have shown how to recycle the power back to the front of the circuit, so power levels can be scaled up beyond where charging batteries is practical.

I do NOT plan to show anything more advanced than this. I have worked over 25 years on this technology, and I still plan to keep a few good ideas to myself, in case the world changes for the better.

Best wishes,

Peter

Hi Peter, i understand your point now.

1.just to re-check, you meant COP>2 or COP>1 in your last post ?

2.Do you agree that COP>1 can be achieved only with some minimum size of the machine, bigger should be better..


Thanx

[Aaron]

this thread

Hi Carl,

I think just human nature.

Some things that seem just too simple to have much merit or significance fall by the way side because not much value is put on them.

There are a LOT of posts in this thread and I understand it takes quite a while to work through especially when the posts are studied in depth and not skimmed through.

[hh1341]

Aaron,

Perhaps we should revisit some of these ideas and investigate further.

Would be good homework for you to assign to the members.

Carl

[hh1341]

Scotch Motor

Hi All,

Just getting started with motor ideas.

Here is a bit of the concept in 3D.

Motor2.jpg

Carl

[Peter Lindemann]

Clarification

Hi Peter, i understand your point now.

1.just to re-check, you meant COP>2 or COP>1 in your last post ?

2.Do you agree that COP>1 can be achieved only with some minimum size of the machine, bigger should be better..


Thanx

Aladinlamp,

Actually, I meant exactly what I said in my last post. There is enough information, currently in this forum, for a qualified experimenter to build an electric motor with a COP>2. This is possible in "test model" sizes of 40 watts and up. COP>1 should be able to be demonstrated in model sizes of 10 watts and up.

Remember, many Bedini SG energizers are COP>1 in model sizes as low as 5 watts.

There IS a minimum SET OF TOOLS needed for one of these projects, and there is a minimum SET OF SKILLS needed to succeed. If you are honest with yourself, you can correctly assess whether you have these necessities or not. If you don't currently possess them, then your first job is to BUY THE TOOLS and LEARN THE SKILLS needed to succeed.

Experimenters who lack the necessary tools and skills and who fail to acquire them CANNOT be helped by being given more information than currently exists in this forum.

I hope this clarifies my previous statements.

Peter

[aladinlamp]

Aladinlamp,

Actually, I meant exactly what I said in my last post. There is enough information, currently in this forum, for a qualified experimenter to build an electric motor with a COP>2. This is possible in "test model" sizes of 40 watts and up. COP>1 should be able to be demonstrated in model sizes of 10 watts and up.

Remember, many Bedini SG energizers are COP>1 in model sizes as low as 5 watts.

There IS a minimum SET OF TOOLS needed for one of these projects, and there is a minimum SET OF SKILLS needed to succeed. If you are honest with yourself, you can correctly assess whether you have these necessities or not. If you don't currently possess them, then your first job is to BUY THE TOOLS and LEARN THE SKILLS needed to succeed.

Experimenters who lack the necessary tools and skills and who fail to acquire them CANNOT be helped by being given more information than currently exists in this forum.

I hope this clarifies my previous statements.

Peter

Hi

thanx for response

I asked about COP>2 only because i have never seen such statement in this thread, i remember always talking about COP>1, but now it is crystal clear to all of us.


Regarding you statement about TOOLS, SKILLS,TIME and enough INFORMATION in this thread...i agree with every single word.

[hh1341]

Hi All,

If one was to try and make a solenoid push and pull, could it be done with one coil, or would it require 2 coils in tandem?

That is, pull it into one coil and then pull it back into the other.

Carl

[elias]

Hi All,

If one was to try and make a solenoid push and pull, could it be done with one coil, or would it require 2 coils in tandem?

That is, pull it into one coil and then pull it back into the other.

Carl

Hi,

Peter's Motor is an attraction motor which constantly attracts a piece of iron to provide mechanical energy. I suppose that you would require two solenoids, for this purpose, because we have no push here and the only force is pull. BTW I like the design, I think that this design may be promising, if engineered correctly. Anyway Just some thoughts.

Elias