Earth batteries..... first tests..

[theremart]

I have been testing various configs for my earth batteries.

Today I attepted various configs, and I was unable to get a series setup.


I wonder, do you have to isolate each set of two plates to get them set up in series? ( maybee a bucket, or flower pot ) ?

I was also wondering about the PH of the soil..... I imagine one could make acid earth batteries.

I tested also my antenna of ( 150 FT ) of wire, I did not get much voltage at all with my meter .21. The thing is I do wondering will my voltmeter show the voltage of the cold electricity, or maybe over time the polarity of the plates would increase like with a trickle charge...?

Anyhow the big plus was I found with a small plate off an electrical box and a 3 ' 1/2 inch multi stranded ( large strands) coper wire I was able to get 1.05 V from only these two connections.

I tried some 1' lengths of 1/2 copper pipe, got about .8 to .95 V from each section. But each time I tried to hook up in series it did not work, even when I hooked each section to a capacitor.

Oh well another day of exploring...

mart

[Sawt2]

isolation

I recall reading somewhere that you need to isolate each cell of an earth battery if they are in close proximity with another cell.(within 6-7 ft.) I have tried simply putting each cell inside a length of pvc pipe, leave the bottom open. you could use the cheap thin walled drain pvc.
Hope this helps

[theremart]

Isolation.

that sounds reasonable..

After watching video on youtube about water batteries, I may just try buckets of water with the rods... I was reading about the problem with earth batteries is drought if the ground gets dry they don't conduct charge as well.

I am now trying a circuit from Bedini's book for earth batteries with a neon. Was simple enough...

Thanks for the tips...

[rickoff]

Reply to Mart

Hi Mart,

Regarding your 150 ft antenna battery charger, it is practically imposible to measure the output with a multimeter. You are dealing with high voltage spikes which can't be measured instantaneously with a voltmeter, and just Pico amps of current flow. This is cold charging, and normally takes 2 to 3 days for a full charge. You can get a general idea about the voltage buildup by connecting a Ne2 neon bulb between the antenna wire and ground. Then sit in a darkened room and watch the neon light up. It should begin blinking. Next, keep adding more neons in series connection, until the neons will no longer light up. Count the number of neons that you were able to light, and multiply that number by 100, which will give you a rough estimate of the actual voltage developed.

Also, try potash around your earth rod ground, like Kevin does, with the ground rod going through a diode to the positve terminal.

Best, Rickoff

p.s. - In case you haven't already noticed, Mart, the diagram titled "200 foot Antenna Battery Charger" shows the wrong configuration for the coil connections. The wire from the spark plug should go into the high voltage center tap of the coil, not the side terminal. The connections as shown in the diagram with the diodes is the correct coil connection configuration. Do you have any further charging test results to report at this time?

[john_g]

Hi Rickoff / Mart

Can you help. I have tried a few antenna circuits for battery charging with no success. Can you give a link to one that has worked for you? I have tried the links I posted at:

http://www.energeticforum.com/energy...ng-aerial.html

I find it amazing that earth batterys were used for the early telegraph systems, do you know what the total volts/current was that they would have needed to run the telegraph systems?

[theremart]

Ones that worked..

Hi Rickoff / Mart

Can you help. I have tried a few antenna circuits for battery charging with no success. Can you give a link to one that has worked for you? I have tried the links I posted at:

http://www.energeticforum.com/energy...ng-aerial.html

I find it amazing that earth batterys were used for the early telegraph systems, do you know what the total volts/current was that they would have needed to run the telegraph systems?

The one that works, I have not made yet. I think it is because I have not isolated the wire.

There is a few videos called free energy by Tommy Lee rotarypiston.com that show this the best I have seen not using wire, but a copper pipe.

In Seph's thead about scope pics I posted a picture of what my 80Ft coax wire looks like when hooked up. Seems to be something there..

Mart

[patmac]

Yeah that works....

Look this if yours simply take a glass with water and put a wire galvanized (zinc) and other wire (copper), yours can read about 0.6 volts (in my case).

It's possible by using a copper wire 200 foot as positive and zinc rod on the earth as negative potential differential may be higher?